Re: shdocvw #3: Set default home and search page.

[Aric Stewart]

I see that the native shdocvw sets neither the Start page nor the Search 
page when registered. This patch forces the users home page to initially 
be www.winehq.com which can be confusing to IE users who are expecting 
the normal default of msn.com

While amusing I do not think this is correct.
-aric

Jacek Caban wrote:
> dlls/hlink/tests/hlink.c |    4 ----
>  dlls/shdocvw/shdocvw.inf |   12 +++++++++---
>  2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)

shdocvw #3: Set default home and search page.

[Steven Edwards]

On Dec 3, 2007 11:33 PM, Aric Stewart  wrote:
> While amusing I do not think this is correct.

Plenty of OEM's change the default IE home page, and we should make it
easy to do so in Wine. I think a edit box in winecfg is the best route
to go with the default option being about:blank or www.winehq.org

Thanks

shdocvw #3: Set default home and search page.

[Aric Stewart]

Do we consider wine to be an OEM or a reimplementation of the base 
windows? Setting the homepage is easy enough it is just a registry key. 
However it is not something set when registering shdocvw.dll so i dont 
think we should set it there.  As a config option in winecfg sure.

-aric

Steven Edwards wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2007 11:33 PM, Aric Stewart  wrote:
> > While amusing I do not think this is correct.
>
> Plenty of OEM's change the default IE home page, and we should make it
> easy to do so in Wine. I think a edit box in winecfg is the best route
> to go with the default option being about:blank or www.winehq.org
>
> Thanks

shdocvw #3: Set default home and search page.

[Steven Edwards]

On Dec 4, 2007 5:56 AM, Aric Stewart  wrote:
> Do we consider wine to be an OEM or a reimplementation of the base
> windows? Setting the homepage is easy enough it is just a registry key.
> However it is not something set when registering shdocvw.dll so i dont
> think we should set it there.  As a config option in winecfg sure.

Distributors of Wine can be OEM's so they need the ability to change
it. OEM's of course can tweak the registry before packaging. IE
provides the ablity to change this setting of course for the user  but
the built in iexplore does not so until its further developed, I think
we need the option for users to change it in winecfg. I'll try to
write a patch in the next day or so that adds this functionality to
winecfg.

shdocvw #3: Set default home and search page.

[Aric Stewart]

True, making it something for wine.inf or for winecfg, but not 
shdocvw.dll in my opinion.

-aric

Steven Edwards wrote:
> On Dec 4, 2007 5:56 AM, Aric Stewart  wrote:
> > Do we consider wine to be an OEM or a reimplementation of the base
> > windows? Setting the homepage is easy enough it is just a registry key.
> > However it is not something set when registering shdocvw.dll so i dont
> > think we should set it there.  As a config option in winecfg sure.
>
> Distributors of Wine can be OEM's so they need the ability to change
> it. OEM's of course can tweak the registry before packaging. IE
> provides the ablity to change this setting of course for the user  but
> the built in iexplore does not so until its further developed, I think
> we need the option for users to change it in winecfg. I'll try to
> write a patch in the next day or so that adds this functionality to
> winecfg.

shdocvw #3: Set default home and search page.

[Jacek Caban]

Aric Stewart wrote:
> True, making it something for wine.inf or for winecfg, but not 
> shdocvw.dll in my opinion.

Native shdocvw.dll doesn't support self registration at all and its
registration is done by IE installer IMO. If we want to be compatible
with native, we'd have to move everything from shdocvw.inf to wine.inf
(and that's not the way to go IMO). I've added these registries because
an app I've been working on expected default search page to be present.
Also we should use it in our InternetExplorer and WebBrowser
implementation. We may consider to handle these keys like we do with IE
version key. That is, they may be added on iexplore.exe registration. If
one wants to install native IE, he has to unregister iexplore.exe first,
removing the homepage. Then IE installer will probably set its default
homepage.

Jacek

shdocvw #3: Set default home and search page.

[Aric Stewart]

Humm, maybe i am confused but (at least the win98 version of ) 
shdocvw.dll implements DllRegisterServer which seems to do a lot of 
stuff.  But Setting the Start Page is not one of them.  In my experience 
installing IE does not actually set a Start Page by default, but instead 
the browser seem to handle not having a Start Page by pulling up a 
default one.

-aric

Jacek Caban wrote:
> Aric Stewart wrote:
> > True, making it something for wine.inf or for winecfg, but not 
> > shdocvw.dll in my opinion.
>
> Native shdocvw.dll doesn't support self registration at all and its
> registration is done by IE installer IMO. If we want to be compatible
> with native, we'd have to move everything from shdocvw.inf to wine.inf
> (and that's not the way to go IMO). I've added these registries because
> an app I've been working on expected default search page to be present.
> Also we should use it in our InternetExplorer and WebBrowser
> implementation. We may consider to handle these keys like we do with IE
> version key. That is, they may be added on iexplore.exe registration. If
> one wants to install native IE, he has to unregister iexplore.exe first,
> removing the homepage. Then IE installer will probably set its default
> homepage.
>
> Jacek

shdocvw #3: Set default home and search page.

[Jacek Caban]

Aric Stewart wrote:
> Humm, maybe i am confused but (at least the win98 version of )
> shdocvw.dll implements DllRegisterServer which seems to do a lot of
> stuff.  But Setting the Start Page is not one of them.  In my
> experience installing IE does not actually set a Start Page by
> default, but instead the browser seem to handle not having a Start
> Page by pulling up a default one.

I've checked it again and it looks like shdocvw registers only its
typelib, nothing else like coclasses. I will do more testing later today.

Jacek

shdocvw #3: Set default home and search page.

[Aric Stewart]

Other side effect of the new code in shdocvw.inf  is that it causes the 
path in Internet Explorer shortcuts to be created incorrectly and 
invalidly making IE unable to launch from its link file.

I would suggest all that IE registration stuff go into our iexplore.exe 
instead of shdocvw.dll.
Either that or we move the registration of shdocvw.dll into win2000 
bottles only where IE does not install anyway.  But to be correct to 
windows i feel like none of that extra registration code should be there.

-aric

Jacek Caban wrote:
> Aric Stewart wrote:
> > Humm, maybe i am confused but (at least the win98 version of )
> > shdocvw.dll implements DllRegisterServer which seems to do a lot of
> > stuff.  But Setting the Start Page is not one of them.  In my
> > experience installing IE does not actually set a Start Page by
> > default, but instead the browser seem to handle not having a Start
> > Page by pulling up a default one.
>
> I've checked it again and it looks like shdocvw registers only its
> typelib, nothing else like coclasses. I will do more testing later today.
>
> Jacek