wine ui control hacker?

[Shaya Potter]

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I was wondering if there was any wine hacker out there who was somewhat
of a usenet binary user (for me its my version of tivo, don't have time
to watch all the shows I want and vcd quality sucks, so the caps that
are posted are useful).  Well, the program I really depend on for this
is newsbin pro (http://www.newsbin.com) it somewhat works in wine, but
many of the ui controls just dont work right, which makes it very
difficult to use.

I've spoken with the author of the program, and he's interested in
seeing the program work well under wine, so would be willing to throw in
a license key to a wine developer who could get it working well under
wine.  The author doesn't want to be inundated with many "I can do it",
so he asked me to vet people interested in working on it.  you can get a
trial version from the url I gave above so you can get an idea of what
has to be done to get the program to work well.

anyone interested?

thanks

[Rein Klazes]

FOn 08 Aug 2002 22:08:41 -0400, you wrote:
> [please cc: me as not subscribed to list]
>
> I was wondering if there was any wine hacker out there who was somewhat
> of a usenet binary user (for me its my version of tivo, don't have time
> to watch all the shows I want and vcd quality sucks, so the caps that
> are posted are useful).  Well, the program I really depend on for this
> is newsbin pro (http://www.newsbin.com) it somewhat works in wine, but
> many of the ui controls just dont work right, which makes it very
> difficult to use.
>
> I've spoken with the author of the program, and he's interested in
> seeing the program work well under wine, so would be willing to throw in
> a license key to a wine developer who could get it working well under
> wine.  The author doesn't want to be inundated with many "I can do it",
> so he asked me to vet people interested in working on it.  you can get a
> trial version from the url I gave above so you can get an idea of what
> has to be done to get the program to work well.
>
> anyone interested?

I find it is quite useable, provided you use some native Windows
dll's. I /think/ only the common control's are essential.

One major problem with builtin common control is that performance
drops to unacceptable levels when the listsviews get very long.

Rein. 
(properly licensed)

[Shaya Potter]

woops, I guess I didn't reply to all on all those emails back and forth
with Rein.

but for those who are intersted.

it seems if one has the comctl32.dll and comdlg32.dll listed as native
for newsbin, it will work pretty well, except for one big thing.  It
seems the main window disappears if you try to view the preference/otion
window.  The app works fine if you use the builtin version of those
dll's instead, so I got around it, by setting the options I want up
front, and then switching to the native dll's for real usage.  if anyone
has any other reccomendations for figuring out what happened, I'd be
interested in hearing about it

shaya

On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 12:19, Rein Klazes wrote:
> FOn 08 Aug 2002 22:08:41 -0400, you wrote:
> > [please cc: me as not subscribed to list]
> >
> > I was wondering if there was any wine hacker out there who was somewhat
> > of a usenet binary user (for me its my version of tivo, don't have time
> > to watch all the shows I want and vcd quality sucks, so the caps that
> > are posted are useful).  Well, the program I really depend on for this
> > is newsbin pro (http://www.newsbin.com) it somewhat works in wine, but
> > many of the ui controls just dont work right, which makes it very
> > difficult to use.
> >
> > I've spoken with the author of the program, and he's interested in
> > seeing the program work well under wine, so would be willing to throw in
> > a license key to a wine developer who could get it working well under
> > wine.  The author doesn't want to be inundated with many "I can do it",
> > so he asked me to vet people interested in working on it.  you can get a
> > trial version from the url I gave above so you can get an idea of what
> > has to be done to get the program to work well.
> >
> > anyone interested?
>
> I find it is quite useable, provided you use some native Windows
> dll's. I /think/ only the common control's are essential.
>
> One major problem with builtin common control is that performance
> drops to unacceptable levels when the listsviews get very long.
>
> Rein. 
> (properly licensed)
> -- 
> Rein Klazes
> [e-mail]

[Tony Lambregts]

Shaya Potter wrote:
> woops, I guess I didn't reply to all on all those emails back and forth
> with Rein.
>
> but for those who are intersted.
>
> it seems if one has the comctl32.dll and comdlg32.dll listed as native
> for newsbin, it will work pretty well, except for one big thing.  It
> seems the main window disappears if you try to view the preference/otion
> window.  The app works fine if you use the builtin version of those
> dll's instead, so I got around it, by setting the options I want up
> front, and then switching to the native dll's for real usage.  if anyone
> has any other reccomendations for figuring out what happened, I'd be
> interested in hearing about it

Although using native dlls is a solution it would be better if the built 
in ones were fixed.  Good solid bug reports in bugzilla are the best way 
to get these bugs fixed.  Please file as many bug reports as nessarry 
to  document the difference in bahaviour using native vs built in . Also 
it is very easy to use CVS to keep up to date with Wine (to see if thing 
are fixed) if you are not already doing so.

http://bugs.winehq.org

Tony Lambregts

[Rein Klazes]

On 09 Aug 2002 16:55:57 -0400, you wrote:
> woops, I guess I didn't reply to all on all those emails back and forth
> with Rein.
>
> but for those who are intersted.
>
> it seems if one has the comctl32.dll and comdlg32.dll listed as native
> for newsbin, it will work pretty well, except for one big thing.  It
> seems the main window disappears if you try to view the preference/otion
> window.  The app works fine if you use the builtin version of those
> dll's instead, so I got around it, by setting the options I want up
> front, and then switching to the native dll's for real usage.  if anyone
> has any other reccomendations for figuring out what happened, I'd be
> interested in hearing about it
>
> shaya

Aha, I see. Newsbin calls an unimplemented function in shlwapi. Using
native shlwapi fixes that (read: works around the problem).

Question to everybody: where can I get more information on shlwapi
functions like those with ordinals "42" and "430" ?

Rein.