No MS apps will make it into muncher. Mucher will have three main compents, they are called the the Macrokernel, do-hickies, and thingamabobs.
The Macrokernel is the core system, hangs out in the linux partition. consists of Xfree86, wine, DosEMU, gnome, FVWM95, and supporting libs.
Do-hickies are the things that hang out on the desktop they are really linux apps hanging out in the Macrokernel. They look like windows explorer ActiveX compnents such as My computer and the Control panel.
Thingamabobs are larger do-hickies. They are full apps that are also on the macrokernel. This includes apps like Mozillia, a gtk text editor, a linux gtk verson of winipcfg that just snags output from ifconfig and makes it look pretty. I will not use any MS thingamabobs. I'll have to see if I can try and find system TTFs that don't belong to MS though.
-halkun
Hello, On 2001.02.12 20:34:35 +0800 Josh Walker wrote:
No MS apps will make it into muncher. Mucher will have three main compents, they are called the the Macrokernel, do-hickies, and thingamabobs.
The Macrokernel is the core system, hangs out in the linux partition. consists of Xfree86, wine, DosEMU, gnome, FVWM95, and supporting libs.
Has anyone suggested that we include reiser or ext3? This will allow the user to reboot without worrying about a sc*ndisk clone wasting valuable time booting up. Not that we expect Muncher to crash, but hey, that will be designed into the system right? ;) On second thought, we could include a faux scandisk based on ncurses to put all fears to rest.
Paolo Carballo
= http://www.mydestiny.net/~jplc/ GnuPG 1.0.4 KeyID 1EAD657C = Linux *is* user-friendly. It's just selective about it's friends.
Hi Is it just me or is it that you are trying hard to copy look of a badly written desktop. This way you are limiting yourself, think beyond POS windows desktop. Free your mind, come up with something better. FT
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Josh Walker wrote:
No MS apps will make it into muncher. Mucher will have three main compents, they are called the the Macrokernel, do-hickies, and thingamabobs.
The Macrokernel is the core system, hangs out in the linux partition. consists of Xfree86, wine, DosEMU, gnome, FVWM95, and supporting libs.
Do-hickies are the things that hang out on the desktop they are really linux apps hanging out in the Macrokernel. They look like windows explorer ActiveX compnents such as My computer and the Control panel.
Thingamabobs are larger do-hickies. They are full apps that are also on the macrokernel. This includes apps like Mozillia, a gtk text editor, a linux gtk verson of winipcfg that just snags output from ifconfig and makes it look pretty. I will not use any MS thingamabobs. I'll have to see if I can try and find system TTFs that don't belong to MS though.
-halkun
By announcing my intentions I've seem to have struck a chord with some people both here at work and on the mailing list (Not a bad chord, but just enough to take notice) Allow me to explain my goals on project muncher. It's a little more than "let's see how much we can make linux look like windows"
I understand that Windows is fairly buggy software with an ickey unmalleable interface and a kernel that looks like spaghetti going through a sieve. I also know that Linux is probably one of the most slickest kernels ever created. Modular, scalible, added to the fact it been linked to a filesystem based of one of oldest and best around, topped off with the ablility to configure darn near anything, why would you want anything else?
The probelm is this. Most users don't care. Doing the math I've concluded that the percent of users who don't give a hoot about anything that makes linux a good OS is directly proportional to the percent of people using something else.
I take the example of my mother as the typical windows user. She is a very nice person, as all mothers are, but really doesn't care that I can skin gkrellm.
"And that does what again?"
"Does it run Quicken?"
"Where's the paperclip?"
I think you kind of get the idea here.
People don't want things that are differnt, even though it's for the better. Trust me, I have an ex-fiance and was forced to deal with that same issue. The fact of the matter is if it looks like windows and walks like windows, it's windows, at least as far as my mother is concerned. All the behind the scenes linux stuff (which is far cooler as far as we are concerned) will be an added bonus for both us and her.
I also like make waves. Apple is theating legal action for people who just make Aqua *themes* Imagine annoucing to the world that you have a version of "windows" that is not only didn't come from Gates, but one that is totaly free. If MS even tried to litagate it'll make napster look like a circius show. MS is already been decalerd a monopoly. Now they are trying to crush a venture to make a compatible system in some garage somewhere.
Anyway enough ranting. I have an update. The PC I was using to create the distro blew it's motherboard so it's on hold until I can pin down another cheap PC to use as a test bed. It's cheaper just to get a new a new PC than replace the board. I'd love to work on the do-hickeys here at work with glade, but I'm under contarct that any I devlop on the clock is owned by the company.
-Joshua Walker
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, FT Rathore wrote:
Hi Is it just me or is it that you are trying hard to copy look of a badly written desktop. This way you are limiting yourself, think beyond POS windows desktop. Free your mind, come up with something better. FT
Hi Thansk for the response. Point well taken. It could be a good starting point, but, one thing. Please lose the paperclip it annoys the heck out of me. hehe!
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Josh Walker wrote:
By announcing my intentions I've seem to have struck a chord with some people both here at work and on the mailing list (Not a bad chord, but just enough to take notice) Allow me to explain my goals on project muncher. It's a little more than "let's see how much we can make linux look like windows"
I understand that Windows is fairly buggy software with an ickey unmalleable interface and a kernel that looks like spaghetti going through a sieve. I also know that Linux is probably one of the most slickest kernels ever created. Modular, scalible, added to the fact it been linked to a filesystem based of one of oldest and best around, topped off with the ablility to configure darn near anything, why would you want anything else?
The probelm is this. Most users don't care. Doing the math I've concluded that the percent of users who don't give a hoot about anything that makes linux a good OS is directly proportional to the percent of people using something else.
I take the example of my mother as the typical windows user. She is a very nice person, as all mothers are, but really doesn't care that I can skin gkrellm.
"And that does what again?"
"Does it run Quicken?"
"Where's the paperclip?"
I think you kind of get the idea here.
People don't want things that are differnt, even though it's for the better. Trust me, I have an ex-fiance and was forced to deal with that same issue. The fact of the matter is if it looks like windows and walks like windows, it's windows, at least as far as my mother is concerned. All the behind the scenes linux stuff (which is far cooler as far as we are concerned) will be an added bonus for both us and her.
I also like make waves. Apple is theating legal action for people who just make Aqua *themes* Imagine annoucing to the world that you have a version of "windows" that is not only didn't come from Gates, but one that is totaly free. If MS even tried to litagate it'll make napster look like a circius show. MS is already been decalerd a monopoly. Now they are trying to crush a venture to make a compatible system in some garage somewhere.
Anyway enough ranting. I have an update. The PC I was using to create the distro blew it's motherboard so it's on hold until I can pin down another cheap PC to use as a test bed. It's cheaper just to get a new a new PC than replace the board. I'd love to work on the do-hickeys here at work with glade, but I'm under contarct that any I devlop on the clock is owned by the company.
-Joshua Walker
On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, FT Rathore wrote:
Hi Is it just me or is it that you are trying hard to copy look of a badly written desktop. This way you are limiting yourself, think beyond POS windows desktop. Free your mind, come up with something better. FT
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