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RE: Winebuild on Windows
by Patrik Stridvall 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

> Patrik Stridvall <ps(a)leissner.se> writes: > > > * tools/winebuild/build.h, > > tools/winebuild/parser.c, > > tools/winebuild/relay.c, > > tools/winebuild/res16.c, > > tools/winebuild/res32.c: > > Fixed some more of the issues that prevented > > Winebuild from working under Windows. > > Why do you need to build .spec.c files on Windows? Well, the .def file that winebuild generates have references to stubs that are implemented in the .spec.c. This could of course be fixed by a simple if statement somewhere, I guess. However I'm not sure that there aren't other things that might be needeed so I generated and compiled .spec.c just in case. > All you should > need is a .def file, In any case the first part of the patch (winebuild.diff) is needed even to generate the .def file so please apply that regardless. > and maybe a small hack for the debug channels > declarations. Yes. But that could just as well be done in .spec.c like on Unix couldn't it? However I understand if you think winebuild2.diff is a little hacky. I'm not 100% satisfied with it myself. So what do you suggest? Is the debug channels really the only problem?

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More dumb regression questions
by Geoffrey Hausheer 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

How do I run a wine perl regression test in Windows? I thought the entire point was to make it so you don't need a c-compiler, yet I can't seem to get the tests to run without the winetest application (which I've been unable to build on windows so far). Is it planned that this executable be distributed with wine, or am I missing something else? Ideally, I'd like to be able to get just the tests and required apps through cvs (or even a .zip file), and run them. If this is possible today, it isn't obvious (to me) how to do it. Sorry if this is documented somewhere, but I checked Francois' presentation, and the huge thread in January, and didn't find anything about it. If you want to convince people to help write tests, it'd sure be nice if it was easy to find information about how to do it :) .Geoff ----------------------------------------------------- Protect yourself from spam, use http://sneakemail.com

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sandbox for regression tests
by Geoffrey Hausheer 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Hello everyone, I was considering writing a few regression tests for wine, and after reading Francois' presentation, I thought perhaps a File I/O would be a good one to implement (especially since he mentions CreeateFile). So I began thinking about how to go about it, which led me to the following... Has any thought been given to creating a sandbox for regression tests? For instance, let's look at creating a test for File I/O. This requires creating/deleting files/directries, the ability to locate files, etc. But I don't see anything in the framework that lets me do this portably on all systems. In wine, I can't gaurantee that the test directory (which I could probably write to) is mapped to a Windows drive. On all platformes, I don't see how I can write to an arbitrary location on C:, since it may be unwriteable, and even if it's not, people probably don't want extraneous wine stuff littered around their drive when something goes wrong. I'm now thinking I'll try something more straight-forward as my first attempt, but this type of test seems like it'd be very useful, and I don't see how to do it with today's infrastructure. Ideas? Thanks, .Geoff ----------------------------------------------------- Protect yourself from spam, use http://sneakemail.com

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winver & managed question
by Lonnie Cumberland 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Hello All, I have just been reading the docs on Wine and came across the --managed Allow the window manager to manage created windows --winver Version to imitate (win95,nt40,win31,nt2k,win98,nt351,win30,win20) Does the "--managed" allow my xserver to take care of the windows? Also, if I set "--winver nt2k" then does this mean that Wine will look for the specified directories in my /wine-c directory laid out the way that they actually are specified on a real Windows NT/2000 machine? That would be great if it did. Cheers, Lonnie -- Lonnie Cumberland OutStep Technologies Incorporated EMAIL: Lonnie(a)OutStep.com : Lonnie_Cumberland(a)yahoo.com The Basis Express Virtual Office & Data Backup and Recovery Services URL: http://www.basis-express.com "The Virtual Office without boundaries!!!"

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Native Linux SO libraries
by Lonnie Cumberland 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Hello All, I have recently read in the Wine Docs that native Linux .so libraries can be loaded by wine and I think that this is wonderful. It means to me, if I have read everything correctly, that I can communicate with my linux kernel from within the wine windows environment correct? Also, does some one have an example .so and also an example windows test driver program that I can use to see how this is done? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Lonnie -- Lonnie Cumberland OutStep Technologies Incorporated EMAIL: Lonnie(a)OutStep.com : Lonnie_Cumberland(a)yahoo.com The Basis Express Virtual Office & Data Backup and Recovery Services URL: http://www.basis-express.com "The Virtual Office without boundaries!!!"

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RE: FW: cygwin/wine port
by Steven Edwards 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

> What's the advantage of this? You'd still have to use the wine kernel > right? I'd loe to be able to get a relay trace from an app > running under > windows, but if you still have to use the wine kernel, there > isn't much > advantage is there? Yes, you see the problem and the limitations we currently have. The reason why this isn't 100% possible is because dll separation isn't complete. Have a look at the the internal Wineserver functions and the debugging code that the dlls depend on. This was discussed a little at wineconf. Patrik Stridvall is doing the MS_VC++ port of wine and I'm working on the mingw/cygwin port. Once wine can be built on these platforms it will be easier for us to find/fix WINEisms in the DLL's and work around/fix them. On platforms where we don't need a wineserver this is a bitch. I need to be able to build the wine dlls under mingw for ReactOS. ReactOS uses its own makefile/helper makefile system without GNU autoconf/automake. Rather then import the wine dlls as we have done in the past, hack on them for a while, then fight to merge changes back in, I want to do a clean port to cygwin/mingw that can upgraded independently of the rest of the ReactOS system. This helps us and this helps wine by giving wine another platform to work on and moving ReactOS along. ReactOS has a win32k.sys that provides the kernel mode portion of the NT-like win32 subsystem. What we are lacking on the ReactOS project is the user space side. The wine dlls provide this completion of the win32 subsystem. /* never mind that we don't have windowing working yet =P */ The way we have worked around the bugs in the wine dlls is that we have added support to our NTDLL.DLL for the debugging features of the wine portion of the Win32 subsystem. I don't know if this will work or not because well we don't have windowing working yet. Once DLL separation is complete, there should be nothing left in the DLL's other then the debugging stuff that will cause a issue with portability to any OS. Steven _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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wineconf pictures
by Marcus Meissner 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Hi, I have put up my annotated WineConference 2002 picture collection up on: http://www.lst.de/~mm/sandiego/pictures.html Ciao, Marcus

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Lotus-Notes redrawing
by Martin Kneppe 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

I got a problem using Lotus Ntes where the characters just aren't printed. ( I think it's bug 428) I tried to fix that and found in dlls/user/painting.c if (!hrgnUpdate) /* empty region, clip everything */ { hrgnUpdate = CreateRectRgn( 0, 0, 0, 0 ); } The easiest way for me to get my Notes up again was by changing this to my default-window size e.g. if (!hrgnUpdate) /* empty region, clip everything */ { hrgnUpdate = CreateRectRgn( 0, 0, 700, 700 ); } which is ok for me. So my question is, what is the "right way" to get the redraw working again ? Greets Martin

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Re: stable vs. unstable trees
by rob＠mediasolution.it 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

> Having more regression testing of applications will help us get to 0.9. > If user's can't test one day > becasue they can't compile, that means > less testing. It also means we might lose that user as a >tester all > together. Very true. I'm still running 20010510 because newer ones don't run Lotus Notes anywhere near its level. I do have a CVS tree and every now and then do some testing and checking on it, but surely the completeness of this testing is questionable... Ciao, Rob!

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Preferred patch format
by Warren_Baird＠cimmetry.com 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Hopefully sometime soon I'll start having sparc-solaris patches. Unfortunately I can't get at cvs through the firewall here, so I'll have to submit patches against snapshots. As I see it, there are two options: 1. submit smaller patches periodically between snapshots, but possibly patches made against out-of-date code. 2. submit larger patches every time a new snapshot comes out, including all the changes I've made since the last snapshot. Option 1 has the advantage that I can submit smaller patches, but 2 has the advantage that the patches are more likely to be up-to-date. My inclination is towards option 2, but I thought I would ask on the list and see if there was a preference here... Thanks, Warren

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