Shuttleworth on Wine

[nn]

Shuttleworth on Wine
http://www.osnews.com/story/21438/Shuttleworth_on_Wine

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[Ben Klein]

2009/5/6 nn :
> Shuttleworth on Wine
> http://www.osnews.com/story/21438/Shuttleworth_on_Wine
> From that page:
> While Wine might play a role in some user's lives, I must admit that I
> personally never felt compelled to use it. Linux has its own set of
> applications that work just fine, with lots of choices and different
> approaches to the same task.

This is someone who has never used Wine, but feels compelled to comment on how
it's slow and unstable. Wonderfully uninteresting.

The article he's discussing is more interesting, and much more on-topic for
Shuttleworth's comments.

http://ostatic.com/blog/open-free-functional-and-wrapped-in-a-strong-sense-o...
(Stupidly long URLs are fantastic)

Basically, what Shuttleworth is saying is that running Windows apps (whether
via Wine or via porting) is unimportant to Ubuntu (or the opensource world in
general), but that developing solid, unixy-but-friendly alternatives is
essential.
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Eeew, yet another reason to hate Yahoo! mail service.

[Remco]

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Ben Klein  wrote:
> Basically, what Shuttleworth is saying is that running Windows apps (whether
> via Wine or via porting) is unimportant to Ubuntu (or the opensource world in
> general)

He uses the word important, not unimportant. But he also says that the
interviewer missed the third aspect that is important: good free
software itself.

Remco

[Ben Klein]

2009/5/6 Remco :
> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:22 AM, Ben Klein  wrote:
> > Basically, what Shuttleworth is saying is that running Windows apps (whether
> > via Wine or via porting) is unimportant to Ubuntu (or the opensource world in
> > general)
>
> He uses the word important, not unimportant. But he also says that the
> interviewer missed the third aspect that is important: good free
> software itself.

Reading between the lines here. "They're both important, but what's
REALLY important is ..."

He can't really shout the interviewer down and say "you're missing the
point entirely" directly. That's bad PR. :)

[Scott Ritchie]

nn wrote:
> Shuttleworth on Wine
> http://www.osnews.com/story/21438/Shuttleworth_on_Wine
>   Yahoo!7 recommends that you update your browser to the new Internet Explorer 8.Get it now.

The reason stuff like this makes the news is because everyone wants to 
know about Wine in Ubuntu.  The past two talks I've given on Wine at 
Ubuntu Open Week were similarly plastered with questions, even though 
this time I didn't speak directly after Mark.

The reason everyone wants to know about Wine in Ubuntu is because it 
feels like a big thing.  Ubuntu wants to attract Windows users to a free 
software platform, Wine helps them switch.  The partnership is obvious, 
and Ubuntu doesn't even have to do that much - just include some of the 
integration projects I'm cobbling together.

I've said it before, but I mean it this time - I predict big things for 
the next release, especially if we can get Wine 1.2 in there.  Now, 
someone please finish one of Alexandre's release goals in the next 5 
months so this can happen ;)

Thanks,
Scott Ritchie