#winehackers IRC logs

[Mike Hearn]

Was not feeling in a wine-hacking mood so I wrote this instead:

http://www.navi.cx/~mike/winelogs/

Voila, you can now see the stuff we all talk about in there, updated in
real time. You need an XSLT capable browser. Any modern gecko browser will
do it, as will IE6 with the a recent MSXML. Konqueror will not. Opera will
not. At some point I may move the xslt processing serverside, but not sure
when I'll have the motivation.

Have fun!

thanks -mike

[Jeremy White]

I have to confess that I'm mildly uncomfortable with this; I speak more
freely in IRC that I do in email, at least in part because of the
(admittedly foolish) notion that it's like speech - fleeting and
ephmeral.

I know that this is foolish on my part; anyone can lurk in an irc
channel, and anyone can save a log, and anyone can post that log
to a web site.

However, if this web site gets linked off of winehq, then
any off hand remarks I make can get googled pretty easily,
which is going to make me nervous, and I'm going to hold my
tongue even more (and yes, there are remarks in the log
that I now regret having said since it was just published far
and wide :-/; fortunately, they weren't particularly offensive
or bad imo).

This is just my $0.02; there are others who may well feel
completely differently, and may well be right to do so.

Cheers,

Jer

Mike Hearn wrote:
> Was not feeling in a wine-hacking mood so I wrote this instead:
>
> http://www.navi.cx/~mike/winelogs/
>
> Voila, you can now see the stuff we all talk about in there, updated in
> real time. You need an XSLT capable browser. Any modern gecko browser will
> do it, as will IE6 with the a recent MSXML. Konqueror will not. Opera will
> not. At some point I may move the xslt processing serverside, but not sure
> when I'll have the motivation.
>
> Have fun!
>
> thanks -mike

[Mike Hearn]

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 23:30:53 -0600, Jeremy White wrote:
> I have to confess that I'm mildly uncomfortable with this; I speak more
> freely in IRC that I do in email, at least in part because of the
> (admittedly foolish) notion that it's like speech - fleeting and
> ephmeral.

Hmm. Yes, this is an interesting one. I wrote this stuff more to kill time
while I was feeling zoned than anything else, I can switch it off pretty
easily and wouldn't mind. Alternatively, would some way to selectively
disable logging help (log on/log off)?

What do others think?

[Joerg Mayer]

On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 12:32:03PM +0000, Mike Hearn wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 23:30:53 -0600, Jeremy White wrote:
> > I have to confess that I'm mildly uncomfortable with this; I speak more
> > freely in IRC that I do in email, at least in part because of the
> > (admittedly foolish) notion that it's like speech - fleeting and
> > ephmeral.
>
> Hmm. Yes, this is an interesting one. I wrote this stuff more to kill time
> while I was feeling zoned than anything else, I can switch it off pretty
> easily and wouldn't mind. Alternatively, would some way to selectively
> disable logging help (log on/log off)?

Although I haven't visited a wine channel for a fwe years now, I've always
disliked the idea of having my speech (and typos) recorded. It's one thing
to hold an online meeting with fixed starting end ending times and maybe
even an agenda: Logging something like that makes sense. But when people
are just thinking loud or "just" chatting - I think it's a win for everyone
that things like that are *not* recorded (everyone includes the BigBrother
fraction, although they don't realize this of course ;-)
So if you feel that there are interesting things being said that are worth
publishing, you should do it right: Record it, edit it manually and then
post a summary. But, as I mentioned, I haven't been to one of the wine
channels for a long time. Which reminds me...

Ciao
   Jörg