AW: 0.9.17 and other issues

[Roland Kaeser]

!-- DIV {margin:0px;}-->>If you want to get more business applications working in wine, you are
> welcome to contribute to that yourself. Submit patches, or donate
> money or software to developers. Write letters to businesses
> registering your interest in having their applications run in wine or
> Linux. Help do quality assurance; find and report bugs for these
> applications, and write tests for wine to run. There are many things
> you can do to help. The other developers are already helping with what
> they do best.

I'll do my best in supporting wine. I'm application maintainer of Corel Draw 9 and Railroad Tycoon (I know also a game). But I'm not a C Programmer and I can do this just small part time. But I try  everything to get the people to linux and tell them that wine can run teir business apps on it but when they give me the apps (they need to run Linux) and I'm gonna test it, I regurlary get serious errors on that apps in case of very old bugs. For sample: most of the people in the office depend on MS Office 2003 and some other small apps. I also cannot understand this in case of the much better openoffice. But they wan't their licensed office. But currently its not installable in case of very old (and well documented) bugs in MSI.  Or the other ones from Corel Draw: Printing is currently impossible in case of wrong  processing of the generated print data in wine. Its also a very old bug. The same with copy/paste (ole32) or PDF export (msvcrt) in Corel Draw.  There are a lot of
 other old issues which primarily prevents 90% of the required apps to run. If the developers whould start a work to clean up all the old bugs whould enable thousands of apps to work on  wine. I think its not that hard work (for Your experienced programmers) but it should be done.

Roland
> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----
> Von: n0dalus 
> An: Roland Kaeser 
> CC: [e-mail]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, den 11. Juli 2006, 12:49:26 Uhr
> Betreff: Re: 0.9.17 and other issues
> On 7/11/06, Roland Kaeser  wrote:
> > By all respect of all the hard work the developers make all day. But to see
> > the changes in 0.9.17 makes me really angry. Is everybody developing for the
> > gamers?  Whats the focus of the wine development? Currently I have many
> > bugzilla bugs open to be fixed to get business applications running. And I
> > can see while testing my 10 application with every release that  nothing had
> > changed on the business apps.  All of them are the same unstable, or
> > installable or some bugs else (see printing issues etc). I know thats cool
> > developing gaming features but THAT CANNOT BE THE GOAL!!!!!  In the offices
> > I support  as admin/sys engineer, we are all waiting for wine becomes stable
> > enough to get the business apps running to switch to linux completely. But
> > all I can see is that all the bugs are already there from release to
> > release! But on every release I read some things about DirectX, Gaming
> > Support etc. Whould it not be better just to fix the existing bugs before
> > developping new ones? All the people I know WANT TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS APPS
> > ON LINUX. Nobody wants run games. So my question again: WHATS THE FOCUS OF
> > THE WINE DEVELOPMENT????
>
> Don't be angry because  volunteer developers are doing what interests
> them. You'll find that the paid wine (codeweavers) developers do a lot
> of work to get business applications working under wine, while the
> volunteer developers do whatever interests them at the time (often
> games). These people have great skills to contribute to wine, even if
> it's in an area you think should not be a goal.
>
> n0dalus.