winehq packages for Debian

[Ben Klein]

Hi guys,

I'm a regular volunteer in the #winehq IRC channel (man_in_shack). Some of
you may know me :) I also maintain a few applications on AppDB and have had
a couple of bugs found and fixed via bugzilla posts.

I've been building Wine packages for my Debian systems for a while and now
I've written myself some helper scripts to make the task trivial :) I build
both amd64 and i386 packages.

I'd like to request that I take over Scott Ritchie's position as maintainer
for the winehq Debian packages as he seems to have all but abandoned Debian
package building. I have the following caveats:
1) I don't have a suitable place to upload the packages (in terms of
bandwidth restrictions)
2) At the moment, I'm not sure if the packages are suitable for an apt
repository, as I don't have proper Changelogs or source packages. I'm not
entirely sure what I'd need to do for this, so help would be appreciated
3) I'm fully set up to produce etch packages (Scott's packages aren't
etch-compatible any more) as well as packages for lenny and sid
4) I'm not asking to take over Ubuntu package building (Scott seems to be
good at this, and I don't have nor want an Ubuntu system)
5) I can be *very* quick to produce packages, as in the day after release
(or even building packages from non-release revisions in git if required)

Involvement in wine is fun!

Regards,

Ben Klein

[Andrew Fenn]

So your plan is to take over Debian packaging while abandoning Ubuntu
packaging?

You already mentioned he has abandoned packaging (however I see new
packages created on 8th November) Is there some technical reason you
can't do Ubuntu Debs?

I am trying to understand what is different from Ubuntu and Debian
which would prevent you making a package for both.

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Ben Klein  wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm a regular volunteer in the #winehq IRC channel (man_in_shack). Some of
> you may know me :) I also maintain a few applications on AppDB and have had
> a couple of bugs found and fixed via bugzilla posts.
>
> I've been building Wine packages for my Debian systems for a while and now
> I've written myself some helper scripts to make the task trivial :) I build
> both amd64 and i386 packages.
>
> I'd like to request that I take over Scott Ritchie's position as maintainer
> for the winehq Debian packages as he seems to have all but abandoned Debian
> package building. I have the following caveats:
> - I don't have a suitable place to upload the packages (in terms of
>
> bandwidth restrictions)
> 2) At the moment, I'm not sure if the packages are suitable for an apt
> repository, as I don't have proper Changelogs or source packages. I'm not
> entirely sure what I'd need to do for this, so help would be appreciated
> 3) I'm fully set up to produce etch packages (Scott's packages aren't
> etch-compatible any more) as well as packages for lenny and sid
> 4) I'm not asking to take over Ubuntu package building (Scott seems to be
> good at this, and I don't have nor want an Ubuntu system)
> 5) I can be *very* quick to produce packages, as in the day after release
> (or even building packages from non-release revisions in git if required)
>
> Involvement in wine is fun!
>
> Regards,
>
> Ben Klein

[Scott Ritchie]

Ubuntu packages have been up to date (uploaded within a day of release).

Debian keeps falling behind because there's no easy way for me to build
and test on Debian (with Ubuntu I can just upload them to launchpad and
have it work).

Thanks,
Scott Ritchie

Andrew Fenn wrote:
> So your plan is to take over Debian packaging while abandoning Ubuntu
> packaging?
>
> You already mentioned he has abandoned packaging (however I see new
> packages created on 8th November) Is there some technical reason you
> can't do Ubuntu Debs?
>
> I am trying to understand what is different from Ubuntu and Debian
> which would prevent you making a package for both.
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Ben Klein  wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I'm a regular volunteer in the #winehq IRC channel (man_in_shack). Some of
> > you may know me :) I also maintain a few applications on AppDB and have had
> > a couple of bugs found and fixed via bugzilla posts.
> >
> > I've been building Wine packages for my Debian systems for a while and now
> > I've written myself some helper scripts to make the task trivial :) I build
> > both amd64 and i386 packages.
> >
> > I'd like to request that I take over Scott Ritchie's position as maintainer
> > for the winehq Debian packages as he seems to have all but abandoned Debian
> > package building. I have the following caveats:
> > - I don't have a suitable place to upload the packages (in terms of
> >
> > bandwidth restrictions)
> > 2) At the moment, I'm not sure if the packages are suitable for an apt
> > repository, as I don't have proper Changelogs or source packages. I'm not
> > entirely sure what I'd need to do for this, so help would be appreciated
> > 3) I'm fully set up to produce etch packages (Scott's packages aren't
> > etch-compatible any more) as well as packages for lenny and sid
> > 4) I'm not asking to take over Ubuntu package building (Scott seems to be
> > good at this, and I don't have nor want an Ubuntu system)
> > 5) I can be *very* quick to produce packages, as in the day after release
> > (or even building packages from non-release revisions in git if required)
> >
> > Involvement in wine is fun!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ben Klein

[Ben Klein]

Thanks guys :)

If there's still any doubt, Ubuntu packaging as as different from Debian as
Mandriva or SUSE are from Red Hat. It's theoretically possible to produce
packages that work for both but it's a pain to maintain.

Scott can keep doing Ubuntu packages because he's well set up for it. I will
be taking over only the Debian packaging. Don't think of it as inefficient
use of resources; think of it as distributing the load.

Yay :)

2008/11/10 Scott Ritchie
> Ubuntu packages have been up to date (uploaded within a day of release).
>
> Debian keeps falling behind because there's no easy way for me to build
> and test on Debian (with Ubuntu I can just upload them to launchpad and
> have it work).
>
> Thanks,
> Scott Ritchie
>
> Andrew Fenn wrote:
> > So your plan is to take over Debian packaging while abandoning Ubuntu
> > packaging?
> >
> > You already mentioned he has abandoned packaging (however I see new
> > packages created on 8th November) Is there some technical reason you
> > can't do Ubuntu Debs?
> >
> > I am trying to understand what is different from Ubuntu and Debian
> > which would prevent you making a package for both.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Ben Klein  wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > I'm a regular volunteer in the #winehq IRC channel (man_in_shack). Some
>
> of
> > > you may know me :) I also maintain a few applications on AppDB and have
>
> had
> > > a couple of bugs found and fixed via bugzilla posts.
> > >
> > > I've been building Wine packages for my Debian systems for a while and
>
> now
> > > I've written myself some helper scripts to make the task trivial :) I
>
> build
> > > both amd64 and i386 packages.
> > >
> > > I'd like to request that I take over Scott Ritchie's position as
>
> maintainer
> > > for the winehq Debian packages as he seems to have all but abandoned
>
> Debian
> > > package building. I have the following caveats:
> > > - I don't have a suitable place to upload the packages (in terms of
> > >
> > > bandwidth restrictions)
> > > 2) At the moment, I'm not sure if the packages are suitable for an apt
> > > repository, as I don't have proper Changelogs or source packages. I'm
>
> not
> > > entirely sure what I'd need to do for this, so help would be appreciated
> > > 3) I'm fully set up to produce etch packages (Scott's packages aren't
> > > etch-compatible any more) as well as packages for lenny and sid
> > > 4) I'm not asking to take over Ubuntu package building (Scott seems to
>
> be
> > > good at this, and I don't have nor want an Ubuntu system)
> > > 5) I can be *very* quick to produce packages, as in the day after
>
> release
> > > (or even building packages from non-release revisions in git if
>
> required)
> > > Involvement in wine is fun!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Ben Klein

[Scott Ritchie]

Ben Klein wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm a regular volunteer in the #winehq IRC channel (man_in_shack). Some
> of you may know me :) I also maintain a few applications on AppDB and
> have had a couple of bugs found and fixed via bugzilla posts.
>
> I've been building Wine packages for my Debian systems for a while and
> now I've written myself some helper scripts to make the task trivial :)
> I build both amd64 and i386 packages.

You have it. I believe I've proven my incompetence with making timely
Debian releases.  Talk to me (YokoZar) on IRC.

By the way, the reason the Debian packages started disappearing was
because I kept running into problems setting up my Debian VMs.  Also my
apologies to the 10+ people who've emailed me asking where they've gone
in the past two weeks - I kept expecting to have them up the next day,
and never get around to it.
> I'd like to request that I take over Scott Ritchie's position as
> maintainer for the winehq Debian packages as he seems to have all but
> abandoned Debian package building. I have the following caveats:
> - I don't have a suitable place to upload the packages (in terms of
>
> bandwidth restrictions)

I can put them in the same place now.  The issue for me wasn't uploading
them, but getting them built properly.
> - At the moment, I'm not sure if the packages are suitable for an apt
>
> repository, as I don't have proper Changelogs or source packages. I'm
> not entirely sure what I'd need to do for this, so help would be appreciated

Apt ignores the changelog anyway (even Ubuntu users don't see the
"version differences" in update manager).  It's not hard to get it right
though, I'll mentor you.
> - I'm fully set up to produce etch packages (Scott's packages aren't
>
> etch-compatible any more) as well as packages for lenny and sid

Etch has some missing 32-bit libraries that will give you grief on
amd64, by the way.  That's one reason I sort of gave up on it.
> - I'm not asking to take over Ubuntu package building (Scott seems to
>
> be good at this, and I don't have nor want an Ubuntu system)
> 5) I can be *very* quick to produce packages, as in the day after
> release (or even building packages from non-release revisions in git if
> required)

Thanks,
Scott Ritchie