That's a different issue. Of course, most of the items that you cover (mainly threads of discussion in wine-devel) have no business as News items.
Right. I agree that WWN serves a completely different purpose than a News feed would. And I agree that a separate News feed would be useful.
it. And that is as it should be, it's one thing to post a Headline news on Monday saying Mon Apr, 1: Wine 20030401 is out [link] - kernel/ntdll separation complete
That's a terrible example to use since Jeremy has done a great job of always having the latest CVS drop on the front page. If you're talking of consolidating the "Latest Release" and "News" headings, then I really don't care. I think one of the primary goals of WineHQ should be to put the software into the hands of users, and anything that makes that easier furthers the goal. Separating out the "Latest Release" and having two different download pages for "Binaries" and "Source" seems to do that. It definitely draws attention to getting the software.
I think what you're getting at for news is we could (and should) announce things like:
http://www.franksworld.net/wgm/
Hopefully in the future there will be more things like that.
However, I'm definitely against announcing things like this:
http://www.codeweavers.com/about/press_releases/?id=20030113 http://www.lindows.com/lindows_michaelsminutes_archives.php?id=4 http://www.xandros.com/release6.html
None specifically mentions "Wine", however that's clearly behind their product. So at what point do you draw the line? Trust me, it's a pain in the ass to figure out. For WWN I'd rather err on the side of covering anything vaguely related to Wine, for the front page of WineHQ I don't think you want things like that, nor do you want to pick and choose what press releases get added.
However, to confuse things, I think things like this definitely qualify as news:
http://www.musicmatch.com/info/company/press/releases/?year=2001&release...
So maybe here's the rule: if the primary business of your company is Wine development (TG, CW), or Wine is a core technology (Lindows.com) the most press you're going to get on WineHQ is from WWN. However, if you've utilized Wine to some how add value to a new or existing product then we'll announce it on the front page, at least the initial release. Just putting the word "Wine" in your press release doesn't count either way.
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On March 22, 2003 12:11 pm, Brian Vincent (C) wrote:
That's a terrible example to use since Jeremy has done a great job of always having the latest CVS drop on the front page.
Oh, he does indeed, all I meant to say is that Wine releases are worthy headline news, and if we are to have a "Latest news" box, than we can do away with the "Latest Release". BTW, a headline news announcement may work better than the current "Latest Release" box: it will have a clear date, the "WHAT'S NEW" will be immediately visible (as a matter of fact, I figured only last Friday that clicking on the release name gives you the ANNOUNCEMENT file!), and we can make it a lot more fun (like nicknaming some releases, etc.). But this is really besides the point, sorry for the big parenthesis.
I think what you're getting at for news is we could (and should) announce things like:
Yes!
Hopefully in the future there will be more things like that.
However, I'm definitely against announcing things like this:
http://www.codeweavers.com/about/press_releases/?id=20030113 http://www.lindows.com/lindows_michaelsminutes_archives.php?id=4 http://www.xandros.com/release6.html
Correct. However, I was referring to new releases of CrossOffice, CrossOver Plugin, WineX, etc. Which I hope you agree they fit in very nicely.
I don't think you want things like that, nor do you want to pick and choose what press releases get added.
Of course you want to pick and choose, any good news source does that. The other alternatives are no headlines (bad IMO) or too much noise (equally bad). We should not be afraid of picking and choosing. You do that for WWN, and you do an excellent job.
Anyhow, we are now starting to discuss policy about what goes in the headlines. This is an entirely different issue, and I don't think we need "official" policy, just someone with common sense. :) However, before we start discussing this, we need to see if we're getting such a box, I feel a bit like Don Quixote here... :/
On Sun, Mar 23, 2003 at 12:21:04AM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
Correct. However, I was referring to new releases of CrossOffice, CrossOver Plugin, WineX, etc. Which I hope you agree they fit in very nicely.
Some months ago, I proposed that I'd like to see these announcements on the wine-announce mailing list, but it did look like there was no real interest.
Ciao Jörg
-- Joerg Mayer jmayer@loplof.de We are stuck with technology when what we really want ist just stuff that works. Some say that should read Microsoft instead of technology.
On March 23, 2003 06:32 am, Joerg Mayer wrote:
Some months ago, I proposed that I'd like to see these announcements on the wine-announce mailing list, but it did look like there was no real interest.
How many people are subscribed to wine-announce? I'm not. We need to reach a wider audience, and that can not happen on such a list. We need this kind of information on the front page.
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