Re: kernel32/nls/winerr: Add Russian translation [try 3]

[Dmitry Timoshkov]

"Vladimir Pankratov"  wrote:
> Added Russian translation.
>
> Changed files:
> dlls/kernel32/nls/winerr_rus.mc

I think it's been said enough about your "translation". I'm not
going to spend more time commenting on it, I hope Alexandre will
ignore all future attempts as well.

kernel32/nls/winerr: Add Russian translation [try 3]

[Austin English]

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote:
> "Vladimir Pankratov"  wrote:
> > Added Russian translation.
> >
> > Changed files:
> > dlls/kernel32/nls/winerr_rus.mc
>
> I think it's been said enough about your "translation". I'm not
> going to spend more time commenting on it, I hope Alexandre will
> ignore all future attempts as well.

What problems? The only thing I've seen you say is that it's not a translation:
http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2009-August/077759.html

or were you referring to Frederic's comments?
http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2009-August/077761.html
> Message id 1221 is missing.

+MessageId=1221
+SymbolicName=ERROR_DUP_DOMAINNAME
+Language=RUS
+Имя рабочей группы или домена уже используется другим компьютером в сети.
+.

Fixed.
> File changed/created is winerr_rus.mc, not winerror_rus.mc BTW

@@ -91,7 +91,8 @@
    nls/winerr_lth.mc \
    nls/winerr_nld.mc \
    nls/winerr_nor.mc \
-	nls/winerr_plk.mc
+	nls/winerr_plk.mc \
+	nls/winerr_rus.mc

Also fixed.

kernel32/nls/winerr: Add Russian translation [try 3]

[Dmitry Timoshkov]

"Austin English"  wrote:
> > I think it's been said enough about your "translation". I'm not
> > going to spend more time commenting on it, I hope Alexandre will
> > ignore all future attempts as well.
>
> What problems? The only thing I've seen you say is that it's not a translation:
> http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2009-August/077759.html

Yes, that's not a translation.

kernel32/nls/winerr: Add Russian translation [try 3]

[Austin English]

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote:
> "Austin English"  wrote:
> > > I think it's been said enough about your "translation". I'm not
> > > going to spend more time commenting on it, I hope Alexandre will
> > > ignore all future attempts as well.
> >
> > What problems? The only thing I've seen you say is that it's not a
> > translation:
> > http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2009-August/077759.html
>
> Yes, that's not a translation.

Perhaps I'm ignorant, but I don't see how it's not a translation.

kernel32/nls/winerr: Add Russian translation [try 3]

[Dmitry Timoshkov]

"Austin English"  wrote:
> Perhaps I'm ignorant, but I don't see how it's not a translation.

It is not, it's enough to skim over first 10 strings to figure out that.
If there is a need for an extensive explanation I'll provide one.

kernel32/nls/winerr: Add Russian translation [try 3]

[Austin English]

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 3:35 AM, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote:
> "Austin English"  wrote:
> > Perhaps I'm ignorant, but I don't see how it's not a translation.
>
> It is not, it's enough to skim over first 10 strings to figure out that.
> If there is a need for an extensive explanation I'll provide one.

If you don't mind one, I'd appreciate it. Looking at the patch:
LanguageNames=(RUS=0x419:winerr)
CodePages=(RUS=65001:0)

MessageId=0
SymbolicName=ERROR_SUCCESS
Language=RUS
Операция успешно завершена.
.
MessageId=1
SymbolicName=ERROR_INVALID_FUNCTION
Language=RUS
Неверная функция.
.

and then a 'real' translation (French):
LanguageNames=(FRA=0x0c:winerr)
CodePages=(FRA=65001:0)

MessageId=0
SymbolicName=ERROR_SUCCESS
Language=FRA
Succès
.
MessageId=1
SymbolicName=ERROR_INVALID_FUNCTION
Language=FRA
Fonction invalide
.

I don't see a difference.

kernel32/nls/winerr: Add Russian translation [try 3]

[Dmitry Timoshkov]

"Austin English"  wrote:
> If you don't mind one, I'd appreciate it.
> +MessageId=0
> +SymbolicName=ERROR_SUCCESS
> +Language=RUS
> +Операция успешно завершена.

winerr_enu.mc: Success

c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 0
The operation completed successfully.
> +MessageId=2
> +SymbolicName=ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND
> +Language=RUS
> +Не удаётся найти указанный файл.

winerr_enu.mc: File not found

c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 2
The system cannot find the file specified.
> +MessageId=3
> +SymbolicName=ERROR_PATH_NOT_FOUND
> +Language=RUS
> +Системе не удаётся найти указанный путь.

winerr_enu.mc: Path not found

c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 3
The system cannot find the path specified.
> +MessageId=4
> +SymbolicName=ERROR_TOO_MANY_OPEN_FILES
> +Language=RUS
> +Системе не удается открыть файл. Слишком много открытых файлов.

winerr_enu.mc: Too many open files

c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 4
The system cannot open the file.

etc., etc.

kernel32/nls/winerr: Add Russian translation [try 3]

[Luke Benstead]

2009/8/10 Dmitry Timoshkov :
> "Austin English"  wrote:
> > If you don't mind one, I'd appreciate it.
> > +MessageId=0
> > +SymbolicName=ERROR_SUCCESS
> > +Language=RUS
> > +Операция успешно завершена.
>
> winerr_enu.mc: Success
>
> c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 0
> The operation completed successfully.
> > +MessageId=2
> > +SymbolicName=ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND
> > +Language=RUS
> > +Не удаётся найти указанный файл.
>
> winerr_enu.mc: File not found
>
> c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 2
> The system cannot find the file specified.
> > +MessageId=3
> > +SymbolicName=ERROR_PATH_NOT_FOUND
> > +Language=RUS
> > +Системе не удаётся найти указанный путь.
>
> winerr_enu.mc: Path not found
>
> c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 3
> The system cannot find the path specified.
> > +MessageId=4
> > +SymbolicName=ERROR_TOO_MANY_OPEN_FILES
> > +Language=RUS
> > +Системе не удается открыть файл. Слишком много открытых файлов.
>
> winerr_enu.mc: Too many open files
>
> c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 4
> The system cannot open the file.
>
> etc., etc.
>
> --
> Dmitry.

Vladimir, to clarify, the strings must be direct translations from the
English version. They should not be more verbose re-phrasings which is
what you have submitted.

Luke.

kernel32/nls/winerr: Add Russian translation [try 3]

[Paul Vriens]

Luke Benstead wrote:
> 2009/8/10 Dmitry Timoshkov :
> > "Austin English"  wrote:
> > > If you don't mind one, I'd appreciate it.
> > > +MessageId=0
> > > +SymbolicName=ERROR_SUCCESS
> > > +Language=RUS
> > > +Операция успешно завершена.
> >
> > winerr_enu.mc: Success
> >
> > c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 0
> > The operation completed successfully.
> > > +MessageId=2
> > > +SymbolicName=ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND
> > > +Language=RUS
> > > +Не удаётся найти указанный файл.
> >
> > winerr_enu.mc: File not found
> >
> > c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 2
> > The system cannot find the file specified.
> > > +MessageId=3
> > > +SymbolicName=ERROR_PATH_NOT_FOUND
> > > +Language=RUS
> > > +Системе не удаётся найти указанный путь.
> >
> > winerr_enu.mc: Path not found
> >
> > c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 3
> > The system cannot find the path specified.
> > > +MessageId=4
> > > +SymbolicName=ERROR_TOO_MANY_OPEN_FILES
> > > +Language=RUS
> > > +Системе не удается открыть файл. Слишком много открытых файлов.
> >
> > winerr_enu.mc: Too many open files
> >
> > c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 4
> > The system cannot open the file.
> >
> > etc., etc.
> >
> > --
> > Dmitry.
>
> Vladimir, to clarify, the strings must be direct translations from the
> English version. They should not be more verbose re-phrasings which is
> what you have submitted.
>
> Luke.

Not sure direct translation of English is a must. It's nice if they are 
in line of course, but the most important thing (like with other 
documentation in our source) is that it must be your own wording and not 
a verbatim copy of Windows documentation/resources.

kernel32/nls/winerr: Add Russian translation [try 3]

[Luke Benstead]

2009/8/10 Paul Vriens :
> Luke Benstead wrote:
> > 2009/8/10 Dmitry Timoshkov :
> > > "Austin English"  wrote:
> > > > If you don't mind one, I'd appreciate it.
> > > > +MessageId=0
> > > > +SymbolicName=ERROR_SUCCESS
> > > > +Language=RUS
> > > > +Операция успешно завершена.
> > >
> > > winerr_enu.mc: Success
> > >
> > > c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 0
> > > The operation completed successfully.
> > > > +MessageId=2
> > > > +SymbolicName=ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND
> > > > +Language=RUS
> > > > +Не удаётся найти указанный файл.
> > >
> > > winerr_enu.mc: File not found
> > >
> > > c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 2
> > > The system cannot find the file specified.
> > > > +MessageId=3
> > > > +SymbolicName=ERROR_PATH_NOT_FOUND
> > > > +Language=RUS
> > > > +Системе не удаётся найти указанный путь.
> > >
> > > winerr_enu.mc: Path not found
> > >
> > > c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 3
> > > The system cannot find the path specified.
> > > > +MessageId=4
> > > > +SymbolicName=ERROR_TOO_MANY_OPEN_FILES
> > > > +Language=RUS
> > > > +Системе не удается открыть файл. Слишком много открытых файлов.
> > >
> > > winerr_enu.mc: Too many open files
> > >
> > > c:\xp_prompt> net helpmsg 4
> > > The system cannot open the file.
> > >
> > > etc., etc.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dmitry.
> >
> > Vladimir, to clarify, the strings must be direct translations from the
> > English version. They should not be more verbose re-phrasings which is
> > what you have submitted.
> >
> > Luke.
>
> Not sure direct translation of English is a must. It's nice if they are in
> line of course, but the most important thing (like with other documentation
> in our source) is that it must be your own wording and not a verbatim copy
> of Windows documentation/resources.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.

Yeah, sorry I meant to say "close" translations - not all languages
would have direct translations..

Luke.