Hi!
I am new to the list and have Linux at home since last Thursday. I am still having some problems getting Forte Agent to work under Wine, but I am involved into (closed) beta testing for Forte Agent for many years and we just got the first shot at 2.0 which will change a lot anyway. Some problems are gone, but some serious problems are new.
It is the aim of Forte to have Agent run under Wine. So they asked me to invite Wine developers to join the beta testing people so both sides can see what needs to be done.
People on the Agent beta list are in very close contact (I really enjoy it) to the progammer Mark Sidell, he really get's the things done we suggest:-))
If you are a Wine developer and would like to join, please let me know, I'll forward it to the guys at Forte.
pi
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 23:19, Boris 'pi' Piwinger wrote:
Hi!
I am new to the list and have Linux at home since last Thursday. I am still having some problems getting Forte Agent to work under Wine, but I am involved into (closed) beta testing for Forte Agent for many years and we just got the first shot at 2.0 which will change a lot anyway. Some problems are gone, but some serious problems are new.
You didn't say what Forte Agent is, so I'll assume you mean this:
http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php
ie, a newsreader. As you're new to Linux I'll point out that you can use several good native newsreaders, like Pan or KNode. Is there any reason you want Forte in particular?
It is the aim of Forte to have Agent run under Wine. So they asked me to invite Wine developers to join the beta testing people so both sides can see what needs to be done.
OK, well, somebody may choose to take a look at their app in their spare time, that sometimes happens, but it's typically for apps with no native equivalents (games, specialist software, macromedia products etc)... probably your best bet one of these options:
a) Sit down and start debugging b) Talk to CodeWeavers, they can do app ports professionally c) Find a Wine developer available for work. I normally would be but am currently already working for somebody else on a different app (a domain-specific database). I dunno how much Forte want their app to run on Linux via Wine but we could probably figure something out if they are willing to wait
or
d) File bugs in bugzilla and hope people get around to fixing them.
thanks -mike
Mike Hearn wrote:
I am new to the list and have Linux at home since last Thursday. I am still having some problems getting Forte Agent to work under Wine, but I am involved into (closed) beta testing for Forte Agent for many years and we just got the first shot at 2.0 which will change a lot anyway. Some problems are gone, but some serious problems are new.
You didn't say what Forte Agent is, so I'll assume you mean this: http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php ie, a newsreader.
You are right. I heard that it would be very popular under Wine so I falsely assumed it is well known.
As you're new to Linux I'll point out that you can use several good native newsreaders, like Pan or KNode. Is there any reason you want Forte in particular?
Sure, it is really great:-))
Thanks for your suggestions.
pi
In message 3FAA5A8A.6060001@logic.univie.ac.at, Boris 'pi' Piwinger 3.14@logic.univie.ac.at writes
Mike Hearn wrote:
You didn't say what Forte Agent is, so I'll assume you mean this: http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php ie, a newsreader.
You are right. I heard that it would be very popular under Wine so I falsely assumed it is well known.
As you're new to Linux I'll point out that you can use several good native newsreaders, like Pan or KNode. Is there any reason you want Forte in particular?
Sure, it is really great:-))
Thanks for your suggestions.
pi
I had always (naively ?) understood that Agent was rather similar to Turnpike (a mailer/newsreader from the UK ISP Demon, with a similarly dedicated following); and that it was fairly straightforward to get running under wine (this was certainly true of the v3, 4 & 5 versions of TP - TP6 is based on Explorer, alas)
(Haven't tried for a bit - tend to use Win4lin)
Bob
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 14:24:06 +0000, you wrote:
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 23:19, Boris 'pi' Piwinger wrote:
Hi!
I am new to the list and have Linux at home since last Thursday. I am still having some problems getting Forte Agent to work under Wine, but I am involved into (closed) beta testing for Forte Agent for many years and we just got the first shot at 2.0 which will change a lot anyway. Some problems are gone, but some serious problems are new.
You didn't say what Forte Agent is, so I'll assume you mean this:
http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php
ie, a newsreader.
And a mail client. It is the second most used newsreader on usenet, close behind you know what.
As you're new to Linux I'll point out that you can use several good native newsreaders, like Pan or KNode. Is there any reason you want Forte in particular?
Well, Ive been using Agent under wine for at least 5 years. My reasons are not unlike those of others:
- Don't like changing my news/mail client. Completely rusted stuck.
- Pan and KNode are two of those examples where an application under wine may run more stable then a native app. Agent seems to be programmed quite intelligently, despite hundreds of crashes, I've not seen a data corruption/loss. Pan and KNode did several times in a handfull of tests.
- KNode is, or was the last time I tried, totally unsuitable for off-line newsreading.
Rein.
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 16:28, Rein Klazes wrote:
Well, Ive been using Agent under wine for at least 5 years. My reasons are not unlike those of others:
Don't like changing my news/mail client. Completely rusted stuck.
Pan and KNode are two of those examples where an application under
wine may run more stable then a native app. Agent seems to be programmed quite intelligently, despite hundreds of crashes, I've not seen a data corruption/loss. Pan and KNode did several times in a handfull of tests.
- KNode is, or was the last time I tried, totally unsuitable for
off-line newsreading.
Sounds cool indeed. Perhaps you'd be willing to take a look then?
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:51:39 +0000, you wrote:
Sounds cool indeed. Perhaps you'd be willing to take a look then?
Yes, I did mail Boris already that I am interested.
Rein.
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 00:19:56 +0100, "Boris 'pi' Piwinger" 3.14@logic.univie.ac.at wrote:
It is the aim of Forte to have Agent run under Wine. So they
Good! I'm anxiously waiting for Agent 2.0, because it has some features I would like to have like multiple accounts and multiple servers. Though I would prefer a native Linux app, good supported wine app is still acceptable. Agent is the only app from windows that I use regularly. The other thing I want to see with good support in wine are games, but so far I had no luck with it. :)
If you are a Wine developer and would like to join, please let me know, I'll forward it to the guys at Forte.
I 'm not sure if I would qualify. I have some things submitted in the past, but I'm not very active in that area right now, though I would love to test Agent 2.0 on wine as I use Agent exclusively on wine now.
Boris 'pi' Piwinger wrote:
I am new to the list and have Linux at home since last Thursday. I am still having some problems getting Forte Agent to work under Wine, but I am involved into (closed) beta testing for Forte Agent for many years and we just got the first shot at 2.0 which will change a lot anyway. Some problems are gone, but some serious problems are new.
It is the aim of Forte to have Agent run under Wine. So they asked me to invite Wine developers to join the beta testing people so both sides can see what needs to be done.
AFAIK Forte Agent 2.0 uses wxWindows, so maybe it could even be compiled with wxWindows wine port?
Regards, Nerijus