I think Francois is right, there are only about a dozen versions of windows, if you count the various win95osr1, osr2, 98se and so on, and probably the running the tests only on the major releases of windows (8 if you count xp home and pro), so all that is needed is 8 people that run these tests and send a mail to this list when something that did work breaks.
--- "puoti@inwind.it" puoti@inwind.it wrote:
I think Francois is right, there are only about a dozen versions of windows, if you count the various win95osr1, osr2, 98se and so on, and probably the running the tests only on the major releases of windows (8 if you count xp home and pro), so all that is needed is 8 people that run these tests and send a mail to this list when something that did work breaks.
Actually there are quite a few more than 8, even not including service packs on 2000 and xp and nt..
95reg, osr1, osr2, osr2.1, osr2.5, 98, 98se, me, nt4w, nt4s, 2kpro, server, adv server, datacenter server, xp home, xp pro, and im not sure what the xp server flavors are called, but i know there are a couple of those.. plus 2k3
so without the xp server flavors and all the 2k3 flavors, we have 16.. even if we simplify to nt4, and 2k, its still a dozen like you originally said, although if you take out the osr's then it would be 8, but there are a couple of service packs and osr's and things of that nature that im sure changed some things that would affect the conformance test suite.. either way, we need to have 16 people for at least the first run (or a few people with multiple os's on their comps) to find out which service packs and which flavours of the nt based windows' actually have changed things, to where we would need to continue to run a test on those specific service packs, etc.. confused yet?
say nt4's sp3 and sp6 changed some stuff that would affect the results of the conformance tests. we would do the first run on all nt service packs (finding them all would be another story, though). then we would discover that nt4 reg, sp3, and sp6 gave different results on the tests, so we would run subsequent tests on only those 3, thereby eliminating about 7 other tests (sp1, 2, 3a, 4, 5, 6a, etc)
hope that clarifies some stuff, and helps out someone..
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Le ven 29/08/2003 à 20:13, Dustin Navea a écrit :
so without the xp server flavors and all the 2k3 flavors, we have 16.. even if we simplify to nt4, and 2k, its still a dozen like you originally said, although if you take out the osr's then it would be 8, but there are a couple of service packs and osr's and things of that nature that im sure changed some things that would affect the conformance test suite.. either way, we need to have 16 people for at least the first run (or a few people with multiple os's on their comps) to find out which service packs and which flavours of the nt based windows' actually have changed things, to where we would need to continue to run a test on those specific service packs, etc.. confused yet?
I follow. The problem with this is we'll need the 16 for longer than only the initial run, as not all API have a conformance test yet. If it's not tested, we don't know if it changed or not.
say nt4's sp3 and sp6 changed some stuff that would affect the results of the conformance tests. we would do the first run on all nt service packs (finding them all would be another story, though). then we would discover that nt4 reg, sp3, and sp6 gave different results on the tests, so we would run subsequent tests on only those 3, thereby eliminating about 7 other tests (sp1, 2, 3a, 4, 5, 6a, etc)
Overkill. Wine advertises NT4 SP6 only, not the other SPs. Same thing for each major version, only one SP match. So there's little point in conforming to something not supported by Wine, as it's been superceded. Future SPs will be tested as a "new" version, and if conformance tests fails on them, then it'll be fixing time (conformance test, plus Wine if applicable).
Vincent
--- Vincent B�ron vberon@mecano.gme.usherb.ca wrote:
Le ven 29/08/2003 � 20:13, Dustin Navea a �crit :
so without the xp server flavors and all the 2k3 flavors, we have 16..
even
if we simplify to nt4, and 2k, its still a dozen like you originally
said,
although if you take out the osr's then it would be 8, but there are a
couple
of service packs and osr's and things of that nature that im sure changed some things that would affect the conformance test suite.. either way,
we
need to have 16 people for at least the first run (or a few people with multiple os's on their comps) to find out which service packs and which flavours of the nt based windows' actually have changed things, to where
we
would need to continue to run a test on those specific service packs,
etc..
confused yet?
I follow. The problem with this is we'll need the 16 for longer than only the initial run, as not all API have a conformance test yet. If it's not tested, we don't know if it changed or not.
Good Point, I did not realize that we didnt have tests for all API's yet..
say nt4's sp3 and sp6 changed some stuff that would affect the results of
the
conformance tests. we would do the first run on all nt service packs (finding them all would be another story, though). then we would
discover
that nt4 reg, sp3, and sp6 gave different results on the tests, so we
would
run subsequent tests on only those 3, thereby eliminating about 7 other
tests
(sp1, 2, 3a, 4, 5, 6a, etc)
Overkill. Wine advertises NT4 SP6 only, not the other SPs. Same thing for each major version, only one SP match. So there's little point in conforming to something not supported by Wine, as it's been superceded. Future SPs will be tested as a "new" version, and if conformance tests fails on them, then it'll be fixing time (conformance test, plus Wine if applicable).
Oh yea, I completely forgot that it only advertises the most recent SP for each major version.. Although I am kind of curious why wine advertises SP6 and not SP6a for NT4, as there are some apps (non-MS ones, but its been so long since I have used NT that I have forgotten which ones) that require that SP6a be the version run (or in this case advertised, because of serious bugs in SP6) in order for them to even install, let alone be run..
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