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Application Database RFC
by Tony Lambregts 04 May '02

04 May '02

I have done a lot of thinking about the Application Database http://appdb.codeweavers.com lately and how the rating system works. We currently have 848 Applications in there but only 58 with a 5 star rating which works out to less than 10% and thats the good news. The bad news is that of those 58 only 26 rate that without windows installed. After takeing a closer look, none of the apps I looked at actualy rated 5 star by my way of judging. Now maybe I'm overly critical but in my way of thinking If the app doesn't install in wine then it shouldn't get a 5. IMHO We need to set criteria that give us a better/less subjective way of measuring how well we are doing. So this is what I have come up with. 1. Installation (total possible 2) Installs in wine with fake windows 2 points Installs in wine with windows mounted 1 point Does not install in wine 0 points 2. Running & DLLS (total possible 2) Runs fine using all builtin dlls 2 points Runs fine using native dlls 1 point Does not run/crashes on startup 0 points 3 Running general (total possible 2) program does not crash ever 2 points Program crashes only after long use or rare aspect used 1 point program crashes on startup or doing common function 0 points 4. Screen Presentation/layout (total possible 2) App looks exactly like it should 2 points Small problems that do not affect working with app 1 point App is unusable because of display problems 0 points 5. Fonts (total possible 2) Fonts look exacty right 2 points Fonts not exactly right but acceptable 1 point Fonts unreadable or totaly wrong. 0 points 6. Mouse (total possible 2) Mouse behaves as expected 2 points Mouse behaves strange but can still use app 1 point Mouse behaves badly and is unusable 0 points 7. Keyboard (total possible 2) Keyboard reacts as expected. 2 points Some keys/key combinations dont work but most do. 1 point Keyboard locks up or unresposive 0 points 8. Files save/restore (total possible 2) Able to save and restore files without any problems 2 points Can save and restore files but have problems 1 points Cannot save or restore files 0 points 9. Sound (total possible 2) Not applicable Sound is correct 2 points sound is ok most of the time but has minor glichs 1 point Sound is garbled or missing 0 points 10.Joystick/gamepad (total possible 2) Not applicable joystick/gamepad works correctly 2 points joystick/gamepad have problems but mostly work 1 point joystick/gamepad unresponsive 0 points 11.Registy/rememberd state (total possible 2) Not applicable Program remembers key settings from one session to next 2 points Program remembers most settings but not all 1 point program does not remember most settings at all 0 points 12. Date tested. Verison of wine used Each of the sections should have a comment field and a place to enter a url to a bug report if applicable Applications could be scored based as a percentage. Applications that use all critera would need all 22 points to get a 100% rating. For other applications some of these criteria are not applicable and their score would use a lower base score. Idealy we would be able to look at the AppDB and list all programs that have problems with any of the criteria Probably the most usefull aspect of this is that it gives users and developers a real way of measuring how well wine really is doing and where problems that affect the most programs are. I have cross posted this because I think this is important to both users and developers. Any comments, criticisims or helpfull suggestions welcome Tony Lambregts

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Re: xrender patch
by Duane Clark 04 May '02

04 May '02

Jeremey White wrote: >> That does fix it, though I was getting used to the client side fonts :( >> What version of XFree86 is needed to get a good xrender? I am running >> version 4.1.0. > > You need 4.2.0. You can also just build libXrender.so, > which is not that hard to pull out of CVS and build by itself. > It turns out that two other applications (that worked prior to 4/23) fail even with the Huw patch that disables xrender. They give: err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x40b724a4 "x11drv_main.c: X11DRV_CritSection" wait timed out, retrying (60 sec) fs=023f err:ntdll:RtlpWaitForCriticalSection section 0x407a9718 "user.c: USER_SysLevel" wait timed out, retrying (60 sec) fs=008f wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger... But I never actually get a debugger prompt, so I don't have more info then that. In any case, I just downloaded the binary tar file: http://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/binaries/Linux-ix86-glibc22/Xbin.t… and took out just the libXrender.so.1.1, and installed it. Everything seems to work fine with that.

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RE: FW: PATCH - check for ftruncate/fix for makedep when missing ftruncate (mingw)
by Steven Edwards 04 May '02

04 May '02

> Steven, > > patches should go to wine-patches prefered. > Yes I know, I have had auto compleate on and sometimes my mailing lists get mixed up. I will keep a closer eye on where/when my stuff gets sent out so theres not so much noise. Thanks Steven

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Send PATCH - check for ftruncate/fix for makedep when missing ftruncate (mingw) to /dev/null
by Steven Edwards 03 May '02

03 May '02

I hit send when I was trying to save. I will be sending the new patch tonight. Thanks Steven "Every revolution was once a thought in one man's mind" - Ralph Waldo Emerson > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Edwards [mailto:Steven_Ed4153@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 6:53 PM > To: 'wine-devel(a)winehq.com' > Subject: FW: PATCH - check for ftruncate/fix for makedep when > missing ftruncate (mingw) > > > Changelog: More Mingw work. > configure, configure.ac - Configure check for > ftruncate. > configure, configure.ac - Configure check for chsize > port.h - Use chsize instead of ftruncate if present. > port.h - Disable use of HAVE_PREAD and > HAVE_WRIT on Mingw > makedep.c - patch to use port.h > > Fix to disable > > "Every revolution was once a thought in one man's mind" > - Ralph Waldo Emerson >

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FW: PATCH - check for ftruncate/fix for makedep when missing ftruncate (mingw)
by Steven Edwards 03 May '02

03 May '02

Changelog: More Mingw work. configure, configure.ac - Configure check for ftruncate. configure, configure.ac - Configure check for chsize port.h - Use chsize instead of ftruncate if present. port.h - Disable use of HAVE_PREAD and HAVE_WRIT on Mingw makedep.c - patch to use port.h Fix to disable "Every revolution was once a thought in one man's mind" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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RE: fix brainfade
by Medland, Bill 03 May '02

03 May '02

Alexandre Yes, go with Francois' Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: Francois Gouget [mailto:fgouget@free.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 3:27 PM > To: Wine patches (E-mail) > Subject: Re: fix brainfade > > > > Or (but mine may have space/tab problems): > > Index: wine/dlls/comctl32/status.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/wine/wine/dlls/comctl32/status.c,v > retrieving revision 1.43 > diff -u -r1.43 status.c > --- wine/dlls/comctl32/status.c 29 Apr 2002 17:12:01 -0000 1.43 > +++ wine/dlls/comctl32/status.c 1 May 2002 21:03:46 -0000 > @@ -636,7 +636,7 @@ > if (nPart == 0x00ff) { > part = &infoPtr->part0; > } else { > - if (infoPtr->parts && (nPart < 0 || nPart >= > infoPtr->numParts)) { > + if (infoPtr->parts && nPart >= 0 && nPart < > infoPtr->numParts)) { > part = &infoPtr->parts[nPart]; > } > } > > > > -- > Francois Gouget fgouget(a)free.fr http://fgouget.free.fr/ > The greatest programming project of all took six days; on > the seventh day the > programmer rested. We've been trying to debug the *&^%$#@ > thing ever since. > Moral: design before you implement. > > >

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correction
by Dustin Navea 03 May '02

03 May '02

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gone for the weekend
by Dustin Navea 03 May '02

03 May '02

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Re: Undeliverable Messages
by gboutwel 03 May '02

03 May '02

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Re: Message Undeliverable
by Sylvain Petreolle 03 May '02

03 May '02

Am i the only one that gets these message since today morning ? I sent a mail to Douglas Ridgway, but he hasn't probably seen it. --- postmaster(a)www.praize.com a écrit : > Disk Quota exceeded. > > Message Headers: > > Return-Path: <wine-devel-admin(a)winehq.com> > Received: from admin.praize.com (root@localhost) > by praize.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id > g438pBf16987 > for <gboutwel(a)praize.com>; Fri, 3 May 2002 02:51:11 > -0600 > X-ClientAddr: 207.1.200.18 > Received: from wine.codeweavers.com > (www.codeweavers.com [207.1.200.18]) > by admin.praize.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id > g438pBn16983 > for <gboutwel(a)praize.com>; Fri, 3 May 2002 02:51:11 > -0600 > Received: from localhost.localdomain (wine > [127.0.0.1]) > by wine.codeweavers.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP > id g438hJx15330; > Fri, 3 May 2002 03:43:19 -0500 > Received: from web10107.mail.yahoo.com > (web10107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.57]) > by wine.codeweavers.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP > id g438gKx15277 > for <wine-devel(a)winehq.com>; Fri, 3 May 2002 > 03:42:20 -0500 > Message-ID: > <20020503084217.19481.qmail(a)web10107.mail.yahoo.com> > Received: from [212.129.3.32] by > web10107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 03 May 2002 > 10:42:17 CEST > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Sylvain=20Petreolle?= > <spetreolle(a)yahoo.fr> > Subject: Developers-hints update > To: wined <wine-devel(a)winehq.com> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; > boundary="0-1863569578-1020415337=:19454" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Sender: wine-devel-admin(a)winehq.com > Errors-To: wine-devel-admin(a)winehq.com > X-BeenThere: wine-devel(a)winehq.com > X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 > Precedence: bulk > List-Help: > <mailto:wine-devel-request@winehq.com?subject=help> > List-Post: <mailto:wine-devel@winehq.com> > List-Subscribe: > <http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-devel>, > > <mailto:wine-devel-request@winehq.com?subject=subscribe> > List-Id: Wine Developer's List > <wine-devel.winehq.com> > List-Unsubscribe: > <http://www.winehq.com/mailman/listinfo/wine-devel>, > > <mailto:wine-devel-request@winehq.com?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: > <http://www.winehq.com/hypermail/wine-devel/> > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:42:17 +0200 (CEST) > Status: > > ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com

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