meaning of "Hardware" field in bugzilla?

[Dan Kegel]

Does "mac" mean "powerpc mac only"?  I rather
thought it meant "apple macintosh", regardless
of cpu.  I ask because Austin has just gone through
and changed lots of "mac" bugs to "pc" even
though the bugs were on Intel macs, which just
seems wrong.

[Juan Lang]

> Does "mac" mean "powerpc mac only"?  I rather
> thought it meant "apple macintosh", regardless
> of cpu.  I ask because Austin has just gone through
> and changed lots of "mac" bugs to "pc" even
> though the bugs were on Intel macs, which just
> seems wrong.

I agree with you, this change seems suspect.  Austin, are you trying
to distinguish PPC bugs from x86 ones with this, or what?
--Juan

[Austin English]

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Juan Lang  wrote:
> > Does "mac" mean "powerpc mac only"?  I rather
> > thought it meant "apple macintosh", regardless
> > of cpu.  I ask because Austin has just gone through
> > and changed lots of "mac" bugs to "pc" even
> > though the bugs were on Intel macs, which just
> > seems wrong.
>
> I agree with you, this change seems suspect.  Austin, are you trying
> to distinguish PPC bugs from x86 ones with this, or what?
> --Juan

I've seen the same change made a few times in the past (I'd have to
search for it). Looking at other bugzilla's, Mozilla puts Intel Mac
bugs under PC...after all, since they've moved to x86, for all intents
and purposes, Intel Macs are PC's (especially if running Linux rather
than OS X). Those running OS X still can be identified as such by the
OS field.

Yes, my goal was to separate x86/ppc bugs.

[Scott Ritchie]

Austin English wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Juan Lang  wrote:
> > > Does "mac" mean "powerpc mac only"?  I rather
> > > thought it meant "apple macintosh", regardless
> > > of cpu.  I ask because Austin has just gone through
> > > and changed lots of "mac" bugs to "pc" even
> > > though the bugs were on Intel macs, which just
> > > seems wrong.
> >
> > I agree with you, this change seems suspect.  Austin, are you trying
> > to distinguish PPC bugs from x86 ones with this, or what?
> > --Juan
>
> I've seen the same change made a few times in the past (I'd have to
> search for it). Looking at other bugzilla's, Mozilla puts Intel Mac
> bugs under PC...after all, since they've moved to x86, for all intents
> and purposes, Intel Macs are PC's (especially if running Linux rather
> than OS X). Those running OS X still can be identified as such by the
> OS field.
>
> Yes, my goal was to separate x86/ppc bugs.

Then we should change the tab to read ppc rather than mac.

Thanks,
Scott Ritchie

[Austin English]

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Scott Ritchie  wrote:
> Austin English wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Juan Lang  wrote:
> > > > Does "mac" mean "powerpc mac only"?  I rather
> > > > thought it meant "apple macintosh", regardless
> > > > of cpu.  I ask because Austin has just gone through
> > > > and changed lots of "mac" bugs to "pc" even
> > > > though the bugs were on Intel macs, which just
> > > > seems wrong.
> > >
> > > I agree with you, this change seems suspect.  Austin, are you trying
> > > to distinguish PPC bugs from x86 ones with this, or what?
> > > --Juan
> >
> > I've seen the same change made a few times in the past (I'd have to
> > search for it). Looking at other bugzilla's, Mozilla puts Intel Mac
> > bugs under PC...after all, since they've moved to x86, for all intents
> > and purposes, Intel Macs are PC's (especially if running Linux rather
> > than OS X). Those running OS X still can be identified as such by the
> > OS field.
> >
> > Yes, my goal was to separate x86/ppc bugs.
>
> Then we should change the tab to read ppc rather than mac.

I know this is an old thread, but I'd like to (finally) make some
progress on this...

I'd really like to see the Macintosh verb removed/renamed, since an
Intel Mac is really just a PC. The OS field tells us it's a Mac, and,
for example, a Linux OS on an Intel Mac is no different (to Wine) than
a regular x86/x86_64 PC running Linux.

Dan and I discussed it, and figured renaming the hardware to reflect
the architecture would be more descriptive:
Macintosh -> ppc32
PC -> x86
PC-x86-64 -> x86-64
sun -> sparc

How does that sound?

[Nate Gallaher]

Austin English wrote:
> Dan and I discussed it, and figured renaming the hardware to reflect
> the architecture would be more descriptive:
> Macintosh -> ppc32
> PC -> x86
> PC-x86-64 -> x86-64
> sun -> sparc
>
> How does that sound?

+1 here.

Sounds like a solid idea.

~Nate Gallaher

[Vitaliy Margolen]

Nate Gallaher wrote:
> Austin English wrote:
> > Dan and I discussed it, and figured renaming the hardware to reflect
> > the architecture would be more descriptive:
> > Macintosh -> ppc32
> > PC -> x86
> > PC-x86-64 -> x86-64
> > sun -> sparc
> >
> > How does that sound?
>
> +1 here.
>
> Sounds like a solid idea.

Looks good to me too.

Vitaliy.

[James McKenzie]

Vitaliy Margolen wrote:
> Nate Gallaher wrote:
> > Austin English wrote:
> > > Dan and I discussed it, and figured renaming the hardware to reflect
> > > the architecture would be more descriptive:
> > > Macintosh -> ppc32
> > > PC -> x86
> > > PC-x86-64 -> x86-64
> > > sun -> sparc
> > >
> > > How does that sound?
> >
> > +1 here.
> >
> > Sounds like a solid idea.
>
> Looks good to me too.
>
> Vitaliy.

+1

James McKenzie

[Tom Wickline]

On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Austin English wrote:
> Dan and I discussed it, and figured renaming the hardware to reflect
> the architecture would be more descriptive:
> Macintosh -> ppc32
> PC -> x86
> PC-x86-64 -> x86-64
> sun -> sparc
>
> How does that sound?
>
> --
> -Austin

If your going to re-work this I would also add ARM to the list, their has
been some work to port Wine  to the ARM processor lately. Anyone have any
objections to adding a ARM selection to the list?

ARM -> RISC

Cheers,
Tom