Dogfood status

[Dan Kegel]

I've been dogfooding Wine with Firefox for some time.
It's totally usable and good looking now.
The four open bugs,
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4523 (copy/paste problem)
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4528 (too tall)
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4762 (flash crash)
http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4829 (jerky animations)
while serious, do not prevent me from getting work done.

A new problem is that apps have been crashing with
  X Error of failed request:  BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter)
  Major opcode of failed request:  17 (X_GetAtomName)
  Atom id in failed request:  0x0
every day.  This is on Ubuntu 5.10 with updates, and might
be a problem with the X server.  I'll try updating to Ubuntu 6.04
flight 5 and see if that makes it go away.

Anyway, since Firefox is in fairly good good shape, I'm
now running putty under wine instead of using linux's built-in ssh.
Works fine.  Three annoyances:

1) takes a while (ten seconds) to open up session after clicking 'open'.

2) every keystroke yields the console message
fixme:imm:ImmReleaseContext (0xb014e, 0x7fdbee18): stub

3) It took me a while to figure out how to copy and paste in putty,
since Linux doesn't have the 'copy / paste' items in the upper left
corner menu.  (ctrl-insert and shift-insert work fine.)  But that's
a linux window manager issue, not a wine issue.

Overall, I'm productive and happy.  Success!

Since those are the *only two gui apps I use*
on Linux,  I'm running out of things to dogfood!
Oh, once in a while I need an image editor.
Maybe I'll dogfood windows gimp next (quadruple yuck)...

- Dan

--
Wine for Windows ISVs: http://kegel.com/wine/isv

[Dimi Paun]

From: "Dan Kegel"
> Anyway, since Firefox is in fairly good good shape, I'm
> now running putty under wine instead of using linux's built-in ssh.

Cool. IIRC putty builds as a Winelib app just fine, not that
it makes a difference... :)

[Dan Kegel]

On 3/14/06, Dimi Paun  wrote:
> From: "Dan Kegel"
> > Anyway, since Firefox is in fairly good good shape, I'm
> > now running putty under wine instead of using linux's built-in ssh.
>
> Cool. IIRC putty builds as a Winelib app just fine, not that
> it makes a difference... :)

If I were on Sparc, PowerPC, or HPPA, I'd be glad about that :-)

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Wine for Windows ISVs: http://kegel.com/wine/isv

[Mike Hearn]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:54:28 -0800, Dan Kegel wrote:
> - It took me a while to figure out how to copy and paste in putty,

Heh, it takes me a while to figure that out on Windows too. I don't think
there IS any UI for it, I keep expecting it to be in the window menu but
to paste you actually have to right click IIRC. Maybe it's changed now.

I keep meaning to find a decent Win32 news/email reader, but haven't found
one yet. I'd be happy to dogfood a newsreader if anybody knows a good one.
Only requirements are that it must support multiple news servers and gmane
specifically, and it needs to understand threading.

thanks -mike

[Louis Lenders]

Dan Kegel <dank <at> kegel.com> writes:
> I've been dogfooding Wine with Firefox for some time.
> It's totally usable and good looking now.

Hi Dan, inspired by you i decided to go this way as well. I've remeoved shortcut
buttons to xmms and mozilla (linux) from my task bar and replaced them by
shortcuts to little scripts that start mozilla.exe and winamp in wine. Just want
to share some experiences. As a frequent wine-user my favourite commands are "rm
-rf ~/.wine" and "wineserver -k" And that's where i ran into trouble... First
problem solved by consequently using
 WINEPREFIX="/c" wine "c:\Program Files/Winamp/winamp.exe". Second problem was a
bit more thinking. I compiled an extra wine package in /tmp/wine and run by
WINEPREFIX="/c" /tmp/wine/wine  "c:\Program Files/Winamp/winamp.exe"
Now i can do wineserver -k without killing winamp :). So i've now put some
aliases in  /etc/bashrc for most common commands:

alias _wine='WINEPREFIX="/c" /tmp/wine/wine'

alias _winecfg='WINEPREFIX="/c" /tmp/wine/programs/winecfg/winecfg'

alias _regedit='WINEPREFIX="/c" /tmp/wine/programs/regedit/regedit'

So now i can do _wine "c:\Program Files/Winamp/winamp.exe" _and_ rm -rf ~/.wine
and wineserver -k, without any trouble.

Sofar Mozilla runs really great; Winamp has some issues but sound plays well.

[Dan Kegel]

Louis wrote:
> As a frequent wine-user my favourite commands are
> "rm -rf ~/.wine" and "wineserver -k"

Me, too.  Hard to control that urge while dogfooding, it's it?
> And that's where i ran into trouble... First
> problem solved by consequently using
> WINEPREFIX="/c" wine "c:\Program Files/Winamp/winamp.exe". >Second problem was a bit more thinking.
> I compiled an extra wine package in /tmp/wine and run by
> WINEPREFIX="/c" /tmp/wine/wine  "c:\Program Files/Winamp/winamp.exe"
> Now i can do wineserver -k without killing winamp :).

Good ideas!  I'll probably do something like that.
> So far Mozilla runs really great; Winamp has some issues but sound

plays well.

Bugzilla shows four open bugs against winamp:
729  3245  4373  4825
Do you have some new ones to file?
- Dan