Hi all, I've been using the Appdb a fair bit in the last couple months, maintaining a couple apps and their bug links, and doing some quick testing of apps I'm not the appdb maintainer for. Mostly I find the appdb adequate and usable, but I've noticed a few things that bug me. Here's a quick dump of what's on my mind:
1) The top 10 platinum, gold, and silver lists on the front page is helpful but appear to be manually maintained. It'd be helpful if there was a way to use the ratings while browsing or searching the appdb.
2) The links between bugzilla and the appdb are great. I really like seeing the list of bugs for each app. But the app db's orientation towards detailed rich text info about apps makes me wonder. I often do quick testing of apps for obvious bugs (like crashes) without really getting to know the app, and I don't feel qualified to say much about the app; I just want to link a bug to it. But the app db gets upset unless I fill in all sorts of info about the app. And unless I'm willing to be the app db maintainer for an app, that info is going to quickly get out of date. So I'd like a way to create an app db entry without filling in any info about the app besides a bug number.
3) It'd be nice if, when entering bugs in bugzilla, the web interface let me enter an appdb app id somehow. Not sure how to do that nicely.
Anyway, that's what's on my mind. Tony disagrees with me about #2; he thinks once I've filed a bugzilla report for an app, I have everything I need to create a fully populated appdb entry. I can't quite put my finger on why I disagree with him.
Comments, anyone?
Thanks, Dan
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Le lundi 13 février 2006 à 21:48 -0800, Dan Kegel a écrit :
Hi all, I've been using the Appdb a fair bit in the last couple months, maintaining a couple apps and their bug links, and doing some quick testing of apps I'm not the appdb maintainer for. Mostly I find the appdb adequate and usable, but I've noticed a few things that bug me. Here's a quick dump of what's on my mind:
- The top 10 platinum, gold, and silver lists
on the front page is helpful but appear to be manually maintained. It'd be helpful
They are not. It depends on their votes.
On 2/14/06, Jonathan Ernst jonathan@ernstfamily.ch wrote:
- The top 10 platinum, gold, and silver lists
on the front page is helpful but appear to be manually maintained. It'd be helpful
They are not. It depends on their votes.
Ah, I missed that. But what I wrote still applies: It'd be helpful if there was a way to use the ratings while browsing or searching the appdb. e.g. maybe next to the count of apps in each category, one could display the count of platinum, gold, and silver apps. That way the person browsing would know which folders were worth browsing into. - Dan
-- Wine for Windows ISVs: http://kegel.com/wine/isv
- The links between bugzilla and the appdb
are great. I really like seeing the list of bugs for each app. But the app db's orientation towards detailed rich text info about apps makes me wonder. I often do quick testing of apps for obvious bugs (like crashes) without really getting to know the app, and I don't feel qualified to say much about the app; I just want to link a bug to it. But the app db gets upset unless I fill in all sorts of info about the app. And unless I'm willing to be the app db maintainer for an app, that info is going to quickly get out of date. So I'd like a way to create an app db entry without filling in any info about the app besides a bug number.
Ahh. So the issue isn't linking a new bug to an existing application in the appdb, its creating the new application entry from the bug link in the cases where there is no existing appdb entry?
Chris
On 2/14/06, Chris Morgan chmorgan@gmail.com wrote:
So I'd like a way to create an app db entry without filling in any info about the app besides a bug number.
Ahh. So the issue isn't linking a new bug to an existing application in the appdb, its creating the new application entry from the bug link in the cases where there is no existing appdb entry?
Both are issues. It'd be nice if Tony didn't have to manually slog through the new bugs to see which app they go with, and it'd be nice if people filing bugs that had no appdb entry could easily create one (or if one could be automatically created). - Dan
-- Wine for Windows ISVs: http://kegel.com/wine/isv
Am Montag, den 13.02.2006, 21:48 -0800 schrieb Dan Kegel:
I often do quick testing of apps for obvious bugs (like crashes) without really getting to know the app, and I don't feel qualified to say much about the app; I just want to link a bug to it.
I picked up your Dogfood-Challenge while waiting for the Commit of my Patches.
My Idea: Use vlc to view the wineconf-videos. I found several Issues about the Installer (fixme) and vlc (crash).
Filling AppDB with version 2.14 of NSIS (accepted today: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=4273) and vlc 0.8.4a (new app, new version: still waiting for the AppDB-Maintainers) together with the bugs for NSIS and comparing the App on wine and Windows need a lot of time.
But the app db gets upset unless I fill in all sorts of info about the app. And unless I'm willing to be the app db maintainer for an app, that info is going to quickly get out of date. So I'd like a way to create an app db entry without filling in any info about the app besides a bug number.
IMHO, the requirements will prevent some People creating a new AppDB-Entry, but the Quality of the Entries is much better with the requirements. (quickly out of date): This is correct, but when you want to improve the AppDB and you see 2 similar, but "out of date" - Apps, which would you pick up: - The Simple Version with only the Link to Bugzilla? - The comfort Version which already has many Infos?
Think about a Wine Code-Freeze with a call to Improve the Content of Bugzilla and the AppDB as main Target. The chance for an AppDB-Entry with useful Content to get an update is much higher than for the Simple Entry.
- It'd be nice if, when entering bugs
in bugzilla, the web interface let me enter an appdb app id somehow. Not sure how to do that nicely.
I Start the BUG-Description with the AppDB-Link.
Changing bugzilla is the better way.
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