On Sunday 30 July 2006 7:45 am, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes wrote:
The patch is the same; I would just like to point out that this change has been discusses, and there were no objections to it.
Change 'vendor' to 'developer'. Variable names are not changed, so this patch should not cause any trouble.
Lørdag 29 juli 2006 15:49, skrev killertux killertux:
-I and Tony Lambergs decided half year ago that "Vendor" == "Developper"
-adding Distributor and Publisher will make things harder and it's useless since appdb is for testing info therefore we are interested about developper.
-anyway Vendor can be also [Freeware], [Open Source Software], [Shareware] but I am not so happy reading licence agreements.
-I think we should rename "Vendor" to "Developper"
I'd prefer we switched 'Vendor' to "Company". Company is simplier and in more common usage and its likely that people will look at the box, see a company name and be able to match it to this field. They won't have any idea about publisher, vendor, distributor or developer, they'll just pick the biggest name other than the name of the program and likely go with that.
Also, if everyone wants to make this change and is serious about it then we should also rename the database columns and fix up the sql as well to keep these names in sync, otherwise people maintaining the appdb code will somehow have to know that each instance of 'vendor' is really something else like 'x'.
Chris
Søndag 30 juli 2006 18:49, skrev du :
On Sunday 30 July 2006 7:45 am, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes wrote:
The patch is the same; I would just like to point out that this change has been discusses, and there were no objections to it.
Change 'vendor' to 'developer'. Variable names are not changed, so this patch should not cause any trouble.
Lørdag 29 juli 2006 15:49, skrev killertux killertux:
-I and Tony Lambergs decided half year ago that "Vendor" == "Developper"
-adding Distributor and Publisher will make things harder and it's useless since appdb is for testing info therefore we are interested about developper.
-anyway Vendor can be also [Freeware], [Open Source Software], [Shareware] but I am not so happy reading licence agreements.
-I think we should rename "Vendor" to "Developper"
I'd prefer we switched 'Vendor' to "Company". Company is simplier and in more common usage and its likely that people will look at the box, see a company name and be able to match it to this field. They won't have any idea about publisher, vendor, distributor or developer, they'll just pick the biggest name other than the name of the program and likely go with that.
Also, if everyone wants to make this change and is serious about it then we should also rename the database columns and fix up the sql as well to keep these names in sync, otherwise people maintaining the appdb code will somehow have to know that each instance of 'vendor' is really something else like 'x'.
Chris
The term 'company' is ambiguous, as it would depend on which company a user associates with a game. For games like Battlefield, many would associate 'company' with the distributor, as EA has its large logo slammed on every game, but with for example Doom 3, 'company' would be the developer, as the id Software logo is dominating. Most people, however, know the difference, at least those who submit applications to the database. Besides, the publisher and distributor could change (i.e. companies merge and buy each other); the developer, however, will always be the same. The AppDB's purpose is to help people get applications running with WIne. If you write to Ubi Soft asking about the networking code in Warlods Battlecry II, for example, you would probably get an autoresponder or no reply at all, but if you write to the developer, chances are you will get the information you need.
Regards,
Alexander N. Sørnes
On 7/30/06, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes alex@thehandofagony.com wrote:
Søndag 30 juli 2006 18:49, skrev du :
On Sunday 30 July 2006 7:45 am, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes wrote:
The patch is the same; I would just like to point out that this change has been discusses, and there were no objections to it.
Change 'vendor' to 'developer'. Variable names are not changed, so this patch should not cause any trouble.
Lørdag 29 juli 2006 15:49, skrev killertux killertux:
-I and Tony Lambergs decided half year ago that "Vendor" == "Developper"
-adding Distributor and Publisher will make things harder and it's useless since appdb is for testing info therefore we are interested about developper.
-anyway Vendor can be also [Freeware], [Open Source Software], [Shareware] but I am not so happy reading licence agreements.
-I think we should rename "Vendor" to "Developper"
I'd prefer we switched 'Vendor' to "Company". Company is simplier and in more common usage and its likely that people will look at the box, see a company name and be able to match it to this field. They won't have any idea about publisher, vendor, distributor or developer, they'll just pick the biggest name other than the name of the program and likely go with that.
Also, if everyone wants to make this change and is serious about it then we should also rename the database columns and fix up the sql as well to keep these names in sync, otherwise people maintaining the appdb code will somehow have to know that each instance of 'vendor' is really something else like 'x'.
Chris
The term 'company' is ambiguous, as it would depend on which company a user associates with a game. For games like Battlefield, many would associate 'company' with the distributor, as EA has its large logo slammed on every game, but with for example Doom 3, 'company' would be the developer, as the id Software logo is dominating. Most people, however, know the difference, at least those who submit applications to the database. Besides, the publisher and distributor could change (i.e. companies merge and buy each other); the developer, however, will always be the same. The AppDB's purpose is to help people get applications running with WIne. If you write to Ubi Soft asking about the networking code in Warlods Battlecry II, for example, you would probably get an autoresponder or no reply at all, but if you write to the developer, chances are you will get the information you need.
Regards,
Alexander N. Sørnes
I'm not sure I see the value of differentiating between developer or publisher. If the box says "EA" then how does it help or hurt us to not list "EA" as the vendor or company of a given application? The average person doesn't know the difference between vendor, developer or publisher but 'company' is a very common word.
Chris
I think someone has to clarify what the purpose of this vendor/company/developer piece of information for a given application is. Do we just want something that is unambiguous and easy to fill in, or do we want information that might help get better support under WINE for a particular application. Maybe we want to show who owns the copyrights to a given application, or under what license the application is released. Maybe we even need more than one information field associated with an application...
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