Hi all, I have a palm pilot that came with a lot of different apps, but they have conduits that need windows to function. I have been experimenting with getting Palm Desktop to run with Wine. It installs OK, but it doesn't run because of a bug in WinMM. I can, however, get the Hotsync service to run. But, it doesn't see my USB cradle. Has anyone tried setting this kind of thing up to get Wine to interface with the cradle using the visor driver? I thought this might work, since it emulates a serial port. But, I don't know how to map a COM port to the device. Does anyone know how to do that with Wine 20050628?
Thanks, James Liggett
Am Sonntag, 3. Juli 2005 08:19 schrieb James Liggett:
Hi all, I have a palm pilot that came with a lot of different apps, but they have conduits that need windows to function. I have been experimenting with getting Palm Desktop to run with Wine. It installs OK, but it doesn't run because of a bug in WinMM. I can, however, get the Hotsync service to run. But, it doesn't see my USB cradle. Has anyone tried setting this kind of thing up to get Wine to interface with the cradle using the visor driver? I thought this might work, since it emulates a serial port. But, I don't know how to map a COM port to the device. Does anyone know how to do that with Wine 20050628?
Hello,
yesterday (current CVS) i gave PalmDesktop_414_DE.zip a try. The installer completed (no error message) but did not install any file. I thing the problem are inside msi, but i am still searching for it.
If you may get the unicode version of the msi installer working and use , you might have some luck. I never managed it. With the ascii version of the msi installer i run into problem with missing comXXX.drv.
Some time ago i had Version 3 of the palm desktop running, but i did not remember how id did it. I had to add a hardware related registy key. Something about com ports.
I have not tried other versions of the Palm Desktop.
Bye Stefan
Hi Stefan, Thanks for the reply. I was able to get Palm Desktop to install using the CD that came with my palm (I have a Tungsten T. It comes with v. 4.1). It's odd that the one you have doesn't install anything. Did you install native Windows Installer or are you using builtin?
James
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 12:28 +0200, Stefan Leichter wrote:
Am Sonntag, 3. Juli 2005 08:19 schrieb James Liggett:
Hi all, I have a palm pilot that came with a lot of different apps, but they have conduits that need windows to function. I have been experimenting with getting Palm Desktop to run with Wine. It installs OK, but it doesn't run because of a bug in WinMM. I can, however, get the Hotsync service to run. But, it doesn't see my USB cradle. Has anyone tried setting this kind of thing up to get Wine to interface with the cradle using the visor driver? I thought this might work, since it emulates a serial port. But, I don't know how to map a COM port to the device. Does anyone know how to do that with Wine 20050628?
Hello,
yesterday (current CVS) i gave PalmDesktop_414_DE.zip a try. The installer completed (no error message) but did not install any file. I thing the problem are inside msi, but i am still searching for it.
If you may get the unicode version of the msi installer working and use , you might have some luck. I never managed it. With the ascii version of the msi installer i run into problem with missing comXXX.drv.
Some time ago i had Version 3 of the palm desktop running, but i did not remember how id did it. I had to add a hardware related registy key. Something about com ports.
I have not tried other versions of the Palm Desktop.
Bye Stefan
Am Sonntag, 3. Juli 2005 21:28 schrieb James Liggett:
Hi Stefan, Thanks for the reply. I was able to get Palm Desktop to install using the CD that came with my palm (I have a Tungsten T. It comes with v. 4.1). It's odd that the one you have doesn't install anything. Did you install native Windows Installer or are you using builtin?
Hello James,
i used builtin Windows Installer on a fresh created .wine/drive_c. The only thing i installed was ie6 because the installer complained about its missing when i tried it last.
So the interesting question now is: What software did you install before the Palm Desktop?
Bye Stefan
Your use of the builtin Windows Installer might very well be the problem. I have encountered the same problem now using the latest wine and builtin Installer. Unfortunately, the native version won't install with the new version, and WineTools, Sidenet, and all the other tools that used to do this well are useless now :(. I do some screwing around with winecfg and see what I can figure out.
James
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 23:30 +0200, Stefan Leichter wrote:
Am Sonntag, 3. Juli 2005 21:28 schrieb James Liggett:
Hi Stefan, Thanks for the reply. I was able to get Palm Desktop to install using the CD that came with my palm (I have a Tungsten T. It comes with v. 4.1). It's odd that the one you have doesn't install anything. Did you install native Windows Installer or are you using builtin?
Hello James,
i used builtin Windows Installer on a fresh created .wine/drive_c. The only thing i installed was ie6 because the installer complained about its missing when i tried it last.
So the interesting question now is: What software did you install before the Palm Desktop?
Bye Stefan
I haven't installed anything, not even IE, because that won't install (it hangs at around 80%, looking into it). But I did get Windows installer to work, and Palm Desktop installer comes up, but it complains about missing IE. So now I'm back at square one.
James
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 23:30 +0200, Stefan Leichter wrote:
Am Sonntag, 3. Juli 2005 21:28 schrieb James Liggett:
Hi Stefan, Thanks for the reply. I was able to get Palm Desktop to install using the CD that came with my palm (I have a Tungsten T. It comes with v. 4.1). It's odd that the one you have doesn't install anything. Did you install native Windows Installer or are you using builtin?
Hello James,
i used builtin Windows Installer on a fresh created .wine/drive_c. The only thing i installed was ie6 because the installer complained about its missing when i tried it last.
So the interesting question now is: What software did you install before the Palm Desktop?
Bye Stefan
Am Montag, 4. Juli 2005 21:13 schrieb James Liggett:
I haven't installed anything, not even IE, because that won't install (it hangs at around 80%, looking into it). But I did get Windows installer to work, and Palm Desktop installer comes up, but it complains about missing IE. So now I'm back at square one.
Installing ie6 is no big magic. I have an installer from a cd, _not_ an installer that load most of the stuff from the ms web server.
1. import the attached file into the registry using regedit. 2. replace the link c:\windows\system\regsvr32.exe with a copy of link target owned by the user running the setup 3. run the setup
Hope this will work for you too.
Bye Stefan
Hi Stefan, I've got good news. I got Palm Desktop to install. :) All you need to do is setup IE first, with the instructions you gave me. Then, some dirty work:
1. Install native Windows Installer manually. To do this, install dcom98 first. Then run instmsia.exe. The install will complain, but it will leave behind all the files you need in Windows\Installer\InstMsi0. Copy all the files in there to Windows\system, and set msi.dll and msiexec.exe to native.
2. Install Windows Script 5.6. You can download it from here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0a8a18f6-249c-4a72-... Keep in mind that it's the English version though. To install it, set setupapi to builtin and run the file.
3. Run Palm Desktop setup like normal, and it will install everything you need.
Of course, running palm desktop is a different story (there is a crash in WinMM that stops it from running) but I'm pretty sure we can get hotsync to work if we can figure out how to set up the serial ports.
James
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 22:24 +0200, Stefan Leichter wrote:
Am Montag, 4. Juli 2005 21:13 schrieb James Liggett:
I haven't installed anything, not even IE, because that won't install (it hangs at around 80%, looking into it). But I did get Windows installer to work, and Palm Desktop installer comes up, but it complains about missing IE. So now I'm back at square one.
Installing ie6 is no big magic. I have an installer from a cd, _not_ an installer that load most of the stuff from the ms web server.
- import the attached file into the registry using regedit.
- replace the link c:\windows\system\regsvr32.exe with a copy of link target
owned by the user running the setup 3. run the setup
Hope this will work for you too.
Bye Stefan
"James" == James Liggett jrliggett@cox.net writes:
James> I haven't installed anything, not even IE, because that won't James> install (it hangs at around 80%, looking into it). But I did get James> Windows installer to work, and Palm Desktop installer comes up, James> but it complains about missing IE. So now I'm back at square one.
Follow the sequence of download as done by "winetools" with the appropriate native dlls. I brought up ie6 that way and can run it with wine-20041019. CVS wine however loops in a "Restart IE6" loop.
Bye
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