Re: Autoplay considered harmful

[Remco]

Vista (and I think XP too) ask whether you want to start the Autorun program, or do a few other actions (open explorer, copy disk, etc).

Remco

----- Original Message ----
> From: Evil Jay 
> To: Steven Edwards 
> Cc: wine-devel ; Dan Kegel 
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:44:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Autoplay considered harmful
>
> The purist in me says that WINE should not improve on Windows - it
> should behave the same way, warts and all.  If I had a vote, I'd vote to
> enable it by default, but give the user an easy way to disable it in
> winecfg.  (And I'd immediately disable it the first time I ran Winecfg!)
>
> But, whatever you guys decide to do is cool - as long as you keep
> cranking out this great package!  :)
>
> -Jesse
>
> Steven Edwards wrote:
> > On Feb 16, 2008 8:58 AM, Dan Kegel  wrote:
> > >
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/15/BU47V0VOH.DTL&am...
> > > says that USB devices are being sold with infected
> > > autorun apps.  "If you plug in, you're already infected,"
> > >
> > > I'd say that's a pretty good argument for not supporting autoplay...
> >
> > I was actually thinking about this today. The right method would be to
> > use HAL notification events to prompt the user if they want to autorun
> > when sticking a new cdrom in. There could even be warning text in the
> > dialog so that if it pops up with other device insertion, the user
> > would know that it could be a virus.

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Autoplay considered harmful

[Evil Jay]

XP does not do this.  I've never used Vista, nor can I imagine why
anyone would want to.

If Vista does do this, then prompting would be proper, but only when
Wine is configured to present itself as Vista.

-J

Remco wrote:
> Vista (and I think XP too) ask whether you want to start the Autorun program, or do a few other actions (open explorer, copy disk, etc).
>
> Remco
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Evil Jay 
> > To: Steven Edwards 
> > Cc: wine-devel ; Dan Kegel 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 5:44:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: Autoplay considered harmful
> >
> > The purist in me says that WINE should not improve on Windows - it
> > should behave the same way, warts and all.  If I had a vote, I'd vote to
> > enable it by default, but give the user an easy way to disable it in
> > winecfg.  (And I'd immediately disable it the first time I ran Winecfg!)
> >
> > But, whatever you guys decide to do is cool - as long as you keep
> > cranking out this great package!  :)
> >
> > -Jesse
> >
> > Steven Edwards wrote:
> > > On Feb 16, 2008 8:58 AM, Dan Kegel  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/15/BU47V0VOH.DTL&am...
> > > > says that USB devices are being sold with infected
> > > > autorun apps.  "If you plug in, you're already infected,"
> > > >
> > > > I'd say that's a pretty good argument for not supporting autoplay...
> > >
> > > I was actually thinking about this today. The right method would be to
> > > use HAL notification events to prompt the user if they want to autorun
> > > when sticking a new cdrom in. There could even be warning text in the
> > > dialog so that if it pops up with other device insertion, the user
> > > would know that it could be a virus.
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Autoplay considered harmful

[Chris Robinson]

On Saturday 16 February 2008 10:54:47 am Remco wrote:
> Vista (and I think XP too) ask whether you want to start the Autorun
> program, or do a few other actions (open explorer, copy disk, etc).

Some desktop managers already do autoplay-like behavior. In KDE, when I put in 
a CD/DVD for the first time, it'll ask me if I want to play it (if it's a 
video dvd/audio cd), if I want to open a burning program (if it's a blank 
cd/dvd), or if I want to browse it. And whether I want it to continue asking. 
It'd be quite annoying for both Wine *and* the DM to keep trying to autorun a 
disc I put in.

Autoplay considered harmful

[Steven Edwards]

On Feb 16, 2008 2:29 PM, Chris Robinson  wrote:
> Some desktop managers already do autoplay-like behavior. In KDE, when I put in
> a CD/DVD for the first time, it'll ask me if I want to play it (if it's a
> video dvd/audio cd), if I want to open a burning program (if it's a blank
> cd/dvd), or if I want to browse it. And whether I want it to continue asking.
> It'd be quite annoying for both Wine *and* the DM to keep trying to autorun a
> disc I put in.

Ideally the freedesktop should define a spec (which they may already
do as part of HAL) that we should be able to interface with. There
should be a way to have the auto insert event detect a autorun.inf and
prompt the user if they want to open it with Wine. If no one else
wants to research it I'll try to take a look in to it sometime.

Autoplay considered harmful

[leszek]

Le samedi 16 février 2008 à 20:07 -0500, Steven Edwards a écrit :
> Ideally the freedesktop should define a spec (which they may already
> do as part of HAL) that we should be able to interface with. There
> should be a way to have the auto insert event detect a autorun.inf and
> prompt the user if they want to open it with Wine. If no one else
> wants to research it I'll try to take a look in to it sometime.

It is already implemented in gnome svn.
Have a look here: 
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453266

-Hanusz Leszek