comctl32.dll and commctrl.dll

[Dripple]

Hi all,

I'm a newbie in wine using and wine developpement. I just need
information about comctl32.dll and commctrl.dll.

I'm trying to have this app
(http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=1485&versionId=2451) working.
In fact, it works. But only using native comctl32.dll, which requires
native commctrl.dll.

Can anybody explain me what's missing in buitlin comctl32.dll and/or
commctrl.dll ?

Is it planned to fix commctrl.dll, to avoid piracy ?

Thanks.

Dripple

[Rob Shearman]

Dripple wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm a newbie in wine using and wine developpement. I just need
> information about comctl32.dll and commctrl.dll.
>
> I'm trying to have this app
> (http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=1485&versionId=2451) working.
> In fact, it works. But only using native comctl32.dll, which requires
> native commctrl.dll.
>
> Can anybody explain me what's missing in buitlin comctl32.dll and/or
> commctrl.dll ?

Why don't you tell us? You have obviously tried to run the app with 
builtin comctl32. Does it crash? Does it draw incorrectly? Does it hang?
> Is it planned to fix commctrl.dll, to avoid piracy ?

You probably shouldn't admit to copyright infringement on a public 
mailing list.

Rob

[Holly Bostick]

Rob Shearman wrote:
> Dripple wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm a newbie in wine using and wine developpement. I just need
> > information about comctl32.dll and commctrl.dll.
> >
> > I'm trying to have this app
> > (http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=1485&versionId=2451) working.
> > In fact, it works. But only using native comctl32.dll, which requires
> > native commctrl.dll.

<snip>
> > Is it planned to fix commctrl.dll, to avoid piracy ?
>
> You probably shouldn't admit to copyright infringement on a public 
> mailing list.
>
> Rob

I think you're jumping to conclusions, Rob; here's the info on the 
program (from the link)

Description
Full up-to-date collection of the Watchtower Bible & Tracts Society 
publications ,including full text of the Bible(very precise "New World 
Translation of the Hebrew & Greek Scriptures") with links,also 2-Volume 
"Insight on the Scriptures" -- full encyclopedia of all biblical terms 
and names,all equipped with full-featured search engine.A powerful tool 
for Bible study.(Freely distributed by Jehovah's Wittnesses,no URL 
available)

So the program itself appears to be free (libre), even if there's no 
website to actually get it from ;-) . Now, naturally what is not freely 
distributable is comctrl.dll, but there's no indication that the OP 
doesn't have a Windows licence and if Dripple does have such a license, 
there's no piracy involved, afaik. I have a Win98 licence, insofar as I 
have a retail copy of Win98 that I bought 5 years ago-- I can copy the 
comctrl.dll that is on that disk to my Wine installation without 
breaking any laws, can't I? (Please tell me if not, so I won't do it 
again ;-) ).

Holly

[Dripple]

I do agree with you... The point is I'd love to write a how-to run this 
app without any windiws license. Which does not mean I do not have a 
legal license here... ;-)

Holly Bostick a écrit :
> Rob Shearman wrote:
> > Dripple wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm a newbie in wine using and wine developpement. I just need
> > > information about comctl32.dll and commctrl.dll.
> > >
> > > I'm trying to have this app
> > > (http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=1485&versionId=2451) working.
> > > In fact, it works. But only using native comctl32.dll, which requires
> > > native commctrl.dll.
>
> <snip>
> > > Is it planned to fix commctrl.dll, to avoid piracy ?
> >
> > You probably shouldn't admit to copyright infringement on a public 
> > mailing list.
> >
> > Rob
>
> I think you're jumping to conclusions, Rob; here's the info on the 
> program (from the link)
>
> Description
> Full up-to-date collection of the Watchtower Bible & Tracts Society 
> publications ,including full text of the Bible(very precise "New World 
> Translation of the Hebrew & Greek Scriptures") with links,also 2-Volume 
> "Insight on the Scriptures" -- full encyclopedia of all biblical terms 
> and names,all equipped with full-featured search engine.A powerful tool 
> for Bible study.(Freely distributed by Jehovah's Wittnesses,no URL 
> available)
>
> So the program itself appears to be free (libre), even if there's no 
> website to actually get it from ;-) . Now, naturally what is not freely 
> distributable is comctrl.dll, but there's no indication that the OP 
> doesn't have a Windows licence and if Dripple does have such a license, 
> there's no piracy involved, afaik. I have a Win98 licence, insofar as I 
> have a retail copy of Win98 that I bought 5 years ago-- I can copy the 
> comctrl.dll that is on that disk to my Wine installation without 
> breaking any laws, can't I? (Please tell me if not, so I won't do it 
> again ;-) ).
>
> Holly

[Mike Hearn]

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:11:01 +0100, Dripple wrote:
> I do agree with you... The point is I'd love to write a how-to run this 
> app without any windiws license. Which does not mean I do not have a 
> legal license here... ;-)

Ideally what we need is not more HOWTOs, but rather to fix the bugs in our
widget toolkit so you don't need to do anything special, it should just
work.

comctl32 is *really* close these days. I hardly ever run with native
anymore, sure there are bugs and the rebar control is pretty b0rked, and I
guess Rob needs to go look at the toolbar regression before we get dragged
back to COM work but these days it's so nearly there!

[Robert Shearman]

Mike Hearn wrote:
> comctl32 is *really* close these days. I hardly ever run with native
> anymore, sure there are bugs and the rebar control is pretty b0rked, and I
> guess Rob needs to go look at the toolbar regression before we get dragged
> back to COM work but these days it's so nearly there!

What toolbar regression? There is no toolbar regression. There never 
will be any toolbar regressions.

Seriously, I think the regression you are thinking of wasn't caused by 
the toolbar code. But if anyone else knows of any visual or other bugs 
in the toolbar code, please let me know as I'm eager to finish the code 
off there.

Rob

[Mike Hearn]

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:51:02 -0600, Robert Shearman wrote:
> What toolbar regression? There is no toolbar regression. There never 
> will be any toolbar regressions.

*blink* *blink*

There is no toolbar regression.

These are not the regressions we're looking for.

You can go about your business. Move along.

*blink*

[Dripple]

OK, but I'm no Wine developper. I just posted here to have the point of 
view of Wine's developpers. and I'm really glad that comctl32 is close...

If I can not contribute as a developper, maybe can I help with patched 
source. Would it help in any way ?

Mike Hearn a écrit :
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:11:01 +0100, Dripple wrote:
>
> Ideally what we need is not more HOWTOs, but rather to fix the bugs in our
> widget toolkit so you don't need to do anything special, it should just
> work.
>
> comctl32 is *really* close these days. I hardly ever run with native
> anymore, sure there are bugs and the rebar control is pretty b0rked, and I
> guess Rob needs to go look at the toolbar regression before we get dragged
> back to COM work but these days it's so nearly there!