Wiki - 3D driver issues

[Roderick Colenbrander]

Hi,

Multiple times a day you encounter people who can't get 3D working in
Wine. I'm getting so sick of these questions, that I decided to start
a new page on the Wiki.
http://wiki.winehq.org/3DDriverIssues

Feel free to add more information to it. I don't want it to give
detailed instructions on how to install drivers but more a page which
gives hints on what is wrong and which points people in the right
direction to solve the problems. In case there is a distribution
specific issue like LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH on Ubuntu, such a thing could
be described there in short.

Roderick

[Stefan Dösinger]

Am 08.03.2010 um 13:23 schrieb Roderick Colenbrander:
> Hi,
>
> Multiple times a day you encounter people who can't get 3D working in
> Wine. I'm getting so sick of these questions, that I decided to start
> a new page on the Wiki.
> http://wiki.winehq.org/3DDriverIssues
>
> Feel free to add more information to it. I don't want it to give
> detailed instructions on how to install drivers but more a page which
> gives hints on what is wrong and which points people in the right
> direction to solve the problems. In case there is a distribution
> specific issue like LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH on Ubuntu, such a thing could
> be described there in short.

Attaching a 32 bit glxinfo binary might be helpful for debugging 64 bit multilib issues.

[Roderick Colenbrander]

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Stefan Dösinger  wrote:
> Am 08.03.2010 um 13:23 schrieb Roderick Colenbrander:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Multiple times a day you encounter people who can't get 3D working in
> > Wine. I'm getting so sick of these questions, that I decided to start
> > a new page on the Wiki.
> > http://wiki.winehq.org/3DDriverIssues
> >
> > Feel free to add more information to it. I don't want it to give
> > detailed instructions on how to install drivers but more a page which
> > gives hints on what is wrong and which points people in the right
> > direction to solve the problems. In case there is a distribution
> > specific issue like LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH on Ubuntu, such a thing could
> > be described there in short.
>
> Attaching a 32 bit glxinfo binary might be helpful for debugging 64 bit multilib issues.

A few months ago I added a 'winediag' channel which tries to detect
incorrectly setup opengl drivers. It catches situations but I didn't
know that 'direct rendering=yes' can also mean software rendering.
That's a case I still need to add.

I still think it would make sense to have a 'wglinfo' in Wine.

Roderick

[James McKenzie]

Stefan Dösinger wrote:
> Am 08.03.2010 um 13:23 schrieb Roderick Colenbrander:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Multiple times a day you encounter people who can't get 3D working in
> > Wine. I'm getting so sick of these questions, that I decided to start
> > a new page on the Wiki.
> > http://wiki.winehq.org/3DDriverIssues
> >
> > Feel free to add more information to it. I don't want it to give
> > detailed instructions on how to install drivers but more a page which
> > gives hints on what is wrong and which points people in the right
> > direction to solve the problems. In case there is a distribution
> > specific issue like LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH on Ubuntu, such a thing could
> > be described there in short.
>
> Attaching a 32 bit glxinfo binary might be helpful for debugging 64 bit multilib issues.

Would this also include use Mac users???  If not, then please mark the
file for the Operating System that it is a target for.

James McKenzie

[Charles Davis]

On 3/13/10 8:23 PM, James McKenzie wrote:
> Stefan Dösinger wrote:
> > Am 08.03.2010 um 13:23 schrieb Roderick Colenbrander:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Multiple times a day you encounter people who can't get 3D working in
> > > Wine. I'm getting so sick of these questions, that I decided to start
> > > a new page on the Wiki.
> > > http://wiki.winehq.org/3DDriverIssues
> > >
> > > Feel free to add more information to it. I don't want it to give
> > > detailed instructions on how to install drivers but more a page which
> > > gives hints on what is wrong and which points people in the right
> > > direction to solve the problems. In case there is a distribution
> > > specific issue like LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH on Ubuntu, such a thing could
> > > be described there in short.
> >
> > Attaching a 32 bit glxinfo binary might be helpful for debugging 64 bit multilib issues.
>
> Would this also include use Mac users???  If not, then please mark the
> file for the Operating System that it is a target for.

It can't cover Mac users, because Mac OS has a different ABI with a
completely different object-file format (Mach-O vs ELF). If they do
attach a glxinfo binary, it would probably be for Linux.

X11 on Mac OS comes with a universal glxinfo anyway, so it's really not
necessary for Mac OS. You can forcibly run the 32-bit glxinfo on Mac OS
like so:

arch -i386 glxinfo

If you installed mesa from MacPorts, make sure you built it +universal.
If you installed whatever the equivalent package is from Fink, make sure
it's a universal binary by running:

file /sw/bin/glxinfo

It should say:

/sw/bin/glxinfo: Mach-O universal binary with <n> architectures

or some such.

Chip

[Roderick Colenbrander]

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:23 AM, James McKenzie
 wrote:
> Stefan Dösinger wrote:
> > Am 08.03.2010 um 13:23 schrieb Roderick Colenbrander:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Multiple times a day you encounter people who can't get 3D working in
> > > Wine. I'm getting so sick of these questions, that I decided to start
> > > a new page on the Wiki.
> > > http://wiki.winehq.org/3DDriverIssues
> > >
> > > Feel free to add more information to it. I don't want it to give
> > > detailed instructions on how to install drivers but more a page which
> > > gives hints on what is wrong and which points people in the right
> > > direction to solve the problems. In case there is a distribution
> > > specific issue like LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH on Ubuntu, such a thing could
> > > be described there in short.
> >
> > Attaching a 32 bit glxinfo binary might be helpful for debugging 64 bit multilib issues.
>
> Would this also include use Mac users???  If not, then please mark the
> file for the Operating System that it is a target for.
>
> James McKenzie

The page as it is right now makes most sense to Linux/FreeBSD/Solaris.
The situation on OSX is quite different, so I'm not sure if it belongs
there but the page could be reformatted if there is a need. I don't
know what the issues on OSX are these but I guess it is mostly related
to the X11 server.

Roderick