Wine default install queries - Wine 20030115

[J. Grant]

Hi,

Is there a reason e:\test is in the default path when I install from 
CVS? (this dir does not exist)

There is no windows version defined in the [Version] block, should a 
windows version be defined to use as default?

Drive F: was setup as CDROM, even though the ./tools/wineinstall  said
it could not find the CDROM during the process I think.  Checking fstab
for "cdrom" would determine the cdrom drive(s) on most computers.

[Drive C] was setup as type "win95", however its had label "MS-DOS", I 
think
this would be better as "wine" by default, could this be considered please?

Regards

JG

[Tony Lambregts]

J. Grant wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a reason e:\test is in the default path when I install from 
> CVS? (this dir does not exist)

Curious its been there for over two years does anyone object to having 
it removed?
> There is no windows version defined in the [Version] block, should a 
> windows version be defined to use as default?

The short answer is that it should not be required
> Drive F: was setup as CDROM, even though the ./tools/wineinstall  said
> it could not find the CDROM during the process I think.  Checking fstab
> for "cdrom" would determine the cdrom drive(s) on most computers.

This should work. A log of the relevant part of ./tools/wineinstall 
would be good.
> [Drive C] was setup as type "win95", however its had label "MS-DOS", I 
> think
> this would be better as "wine" by default, could this be considered 
> please?

Well to be case correct "Wine". I think this is a holdover from when 
wine "needed windows" so the drive would be "MS-DOS" as oppossed to 
"*nix" The label is irrelavant to wine but.(ahem) isn't "MS-DOS" a (tm). 
Anyways changing it would not hurt any objections or other suggestions?

Thanks

[J. Grant]

Hi,
> > There is no windows version defined in the [Version] block, should a 
> > windows version be defined to use as default?
>
> The short answer is that it should not be required

In the case where a program tries to detect what version of MS-Windows
it is running on is there a default returned?  Are there any test
programs to see this at all? I did not find a test dir in the src or
other wine package for testing.  There is a "tools" dir that had some
very useful programs I have used before.
> > Drive F: was setup as CDROM, even though the ./tools/wineinstall  said
> > it could not find the CDROM during the process I think.  Checking fstab
> > for "cdrom" would determine the cdrom drive(s) on most computers.
>
> This should work. A log of the relevant part of ./tools/wineinstall 
> would be good.

OK, I ran again, it ended abrumptly (perhaps because this was the 2nd 
time I ran it). You can see the log of the cdrom detection section though.

###
Installing default Wine registry entries...

Could not stat /mnt/fd0 (No such file or directory), ignoring drive A:
Could not stat /home/now3d/.wine/yes (No such file or directory),
ignoring drive C:
Could not stat /cdrom (No such file or directory), ignoring drive D:
Invalid path L"c:\windows" for L"windows" directory: does not exist
Perhaps you have not properly edited or created your Wine configuration
file.
This is (supposed to be) '/home/now3d/.wine/config'
Registry install failed.
###
> Well to be case correct "Wine". I think this is a holdover from when 
> wine "needed windows" so the drive would be "MS-DOS" as oppossed to 
> "*nix" The label is irrelavant to wine but.(ahem) isn't "MS-DOS" a (tm). 
> Anyways changing it would not hurt any objections or other suggestions?

"Wine" sounds good to me, I did not think partitions can have mixed case
filenames in MS-Windows though? It seems to force the first character to
be in upper-case only in my experience.

I noticed a few references to MS-DOS in the "config" file, such as:

;; MS-DOS drives configuration

Perhpas this would be better labeled as "DOS" (generally), or even just
"Drive configuration" in this case..?  MS-DOS is a trademark.

Regards

JG

[Tony Lambregts]

J. Grant wrote:
> Hi,
> > > There is no windows version defined in the [Version] block, should a 
> > > windows version be defined to use as default?
> >
> > The short answer is that it should not be required
>
> In the case where a program tries to detect what version of MS-Windows
> it is running on is there a default returned?

From what I understand win31 <g> It looks like that if you are using 
Windows dlls it takes the version from the first dll it loads and uses 
that. (I could be wrong) The code for this is in misc/version.c
> Are there any test
> programs to see this at all? I did not find a test dir in the src or
> other wine package for testing.  There is a "tools" dir that had some
> very useful programs I have used before.

I have no idea why it would be there. my personal guess is that there 
are some helper programs in the tools directory that might use it. (Does 
anyone know ?)
> > > Drive F: was setup as CDROM, even though the ./tools/wineinstall  said
> > > it could not find the CDROM during the process I think.  Checking fstab
> > > for "cdrom" would determine the cdrom drive(s) on most computers.
> >
> > This should work. A log of the relevant part of ./tools/wineinstall 
> > would be good.
>
> OK, I ran again, it ended abrumptly (perhaps because this was the 2nd 
> time I ran it). You can see the log of the cdrom detection section 
> though.
>
> ###
> Installing default Wine registry entries...
>
> Could not stat /mnt/fd0 (No such file or directory), ignoring drive A:
> Could not stat /home/now3d/.wine/yes (No such file or directory),

WTH..  how is it getting this? something is wrong before this.

Get rid of you old config file (rename it junk or something) and rerun 
 ./tools/wineinstall.   I would like to see the  full log of this.
> ignoring drive C:
> Could not stat /cdrom (No such file or directory), ignoring drive D:
> Invalid path L"c:\windows" for L"windows" directory: does not exist
> Perhaps you have not properly edited or created your Wine configuration
> file.
> This is (supposed to be) '/home/now3d/.wine/config'
> Registry install failed.
> ###
> > Well to be case correct "Wine". I think this is a holdover from when 
> > wine "needed windows" so the drive would be "MS-DOS" as oppossed to 
> > "*nix" The label is irrelavant to wine but.(ahem) isn't "MS-DOS" a 
> > (tm). Anyways changing it would not hurt any objections or other 
> > suggestions?
>
> "Wine" sounds good to me, I did not think partitions can have mixed case
> filenames in MS-Windows though? It seems to force the first character to
> be in upper-case only in my experience.

Just a little joke on my part. "Wine" is the proper name of this project.
> I noticed a few references to MS-DOS in the "config" file, such as:
>
> ;; MS-DOS drives configuration
>
> Perhpas this would be better labeled as "DOS" (generally), or even just
> "Drive configuration" in this case..?  MS-DOS is a trademark.

Yeah I suppose we could change that too.

[J. Grant]

Hi,
> WTH..  how is it getting this? something is wrong before this.
>
> Get rid of you old config file (rename it junk or something) and rerun 
> ./tools/wineinstall.   I would like to see the  full log of this.

OK:

Created /home/now3d/.wine/config using default Wine configuration.
You probably want to review the file, though.

Compiling regedit...
make: Nothing to be done for `all'.

Preparing to install default Wine registry entries...
Installing default Wine registry entries...

Could not stat /mnt/fd0 (No such file or directory), ignoring drive A:
Could not stat /cdrom (No such file or directory), ignoring drive D:

From "config"

[Drive A]
"Path" = "/mnt/fd0"
"Type" = "floppy"
"Label" = "Floppy"
"Filesystem" = "win95"
"Serial" = "87654321"
"Device" = "/dev/fd0"

[Drive D]
"Path" = "/cdrom"
"Type" = "cdrom"
"Label" = "CD-Rom"
"Filesystem" = "win95"
; make sure that device is correct and has proper permissions !
"Device" = "/dev/cdrom"

Seems strange that although it said it was ignoring A: and D: it added 
them anyway.
> > ignoring drive C:
> > Could not stat /cdrom (No such file or directory), ignoring drive D:
> > Invalid path L"c:\windows" for L"windows" directory: does not exist
> > Perhaps you have not properly edited or created your Wine configuration
> > file.
> > This is (supposed to be) '/home/now3d/.wine/config'
> > Registry install failed.
> > ###

do you know what the "L" is in that text? I have seen it in other error 
messages but it seems strange... any ideas?

Regards

JG

ps no need to cc me as I am on the wine-devel list now.

[Tony Lambregts]

J. Grant wrote:
> Hi,
> > WTH..  how is it getting this? something is wrong before this.
> >
> > Get rid of you old config file (rename it junk or something) and 
> > rerun ./tools/wineinstall.   I would like to see the  full log of this.
>
> OK:
>
> Created /home/now3d/.wine/config using default Wine configuration.
> You probably want to review the file, though.
>
> Compiling regedit...
> make: Nothing to be done for `all'.
>
> Preparing to install default Wine registry entries...
> Installing default Wine registry entries...
>
> Could not stat /mnt/fd0 (No such file or directory), ignoring drive A:
> Could not stat /cdrom (No such file or directory), ignoring drive D:
>
> From "config"
>
> [Drive A]
> "Path" = "/mnt/fd0"
> "Type" = "floppy"
> "Label" = "Floppy"
> "Filesystem" = "win95"
> "Serial" = "87654321"
> "Device" = "/dev/fd0"
>
> [Drive D]
> "Path" = "/cdrom"
> "Type" = "cdrom"
> "Label" = "CD-Rom"
> "Filesystem" = "win95"
> ; make sure that device is correct and has proper permissions !
> "Device" = "/dev/cdrom"
>
> Seems strange that although it said it was ignoring A: and D: it added 
> them anyway.

No No No. "The default config file contains  has the floppy  located at 
/mnt/fd0 (Where it actualy is depends on your distro) likewise for your 
CD-ROM.  When tools/wineinstall starts up regedit to install the default 
registry it starts up wine. wine reads the config file and cannot find 
those directorys (since thats not where your CD-ROM and floppy are 
mounted) so it ignores them
> > > ignoring drive C:
> > > Could not stat /cdrom (No such file or directory), ignoring drive D:
> > > Invalid path L"c:\windows" for L"windows" directory: does not exist
> > > Perhaps you have not properly edited or created your Wine configuration
> > > file.
> > > This is (supposed to be) '/home/now3d/.wine/config'
> > > Registry install failed.
> > > ###
>
> do you know what the "L" is in that text? I have seen it in other 
> error messages but it seems strange... any ideas?

The "L" tells me that the string is "unicode" as opposed to "ASCII" As 
for why "L" I do not know.
> Regards
>
> JG
>
> ps no need to cc me as I am on the wine-devel list now.

[J. Grant]

Tony Lambregts wrote:
> J. Grant wrote:
> > Hi,
> > > WTH..  how is it getting this? something is wrong before this.
> > >
> > > Get rid of you old config file (rename it junk or something) and 
> > > rerun ./tools/wineinstall.   I would like to see the  full log of this.
> >
> > OK:
> >
> > Created /home/now3d/.wine/config using default Wine configuration.
> > You probably want to review the file, though.
> >
> > Compiling regedit...
> > make: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> >
> > Preparing to install default Wine registry entries...
> > Installing default Wine registry entries...
> >
> > Could not stat /mnt/fd0 (No such file or directory), ignoring drive A:
> > Could not stat /cdrom (No such file or directory), ignoring drive D:
> >
> > From "config"
> >
> > [Drive A]
> > "Path" = "/mnt/fd0"
> > "Type" = "floppy"
> > "Label" = "Floppy"
> > "Filesystem" = "win95"
> > "Serial" = "87654321"
> > "Device" = "/dev/fd0"
> >
> > [Drive D]
> > "Path" = "/cdrom"
> > "Type" = "cdrom"
> > "Label" = "CD-Rom"
> > "Filesystem" = "win95"
> > ; make sure that device is correct and has proper permissions !
> > "Device" = "/dev/cdrom"
> >
> > Seems strange that although it said it was ignoring A: and D: it added 
> > them anyway.
>
> No No No. "The default config file contains  has the floppy  located at 
> /mnt/fd0 (Where it actualy is depends on your distro) likewise for your 
> CD-ROM.  When tools/wineinstall starts up regedit to install the default 
> registry it starts up wine. wine reads the config file and cannot find 
> those directorys (since thats not where your CD-ROM and floppy are 
> mounted) so it ignores them

OK, I understand what ./tools/wineinstall is doing now.  I'm still not
quite sure why A: and D: are not commented out if they are not found.
If the user added a floppy then it could be made available again.  For
me I get the error each time, until I indentify the paths are wrong, then
comment it out myself (or correct them). the fstab should have all the
info to create a working "config" file though I think...

Regards

JG

[Tony Lambregts]

J. Grant wrote:
> Tony Lambregts wrote:
> > J. Grant wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > > WTH..  how is it getting this? something is wrong before this.
> > > >
> > > > Get rid of you old config file (rename it junk or something) and 
> > > > rerun ./tools/wineinstall.   I would like to see the  full log of 
> > > > this.
> > >
> > > OK:
> > >
> > > Created /home/now3d/.wine/config using default Wine configuration.
> > > You probably want to review the file, though.
> > >
> > > Compiling regedit...
> > > make: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> > >
> > > Preparing to install default Wine registry entries...
> > > Installing default Wine registry entries...
> > >
> > > Could not stat /mnt/fd0 (No such file or directory), ignoring drive A:
> > > Could not stat /cdrom (No such file or directory), ignoring drive D:
> > >
> > > From "config"
> > >
> > > [Drive A]
> > > "Path" = "/mnt/fd0"
> > > "Type" = "floppy"
> > > "Label" = "Floppy"
> > > "Filesystem" = "win95"
> > > "Serial" = "87654321"
> > > "Device" = "/dev/fd0"
> > >
> > > [Drive D]
> > > "Path" = "/cdrom"
> > > "Type" = "cdrom"
> > > "Label" = "CD-Rom"
> > > "Filesystem" = "win95"
> > > ; make sure that device is correct and has proper permissions !
> > > "Device" = "/dev/cdrom"
> > >
> > > Seems strange that although it said it was ignoring A: and D: it 
> > > added them anyway.
> >
> > No No No. "The default config file contains  has the floppy  located 
> > at /mnt/fd0 (Where it actualy is depends on your distro) likewise for 
> > your CD-ROM.  When tools/wineinstall starts up regedit to install the 
> > default registry it starts up wine. wine reads the config file and 
> > cannot find those directorys (since thats not where your CD-ROM and 
> > floppy are mounted) so it ignores them
>
> OK, I understand what ./tools/wineinstall is doing now.  I'm still not
> quite sure why A: and D: are not commented out if they are not found.
> If the user added a floppy then it could be made available again.  For
> me I get the error each time, until I indentify the paths are wrong, then
> comment it out myself (or correct them). the fstab should have all the
> info to create a working "config" file though I think...

tools/wineinstall calls tools/wineconf if you are making a "wine with 
windows" installation. On my system this sets up the config file with 
the correct setup for my cd-rom but not my floppy. For some reason this 
is not done at all on a "wine without windows" install.

Do ya wana fix it or start a bug report.

[J. Grant]

Hi,

This looks like a good thing to setup the locale etc.  However, I have
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, so perhaps it should have selected en_GB in this
process. It started doing this when I ran wcmd for the first time after
installing.

Regards

JG

$ wcmd
Could not stat /mnt/fd0 (No such file or directory), ignoring drive A:
Could not stat /cdrom (No such file or directory), ignoring drive D:
For language 'en' several language ids were found:
en_US - 0409; en_GB - 0809; en_AU - 0C09; en_CA - 1009; en_NZ - 1409;
en_IE - 1809; en_ZA - 1C09; en_JM - 2009; en_CB - 2409; en_BZ - 2809;
en_TT - 2C09; en_ZW - 3009; en_PH - 3409;
Instead of using first in the list, suggest to define
your LANG environment variable like this: LANG=en_US
Building font metrics. This may take some time...

[Sylvain Petreolle]

am I forbidden to call my dog 'ms-dos' ?
> Well to be case correct "Wine". I think this is a holdover from when 
> wine "needed windows" so the drive would be "MS-DOS" as oppossed to 
> "*nix" The label is irrelavant to wine but.(ahem) isn't "MS-DOS" a
> (tm). 
> Anyways changing it would not hurt any objections or other
> suggestions?

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