I think I accidentally dropped wine-devel, I have re-added and hope it does not create any trouble.
And thanks for the explanation, but I'm not sure I fully understand how the different versions of direct3d interact within wine's implementation. I will probably figure it out in time.
Also I will try to come up with a better test that compares lighting-settings as this was fun and fine introduction to wine.
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 15:18, Stefan Dösinger stefandoesinger@gmx.atwrote:
Hi,
Did you run the test on Windows? The purpose of the tests is not do document what we think should happen, but figure out how Windows behaves, and then replicate the same behavior.
Is suspect your test fails on Windows because you're verifying that lighting is on or off in the wrong way. IDirect3DDevice2_GetRenderState(device, D3DRENDERSTATE_LIGHTING, &value) will most likely not work in this way because D3DRENDERSTATE_LIGHTING does not exist in IDirect3DDevice2. You have to set up the d3d states in a way that rendering produces a different result with lighting on vs lighting off, then read back the rendering result(there's already a get_pixel_color function for that) and verify that you get the correct color.
A basic recipie for that: With lighting off, you get the diffuse color in the vertex as final color(well, assuming that stuff like texturing, fog, etc. are off too). With lighting on it runs through the d3d lighting calculations[1]. If you disable all lights(d3d default), set the global ambient light to black(in later d3d there's a renderstate for that, in d3d2 I suspect that's part of D3DLIGHT and IDirect3DLight*), and set the emissive material property to a color != black, your emissive color will be the final color(since the ambient, diffuse and specular components of the equation are zero). By setting the vertex color and emissive material color to different colors you can tell if lighting is on or off.
Cheers, Stefan
PS: It's prefered to keep such discussions in public, ie with wine-devel CCed. I haven't CCed wine-devel yet, and I'm not sure if you dropped it or if I dropped it accidentally.
1: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en- us/library/windows/desktop/bb147178(v=vs.85).aspx
Am Mittwoch, 21. März 2012, 09:25:40 schrieb Daniel Oom:
I have poked around a bit with the source and managed to add tests that checks if lighting is disabled/enabled in device2 and device7. I also
added
SetRenderState in IDirect3DDeviceImpl_2_DrawPrimitive. The tests works
but
I have not checked what effect the change has in other circumstances.
I attached a patch in hopefully the preferred format.
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 22:04, Stefan Dösinger
stefandoesinger@gmx.atwrote:
Am Samstag, 10. März 2012, 17:22:51 schrieb Daniel Oom:
Hi,
Writing tests, or implementing the command line tools seems like something I could do. I'm kinda leaning towards the command line tools, since it would offer a chance to thoroughly learn the shading languages.
For learning purposes writing tests and fixing bugs uncovered by them will be better. The command line tools are mostly about parsing parameters and forwarding them to d3dx9 functions(*).
If you want to look a little bit in either proposal(we recommend that
in
general):
For the test stuff, take a look at IDirect3DDeviceImpl_2_DrawPrimitive in dlls/ddraw/device.c. It thunks IDirect3DDevice2::DrawPrimitive to IDirect3DDevice7::DrawPrimitive. The main difference is the VertexType parameter. It is a D3DVERTEXTYPE in the IDirect3DDevice2 method, and a DWORD with D3DFVF_* flags in Device7. Our thunk simply converts between these two, but a deeper difference a user noticed is that D3DVT_LVERTEX in Device2 disables lighting calculations, whereas the equivalent D3DFVF flag collection in Device3 and Device7 does not. Device3 and newer have D3DRENDERSTATE_LIGHTING to enable / disable lighting, but this render state does not exist in Device2.
Fixing this is fairly straightforward, just call SetRenderState(LIGHTING, ...) in the thunk, but it needs some tests to answer / show the following:
- Show that D3DVT_LVERTEX indeed disables lighting, and D3DVT_VERTEX
enables it
- Show that D3DFVF_LVERTEX does not influence lighting in Device2 and
Device7(D3DFVF_TLVERTEX disables all vertex processing in all d3d versions, this is already tested and implemented)
- Test what happens when you call SetRenderState and GetRenderState in
Device2.
- Probably others
There are numerous things like that that need testing and probably fixes. This is just one example that happens to be on my todo list. ddraw tests go to dlls/ddraw/tests/ddraw*.c. The other files should be moved to the tests/ddraw*.c files and extended to cover all ddraw versions.
For the command line tools, download an older version of the directx
sdk
that still has vsa.exe and psa.exe(I think 2007 ones were the last ones) and compare their command line parameters to d3dx9.D3DXAssembleShaderFromFile and friends.
The tests are certainly the more useful task. vsa.exe and psa.exe would mainly serve developer convenience when writing d3d8 and d3d9 tests since we wouldn't need an ancient dx sdk to assemble our own test shaders. d3d tests and fixes fix actual games.
Enjoy, Stefan
(*) Actually, that's not how native vsa/psa work. They seem to have their own copy-pasted version of the compiler and assembler, or they link statically. We should probably do it by calling d3dx9 though, especially for tools
that
mainly serve developer convenience.
Hi again, so I've been messing around with this a bit and have some questions. However I'm not able to properly set up lighting/materials, I think I want a function like SetMaterial in d3d7 to "activate" a material with some emissive color. As for now I'm only able to get D3DVT_VERTEX and D3DVT_LVERTEX to render all black.
Also is there some documentation available for early versions of directx available I can not seem to find any?
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 13:22, Daniel Oom daoo314@gmail.com wrote:
I think I accidentally dropped wine-devel, I have re-added and hope it does not create any trouble.
And thanks for the explanation, but I'm not sure I fully understand how the different versions of direct3d interact within wine's implementation. I will probably figure it out in time.
Also I will try to come up with a better test that compares lighting-settings as this was fun and fine introduction to wine.
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 15:18, Stefan Dösinger stefandoesinger@gmx.atwrote:
Hi,
Did you run the test on Windows? The purpose of the tests is not do document what we think should happen, but figure out how Windows behaves, and then replicate the same behavior.
Is suspect your test fails on Windows because you're verifying that lighting is on or off in the wrong way. IDirect3DDevice2_GetRenderState(device, D3DRENDERSTATE_LIGHTING, &value) will most likely not work in this way because D3DRENDERSTATE_LIGHTING does not exist in IDirect3DDevice2. You have to set up the d3d states in a way that rendering produces a different result with lighting on vs lighting off, then read back the rendering result(there's already a get_pixel_color function for that) and verify that you get the correct color.
A basic recipie for that: With lighting off, you get the diffuse color in the vertex as final color(well, assuming that stuff like texturing, fog, etc. are off too). With lighting on it runs through the d3d lighting calculations[1]. If you disable all lights(d3d default), set the global ambient light to black(in later d3d there's a renderstate for that, in d3d2 I suspect that's part of D3DLIGHT and IDirect3DLight*), and set the emissive material property to a color != black, your emissive color will be the final color(since the ambient, diffuse and specular components of the equation are zero). By setting the vertex color and emissive material color to different colors you can tell if lighting is on or off.
Cheers, Stefan
PS: It's prefered to keep such discussions in public, ie with wine-devel CCed. I haven't CCed wine-devel yet, and I'm not sure if you dropped it or if I dropped it accidentally.
1: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en- us/library/windows/desktop/bb147178(v=vs.85).aspx
Am Mittwoch, 21. März 2012, 09:25:40 schrieb Daniel Oom:
I have poked around a bit with the source and managed to add tests that checks if lighting is disabled/enabled in device2 and device7. I also
added
SetRenderState in IDirect3DDeviceImpl_2_DrawPrimitive. The tests works
but
I have not checked what effect the change has in other circumstances.
I attached a patch in hopefully the preferred format.
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 22:04, Stefan Dösinger
stefandoesinger@gmx.atwrote:
Am Samstag, 10. März 2012, 17:22:51 schrieb Daniel Oom:
Hi,
Writing tests, or implementing the command line tools seems like something I could do. I'm kinda leaning towards the command line tools, since it would offer a chance to thoroughly learn the shading languages.
For learning purposes writing tests and fixing bugs uncovered by them will be better. The command line tools are mostly about parsing parameters and forwarding them to d3dx9 functions(*).
If you want to look a little bit in either proposal(we recommend that
in
general):
For the test stuff, take a look at IDirect3DDeviceImpl_2_DrawPrimitive in dlls/ddraw/device.c. It thunks IDirect3DDevice2::DrawPrimitive to IDirect3DDevice7::DrawPrimitive. The main difference is the VertexType parameter. It is a D3DVERTEXTYPE in the IDirect3DDevice2 method, and a DWORD with D3DFVF_* flags in Device7. Our thunk simply converts between
these
two, but a deeper difference a user noticed is that D3DVT_LVERTEX in
Device2
disables lighting calculations, whereas the equivalent D3DFVF flag collection in Device3 and Device7 does not. Device3 and newer have D3DRENDERSTATE_LIGHTING to enable / disable lighting, but this render state does not exist in Device2.
Fixing this is fairly straightforward, just call SetRenderState(LIGHTING, ...) in the thunk, but it needs some tests to answer / show the following:
- Show that D3DVT_LVERTEX indeed disables lighting, and D3DVT_VERTEX
enables it
- Show that D3DFVF_LVERTEX does not influence lighting in Device2 and
Device7(D3DFVF_TLVERTEX disables all vertex processing in all d3d versions, this is already tested and implemented)
- Test what happens when you call SetRenderState and GetRenderState in
Device2.
- Probably others
There are numerous things like that that need testing and probably fixes. This is just one example that happens to be on my todo list. ddraw tests go to dlls/ddraw/tests/ddraw*.c. The other files should be moved to the tests/ddraw*.c files and extended to cover all ddraw versions.
For the command line tools, download an older version of the directx
sdk
that still has vsa.exe and psa.exe(I think 2007 ones were the last ones)
and
compare their command line parameters to d3dx9.D3DXAssembleShaderFromFile and friends.
The tests are certainly the more useful task. vsa.exe and psa.exe
would
mainly serve developer convenience when writing d3d8 and d3d9 tests since we wouldn't need an ancient dx sdk to assemble our own test shaders. d3d tests and fixes fix actual games.
Enjoy, Stefan
(*) Actually, that's not how native vsa/psa work. They seem to have their own copy-pasted version of the compiler and assembler, or they link statically. We should probably do it by calling d3dx9 though, especially for tools
that
mainly serve developer convenience.
On 25 March 2012 15:36, Daniel Oom daoo314@gmail.com wrote:
Hi again, so I've been messing around with this a bit and have some questions. However I'm not able to properly set up lighting/materials, I think I want a function like SetMaterial in d3d7 to "activate" a material with some emissive color.
You're probably looking for IDirect3DDevice2::SetLightState() with D3DLIGHTSTATE_MATERIAL.
Also is there some documentation available for early versions of directx available I can not seem to find any?
You pretty much need need the DirectX SDKs for those early ddraw versions. They may still be archived somewhere, but yes, this is somewhat of a problem when working on ddraw. In some cases the existing ddraw code is also a good reference for how things roughly work, but especially the early versions are probably not quite correct.