Peter wrote:
I see. Of course I have Acrobat 7 installed. The problem is Adobe does not supply the DRM plugin (Yea I know some of you do not like DRM and I have too some reservations but we should have the choice, shouldn't we?) Since the only other way to get DRM support beside wine is VMware wich is more ugly to set up.
I would like to have a working Acrobat reader with DRM support on wine since this is less trouble (and more efficent) then the VMware solution people use atm.
Maybe I can get Acrobat reader 5 with DRM support up and running. Adobe has a very confusing policy of giving away information what Version can on which Plattform. I send them a note already but i fear (like always) I am ignored. :(
cheers Peter
Am Donnerstag, den 12.05.2005, 11:46 -0400 schrieb gslink:
Use the native Linux Reader 7 from the Adobe web site. Running Reader 7 under Wine isn't worth the trouble. Acrobat Professional is a different matter. The latest Acrobat Professional that will work on Wine is 5. Both 6 and 7 require dlls that must be supplied from Windows. Seven has copy protect features that actually discourage use on any machine. With some trouble you can probably get 6 to work. It will currently install and with the addition of the missing dlls almost work. If someone wants to patch Wine so that 6 runs it would probably see considerable use.
The only difference between talking to a telephone pole and talking to Adobe is that if you drink enough the telephone pole will answer. In reality almost nothing of any importance currently runs on Wine without some setup. What you probably need to do is to experiment with replacing some of the dlls or adding some from Windows. This is usually what is necessary. You may also need to install the software in a Windows machine and then copy it over. Start trying things and something will probably work. I have been getting on the Wine people because this feature of Wine makes it useless for the average user. There needs to be some easy way for someone to report what is necessary to get a new version of something running or there needs to be a good configurator written. Wine is a very good program but the Wine group is making a classic programming error in forgetting the user interface. It doesn't make any difference how good it is if you can't get at it! In this case you can't.
In reality almost nothing of any importance currently runs on Wine without some setup.
Any such "setup" is to work around wine bugs. The proper way to go about such problems is to fix wine, not "setup" anything.
What you probably need to do is to experiment with replacing some of the dlls or adding some from Windows. This is usually what is necessary. You may also need to install the software in a Windows machine and then copy it over. Start trying things and something will probably work. I have been getting on the Wine people because this feature of Wine makes it useless for the average user. There needs to be some easy way for someone to report what is necessary to get a new version of something running or there needs to be a good configurator written.
This is beyond the point. What needs to be done is more wine development so that the wine dlls do their job so that you can run windows software w/o any special settings. Having an automatic gizmo to copy things over from a windows partition etc. is completely wasteful (if that's what you imply). If something "doesn't run" it's a wine bug, it's typically not due to a lack of configuration or any such thing. [I'm forgetting about audio/video device setup for now].
Acrobat under wine needs to be debugged and the missing/misimplemented pieces of wine have to be implemented/fixed and that's all there is to it. There is and shall not be a "configurator" in this picture. All the configuration that wine would ever need shall be provided by the packager, and that's close to a no-op typically anyway. I bet most people can live with default ~/.wine/drive_c setup.
Wine is a very good program but the Wine group is making a classic programming error in forgetting the user interface. It doesn't make any difference how good it is if you can't get at it! In this case you can't.
User interface? Pray tell, what "user interface" do you have to windows innards anyway? So far wine provides more of it than windows ever did. E.g. human readable registry files, built-in debugger (not finished but better than nothing), tracing that is useful in fixing real life windows apps under development (that's one of my main uses of wine), and so on.
Cheers, Kuba
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