Re: Debian packages of Wine

[Paul Bryan Roberts]

Maurilio is doing a great job providing Lenny packages for Wine.

The site at http://wine.x.pl has been providing Wine packages for Etch for some time.  x86 only I'm afraid.  The site's author is very modest but I believe it's a chap named James Huk who used to send messages to the wine-user mailing list letting people know he'd put up a new package.

James claimed his packages work under Lenny as well as Etch and I have used them this way before Maurilio started putting up packages built specifically for Lenny.  Is there really that much difference ?

I'm puzzled by the sizes of the packages.  Packages for Debian by Maurilio and James are 13-14 Mb to download whereas Ubuntu packages by Scott are only 7-8 Mb. Anyone see any reason for this ?

Cheers,
PBR

Debian packages of Wine

[Bjoern Krombholz]

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Paul Bryan Roberts
 wrote:
> I'm puzzled by the sizes of the packages.  Packages for Debian by Maurilio and James are 13-14 Mb to download whereas Ubuntu packages by Scott are only 7-8 Mb. Anyone see any reason for this ?

1. Ubuntu debs are split into a base and a -dev pkg containing the includes.
2. Ubuntu debs are lzma compressed, while those for Debian are gzip'ed.

/Björn

Debian packages of Wine

[Ben Klein]

2009/1/17 Bjoern Krombholz :
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Paul Bryan Roberts
>  wrote:
> > I'm puzzled by the sizes of the packages.  Packages for Debian by Maurilio and James are 13-14 Mb to download whereas Ubuntu packages by Scott are only 7-8 Mb. Anyone see any reason for this ?
> - Ubuntu debs are split into a base and a -dev pkg containing the includes.

Aha! I thought I didn't have headers in my packages. Ideally, I'd want
to produce -dev packages separately, as the average user doesn't build
libwine packages. Maybe Scott can help with this :)
> - Ubuntu debs are lzma compressed, while those for Debian are gzip'ed.

I'd expect this wouldn't make a big difference.
> /Björn

Debian packages of Wine

[Bjoern Krombholz]

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Ben Klein  wrote:
> > - Ubuntu debs are lzma compressed, while those for Debian are gzip'ed.
>
> I'd expect this wouldn't make a big difference.

Indeed, it does:
/home/src/wine-git$ prefix=/tmp/wine-test make -e install
...
/home/src/wine-git$ cd /tmp
/tmp$ du -sh wine-test
138M    wine-test
/tmp$ time tar --gzip -cf wine.tar.gz wine-test

real    0m11.310s
user    0m11.005s
sys     0m0.312s
/tmp$ time tar --bzip2 -cf wine.tar.bz2 wine-test

real    0m29.178s
user    0m28.882s
sys     0m0.200s
/tmp$ time tar --lzma -cf wine.tar.7z wine-test

real    1m32.890s
user    1m32.530s
sys     0m0.328s
/tmp$ ls -sh wine.tar.*
26M wine.tar.7z  39M wine.tar.bz2  41M wine.tar.gz

Debian packages of Wine

[Lei Zhang]

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Bjoern Krombholz
 wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Paul Bryan Roberts
>  wrote:
> > I'm puzzled by the sizes of the packages.  Packages for Debian by Maurilio and James are 13-14 Mb to download whereas Ubuntu packages by Scott are only 7-8 Mb. Anyone see any reason for this ?
> - Ubuntu debs are split into a base and a -dev pkg containing the includes.
> - Ubuntu debs are lzma compressed, while those for Debian are gzip'ed.
>
> /Björn

Curious, what versions of Debian / Ubuntu supports lzma compressed
.deb packages?

Debian packages of Wine

[Scott Ritchie]

Lei Zhang wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Bjoern Krombholz
>  wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Paul Bryan Roberts
> >  wrote:
> > > I'm puzzled by the sizes of the packages.  Packages for Debian by Maurilio and James are 13-14 Mb to download whereas Ubuntu packages by Scott are only 7-8 Mb. Anyone see any reason for this ?
> > - Ubuntu debs are split into a base and a -dev pkg containing the includes.
> > - Ubuntu debs are lzma compressed, while those for Debian are gzip'ed.
> >
> > /Björn
>
> Curious, what versions of Debian / Ubuntu supports lzma compressed
> .deb packages?

8.10 Supports it natively, 8.04 does as well however policy says that
8.04 packages must pre-depend on the newer dpkg so that upgrades from
earlier Ubuntus go well.

Using lzma compression does make a huge difference.  From the mirror's
perspective, it's about 100 gigabytes of data a month.

Thanks,
Scott Ritchie

Debian packages of Wine

[Detlef Riekenberg]

On Fr, 2009-01-16 at 07:11 +0000, Paul Bryan Roberts wrote:
> I'm puzzled by the sizes of the packages.
> Packages for Debian by Maurilio and James are 13-14 Mb to download
> whereas Ubuntu packages by Scott are only 7-8 Mb. Anyone see any reason for this ?

deb support different compression types: gz, bzip and lzma
You can use "ar -x name.deb" to get the content.
Scott has a seperate devel package and is using lzma for the data.
unpacked: 55850kB wine + 13960KB wine-dev

The other package is using gz.
unpacked: 69180KB wine with wine-dev