What happened to the Fedora packages?

[Neal Gompa]

What happened to the Fedora packages? They have not been updated since
0.9.2!!!! Right now it is at 0.9.10!!! Nearly every other Linux distro
supported has the up to date packages!!! And why does the Red Hat packages
site not go to the SourceForge site as it does for SUSE packages and the
others?? I have not really had the guts to ask until now, because I thought
that maybe there was a slump, but now, its getting annoying!! And Fedora
just released Fedora Core 5 yesterday!!! Please tell me new packages will be
ready soon!!! Compiling WINE always crashes my computer, so I prefer to use
the RPMs...

[Michel Ludwig]

On Wed 22 Mar 2006 03:55, Neal Gompa wrote:
> What happened to the Fedora packages? They have not been updated since
> 0.9.2!!!! Right now it is at 0.9.10!!! Nearly every other Linux distro
> supported has the up to date packages!!! And why does the Red Hat packages
> site not go to the SourceForge site as it does for SUSE packages and the
> others?? I have not really had the guts to ask until now, because I thought
> that maybe there was a slump, but now, its getting annoying!! And Fedora
> just released Fedora Core 5 yesterday!!! Please tell me new packages will
> be ready soon!!! Compiling WINE always crashes my computer, so I prefer to
> use the RPMs...

Nice and decent Fedora Wine packages are in Fedora Extras:

http://fedoraproject.org/extras/4/i386/repodata/repoview/W.group.html

http://fedoraproject.org/extras/5/i386/repodata/repoview/W.group.html

And even a "yum install wine" should do it (as root of course :-)).

[Andreas Bierfert]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:01:23 +0100
Michel Ludwig  wrote:
> Nice and decent Fedora Wine packages are in Fedora Extras:

I am interested in the _decent_ part... always open for suggestions :)

- Andreas

P.S.: wine-0.9.10.i386 made it to the x86_64 tree so x86_64 users of Fedora
Extras can get wine.i386 now by typing yum install wine as well...

[Michel Ludwig]

On Thu 23 Mar 2006 23:40, Andreas Bierfert wrote:
> > Nice and decent Fedora Wine packages are in Fedora Extras:
>
> I am interested in the _decent_ part... always open for suggestions :)

Well, decent in the sense that the packages are well-made, or alternatively: 
you've done a great job ! :-)

Michel

[Andreas Bierfert]

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:13:16 +0100
Michel Ludwig  wrote:
> Well, decent in the sense that the packages are well-made, or alternatively: 
> you've done a great job ! :-)

;) nice to hear ... tough if any of you have suggestions or problems let me
know.

- Andreas

[Francois Gouget]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Neal Gompa wrote:
> What happened to the Fedora packages? They have not been updated since
> 0.9.2!!!! Right now it is at 0.9.10!!! Nearly every other Linux distro
> supported has the up to date packages!!! And why does the Red Hat packages
> site not go to the SourceForge site as it does for SUSE packages and the
> others?? I have not really had the guts to ask until now, because I thought
> that maybe there was a slump, but now, its getting annoying!! And Fedora
> just released Fedora Core 5 yesterday!!! Please tell me new packages will be
> ready soon!!! Compiling WINE always crashes my computer, so I prefer to use
> the RPMs...

If compiling Wine crashes your computer!!! then something is wrong!!! 
with your computer!!! You should really find out what!!! and fix it!!!
Otherwise you are likely to get problems running Wine!!!

Exclamation marks aside this is a good question.
Is help needed to generate the RedHat packages?
I'm not voluntering myself since I don't use Fedora<g>.

[Mike Hearn]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:04:52 +0100, Francois Gouget wrote:
> If compiling Wine crashes your computer!!! then something is wrong!!! 
> with your computer!!! You should really find out what!!! and fix it!!!
> Otherwise you are likely to get problems running Wine!!!

It's a bug in Wine, which I harassed AJ about a long time ago but it was
never fixed I guess because he has a super-awesome machine :)

Basically, compiling winetest causes gas to blow gigs of memory, because
it's compiling like 50mb+ of assembly. I just hacked it out of the build
system myself.

There's nothing wrong with my machine except it being old ...

[Alexandre Julliard]

Mike Hearn  writes:
> It's a bug in Wine, which I harassed AJ about a long time ago but it was
> never fixed I guess because he has a super-awesome machine :)
>
> Basically, compiling winetest causes gas to blow gigs of memory, because
> it's compiling like 50mb+ of assembly. I just hacked it out of the build
> system myself.

The problem was actually with gcc, and it's been fixed for a while
now.

[Mike Hearn]

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:55:41 +0100, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
> The problem was actually with gcc, and it's been fixed for a while
> now.

Ah awesome, I'll re-enable winetest then, thanks.

[Segin]

Neal Gompa wrote:
> What happened to the Fedora packages? They have not been updated since 
> 0.9.2!!!! Right now it is at 0.9.10!!! Nearly every other Linux distro 
> supported has the up to date packages!!! And why does the Red Hat 
> packages site not go to the SourceForge site as it does for SUSE 
> packages and the others?? I have not really had the guts to ask until 
> now, because I thought that maybe there was a slump, but now, its 
> getting annoying!! And Fedora just released Fedora Core 5 yesterday!!! 
> Please tell me new packages will be ready soon!!! Compiling WINE 
> always crashes my computer, so I prefer to use the RPMs...

Is your computer also a Pentium 166MHz with 32MB of RAM? ...

No, wait, even THAT can compile wine. Wine wasn't rated for 16MB 
systems, sorry. </sarcasam>

Or in English: You need more RAM. When you run out of RAM, almost all 
UNIXes and clones have a kernel panic. Linux does either that, or it 
starts randomly killing off proccesses (your window manager, X, init, 
and so on) depending on it config at compile time.
Please make sure you have enough swap, you have plenty of RAM (512MB or 
more), all of your toolkit conponets (gcc, binutils, etc.) are up to 
date, and that you don't have faulty hardware.

[Neal Gompa]

Well, the system is a Pentium 4 2.8GHz HyperThreading with 512MB RAM, so
that is not the problem! It just always fails....

On 3/22/06, Segin  wrote:
> Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> What happened to the Fedora packages? They have not been updated since
> 0.9.2!!!! Right now it is at 0.9.10!!! Nearly every other Linux distro
> supported has the up to date packages!!! And why does the Red Hat packages
> site not go to the SourceForge site as it does for SUSE packages and the
> others?? I have not really had the guts to ask until now, because I thought
> that maybe there was a slump, but now, its getting annoying!! And Fedora
> just released Fedora Core 5 yesterday!!! Please tell me new packages will be
> ready soon!!! Compiling WINE always crashes my computer, so I prefer to use
> the RPMs...
>
> Is your computer also a Pentium 166MHz with 32MB of RAM? ...
>
> No, wait, even THAT can compile wine. Wine wasn't rated for 16MB systems,
> sorry. </sarcasam>
>
> Or in English: You need more RAM. When you run out of RAM, almost all
> UNIXes and clones have a kernel panic. Linux does either that, or it starts
> randomly killing off proccesses (your window manager, X, init, and so on)
> depending on it config at compile time.
> Please make sure you have enough swap, you have plenty of RAM (512MB or
> more), all of your toolkit conponets (gcc, binutils, etc.) are up to date,
> and that you don't have faulty hardware.

[Segin]

Did you install the -devel packages for all of the dependecies? They 
contain the headers nessessrary for complimation. Also you need 
gcc/binutils.

or you can try a slackware package, just untar the entire thing to / and 
delete /install afterwards

Neal Gompa wrote:
> Well, the system is a Pentium 4 2.8GHz HyperThreading with 512MB RAM, 
> so that is not the problem! It just always fails....
>
> On 3/22/06, *Segin* < [e-mail] 
> > wrote:
> Neal Gompa wrote:
> What happened to the Fedora packages? They have not been updated
> since 0.9.2!!!! Right now it is at 0.9.10!!! Nearly every other
> Linux distro supported has the up to date packages!!! And why does
> the Red Hat packages site not go to the SourceForge site as it
> does for SUSE packages and the others?? I have not really had the
> guts to ask until now, because I thought that maybe there was a
> slump, but now, its getting annoying!! And Fedora just released
> Fedora Core 5 yesterday!!! Please tell me new packages will be
> ready soon!!! Compiling WINE always crashes my computer, so I
> prefer to use the RPMs...
>
> Is your computer also a Pentium 166MHz with 32MB of RAM? ...
>
> No, wait, even THAT can compile wine. Wine wasn't rated for 16MB
> systems, sorry. </sarcasam>
>
> Or in English: You need more RAM. When you run out of RAM, almost
> all UNIXes and clones have a kernel panic. Linux does either that,
> or it starts randomly killing off proccesses (your window manager,
> X, init, and so on) depending on it config at compile time.
> Please make sure you have enough swap, you have plenty of RAM
> (512MB or more), all of your toolkit conponets (gcc, binutils,
> etc.) are up to date, and that you don't have faulty hardware.

[Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)]

We just compiled the latest wine rpm for our upcoming MultiMedia
Edition....no problems at all...We made only minor adjustments, to
reflect the fact, that it's a StartCom build and not Fedora....

The files can be used of course by any compatible OS:

http://ftp.belnet.be/linux/startcom/ML-5.0.5/os/i386/StartCom/RPMS/wine*.rpm

Cheers!

Regards

Signer:      Eddy Nigg, StartCom Ltd.
Phone:       [phone]

Neal Gompa wrote:
> Well, the system is a Pentium 4 2.8GHz HyperThreading with 512MB RAM,
> so that is not the problem! It just always fails....
>
> On 3/22/06, *Segin* < [e-mail]
> > wrote:
> Neal Gompa wrote:
> What happened to the Fedora packages? They have not been updated
> since 0.9.2!!!! Right now it is at 0.9.10!!! Nearly every other
> Linux distro supported has the up to date packages!!! And why does
> the Red Hat packages site not go to the SourceForge site as it
> does for SUSE packages and the others?? I have not really had the
> guts to ask until now, because I thought that maybe there was a
> slump, but now, its getting annoying!! And Fedora just released
> Fedora Core 5 yesterday!!! Please tell me new packages will be
> ready soon!!! Compiling WINE always crashes my computer, so I
> prefer to use the RPMs...
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> Is your computer also a Pentium 166MHz with 32MB of RAM? ...
>
> No, wait, even THAT can compile wine. Wine wasn't rated for 16MB
> systems, sorry. </sarcasam>
>
> Or in English: You need more RAM. When you run out of RAM, almost
> all UNIXes and clones have a kernel panic. Linux does either that,
> or it starts randomly killing off proccesses (your window manager,
> X, init, and so on) depending on it config at compile time.
> Please make sure you have enough swap, you have plenty of RAM
> (512MB or more), all of your toolkit conponets (gcc, binutils,
> etc.) are up to date, and that you don't have faulty hardware.

[Francois Gouget]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Neal Gompa wrote:
> Well, the system is a Pentium 4 2.8GHz HyperThreading with 512MB RAM, so
> that is not the problem! It just always fails....

Oh, the compilation fails? That's not the same as the computer 
crashing...

Maybe you can send us the error message and then we can help you.

[Neal Gompa]

I just decided to use the yum packages suggested earlier... and yes, it
fails, then crashes! anyway, thanks!

On 3/23/06, Francois Gouget  wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > Well, the system is a Pentium 4 2.8GHz HyperThreading with 512MB RAM, so
> > that is not the problem! It just always fails....
>
> Oh, the compilation fails? That's not the same as the computer
> crashing...
>
> Maybe you can send us the error message and then we can help you.
>
> --
> Francois Gouget               http://fgouget.free.fr/
>             Demander si un ordinateur peut penser revient à demander
>                            si un sous-marin peut nager.

[Kuba Ober]

On Thursday 23 March 2006 19:07, Neal Gompa wrote:
> I just decided to use the yum packages suggested earlier... and yes, it
> fails, then crashes! anyway, thanks!

You might be speaking chinese as well. Care to post actual messages? Being 
vague when asking for help is rude.

Cheers, Kuba

[Neal Gompa]

Maybe you should put on the Fedora RPM package site a large noticable notice
that says that for Fedora Core 3, 4, and 5, simply using terminal, sudo into
root, and then do "yum install wine" to get the latest WINE packages. Also,
note that Fedora Core 3 has to manually be configured for Fedora Extras.
This way, people will know that it is in Fedora Extras now, and people like
me won't miss it :)

On 3/23/06, Neal Gompa  wrote:
> I just decided to use the yum packages suggested earlier... and yes, it
> fails, then crashes! anyway, thanks!
>
> On 3/23/06, Francois Gouget < [e-mail]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > Well, the system is a Pentium 4 2.8GHz HyperThreading with 512MB RAM,
> >
> > so
> > > that is not the problem! It just always fails....
> >
> > Oh, the compilation fails? That's not the same as the computer
> > crashing...
> >
> > Maybe you can send us the error message and then we can help you.
> >
> > --
> > Francois Gouget               http://fgouget.free.fr/
> >             Demander si un ordinateur peut penser revient à demander
> >                            si un sous-marin peut nager.

[Kuba Ober]

> Compiling WINE always crashes my computer, so I prefer to
> use the RPMs...

You'd better figure out why compilation crashes your computer. It might be a 
hardware or kernel problem. Anyway, you first have to get such compilations 
to run stably, only then try actually running wine. Software builds are good  
system stress tests (or turn out to be).

Cheers, Kuba

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