Re: Release plans

[James Mckenzie]

Austin English  wrote:
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:47 AM,   wrote:
> > > > And I didn't write trivial Mac patches either, e.g. to have
> > > > wineprefixcreate symlink c:\users\xyz\ Desktop + Videos + Documents +
> > > > Music to /Users/xyz/Desktop/ etc.  This happens on Linux, not on MacOS.
> > > > That's another (example of a) missing element.
> > > > (Why didn't I write it? Because I was unsure where to put the #ifdef)
> > >
> > > Isn't that linking done relative to $HOME, which should resolve to
> > > /Users/xyz on Mac?
> >
> > That's not the problem. What I also don't know is whether I could hardcode
> > the directories ~/Documents etc. (these already exist in my /Users/xyz,
> > (but what about Tiger?)), or whether I ought to call some OSX API that
> > yields the name of the dir (and possibly creates it if it does not yet exist).
> > I'm not familiar at all with Mac APIs, but it sounds like an easy patch
> > for somebody with a little MacOS programming knowledge.
>
> I haven't used Tiger in ages, but at least for me on Snow Leopard, I
> can't delete those directories, since OSX considers them 'essential to
> OS function'. The likelihood of them missing is small, IMHO.

Correct. However, you are free to create new directories for these functions and use them, except the Desktop.  The location of these files could be changed but that is mostly beyond most Mac Users.

Defaulting to $HOME/Desktop and $HOME/Documents is a good first step.

James McKenzie

Release plans

Hi,

James Mckenzie wrote:
> Defaulting to $HOME/Desktop and $HOME/Documents is a good first step.

There are more directories: Music, Videos(Movies?), Pictures that IMHO such a
patch should add at the same time since that's what MS knows about as well.

Austin English  wrote:
> I haven't used Tiger in ages, but at least for me on Snow Leopard, I
> can't delete those directories, since OSX considers them 'essential to
> OS function'. The likelihood of them missing is small, IMHO.

Likelihood is not my friend.  ls -le (or was it ls -l@?) will show the
security attributes. You'll see that some of the directories have an ACL
that prevents them from deletion despite the UNIX chmod flags that ls -l shows.

What puzzled me is that in an extra login account I created on my Mac,
not all of these directories were initially created. Furthermore,
some of these dirs in /Users/admin/ did not have the extra access
control protection against deletion, while other dirs of same name
in another login had them! (I then added the ACL manually, with chmod IIRC).
That's why I conjecture the existence of a "create on demand" Mac
OS API, that possibly not everybody uses.

mkdir("Videos"); is enough on Linux, but perhaps there's a more
 "OS-integrated" way in MacOS?

Regards,
 Jörg Höhle

Release plans

[James McKenzie]

[e-mail] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> James Mckenzie wrote:
> > Defaulting to $HOME/Desktop and $HOME/Documents is a good first step.
>
> There are more directories: Music, Videos(Movies?), Pictures that IMHO such a
> patch should add at the same time since that's what MS knows about as well.
>
> Austin English  wrote:
> > I haven't used Tiger in ages, but at least for me on Snow Leopard, I
> > can't delete those directories, since OSX considers them 'essential to
> > OS function'. The likelihood of them missing is small, IMHO.
>
> Likelihood is not my friend.  ls -le (or was it ls -l@?) will show the
> security attributes. You'll see that some of the directories have an ACL
> that prevents them from deletion despite the UNIX chmod flags that ls -l shows.

Either will work for this.

The Desktop folder has a + at the end of the directory for the current 
user...

I agree that the additional folders have to be created, the question is 
WHERE?  $HOME or somewhere else like .wine/drive_c/?

James McKenzie

Release plans

[Austin English]

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:46 PM, James McKenzie
 wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > James Mckenzie wrote:
> > > Defaulting to $HOME/Desktop and $HOME/Documents is a good first step.
> >
> > There are more directories: Music, Videos(Movies?), Pictures that IMHO
> > such a
> > patch should add at the same time since that's what MS knows about as
> > well.
> >
> > Austin English  wrote:
> > > I haven't used Tiger in ages, but at least for me on Snow Leopard, I
> > > can't delete those directories, since OSX considers them 'essential to
> > > OS function'. The likelihood of them missing is small, IMHO.
> >
> > Likelihood is not my friend.  ls -le (or was it ls -l@?) will show the
> > security attributes. You'll see that some of the directories have an ACL
> > that prevents them from deletion despite the UNIX chmod flags that ls -l
> > shows.
>
> Either will work for this.
>
> The Desktop folder has a + at the end of the directory for the current
> user...
>
> I agree that the additional folders have to be created, the question is
> WHERE?  $HOME or somewhere else like .wine/drive_c/?

The code you're looking for is in shell32/shellpath.c:
http://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git/?a=blob;f=dlls/shell32/shellpath.c;hb=...

feel free to send a patch. I haven't gotten my mac mini fixed up for
wine yet, it'll be a while before I have time to do so.