Re: Virtual Wineconf?

[André Hentschel]

Am 06.11.20 um 14:22 schrieb Rosanne DiMesio:
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 15:32:36 +0300
> Stefan Dösinger  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Since WineConf this year didn't go anywhere due to the pandemic I'd like to suggest a sort of virtual wineconf via any kind of video chat system.
> >
> > What would it be good for that the mailing list can't do? There are some topics that are easier to discuss in person IMHO, when you know people are listening. One topic of my concern is what to do about GSoC. Having a keynote with a development recap of the past would be a good thing too. Are there other topics of discussion?
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> I think it's an excellent idea.

+1
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Virtual Wineconf?

[Arkadiusz Hiler]

On Fri, Nov 06, 2020 at 03:09:01PM +0100, André Hentschel wrote:
> Am 06.11.20 um 14:22 schrieb Rosanne DiMesio:
> > On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 15:32:36 +0300
> > Stefan Dösinger  wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Since WineConf this year didn't go anywhere due to the pandemic I'd
> > > like to suggest a sort of virtual wineconf via any kind of video
> > > chat system.
> > >
> > > What would it be good for that the mailing list can't do? There are
> > > some topics that are easier to discuss in person IMHO, when you
> > > know people are listening. One topic of my concern is what to do
> > > about GSoC. Having a keynote with a development recap of the past
> > > would be a good thing too. Are there other topics of discussion?
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> >
> > I think it's an excellent idea.
>
> +1
> CCing wineconf list

Hey,

I was co-hosting this year's XDC[0], and I definitely can help with
getting the online wineconf off the ground.

The best thing about a conference is just getting people in the same
place at the same time and having a bunch of presentations serving as a
catalyst for discussions. This doesn't even have to be a
voice-/video-chat.

IMO an IRC channel, possibly with a few bridges, is a good, core mean of
communication for our community. It worked well for XDC, which has
similar attendance. Then we can have a jitsi instance that people can
use for ad-hoc voice/video chats if they really feel like it.

We can also have a voice-/video-chat workshops for all the hot topics
that we know will generate a lot of discussion. We can have them as a
separate track or as a part of the main one, depending on the time
budget.

I can help with:

* hosting jitsi instances for people to dial in for talks, workshops, etc.
   the workshop instance can stream directly which will serve later as a
   VOD

* hosting and streaming the presentation track, possibly on one of the
   established platforms like YouTube. It may not appeal to purists,
   but it's hard to beat their CDNs. I have 1gbps down and 100mbps up
   link + LTE fallback. I will be quite likely able to borrow an UPS
   from a friend.

* handling the live Q&A

But ultimately it's up to you what you would like to see. I am still
fairly new to this community and I have never attended any of the
previous wineconfs.

Let me know what I can help you with.

[0]: https://blog.hiler.eu/xdc-2020/

PS. Sorry for late reply. I had a week off :-)

Virtual Wineconf?

[Stefan Dösinger]

> Am 16.11.2020 um 14:22 schrieb Arkadiusz Hiler :
>
> But ultimately it's up to you what you would like to see. I am still
> fairly new to this community and I have never attended any of the
> previous wineconfs.

My concern is GSoC. Unfortunately I didn't see any other suggestions in this thread yet.

If it comes down to only GSoC then maybe finding a pre-arranged time to chat on IRC would be an easy to organize compromise?

Beyond that I think I can force the issue by removing all project suggestions from https://wiki.winehq.org/Summer_Of_Code under the pretext that (a) they are all stale and (b) don't fit the new smaller format and call for new ideas to be added. If we don't get any within 2 weeks then maybe GSoC is no longer the right thing for us. If we do have ideas we need to come up with ways to get quality applications.

Virtual Wineconf?

[Austin English]

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 6:44 AM Stefan Dösinger 
wrote:
> > Am 16.11.2020 um 14:22 schrieb Arkadiusz Hiler :
> >
> > But ultimately it's up to you what you would like to see. I am still
> > fairly new to this community and I have never attended any of the
> > previous wineconfs.
>
> My concern is GSoC. Unfortunately I didn't see any other suggestions in
> this thread yet.
>
> If it comes down to only GSoC then maybe finding a pre-arranged time to
> chat on IRC would be an easy to organize compromise?

Either works for me.

Beyond that I think I can force the issue by removing all project
> suggestions from https://wiki.winehq.org/Summer_Of_Code under the pretext
> that (a) they are all stale and (b) don't fit the new smaller format and
> call for new ideas to be added. If we don't get any within 2 weeks then
> maybe GSoC is no longer the right thing for us. If we do have ideas we need
> to come up with ways to get quality applications

+1

Virtual Wineconf?

[Jeremy White]

I've privately asked Aric if he would be willing to help organize a call 
for presentations and so on, and he agreed.

We have Arek willing to take care of the very hard logistics of 
coordinating this, so I feel like we should try it.

It might be fair for us, as a community, to give Aric and Arek some 
guidelines.  Things like how many days, what time of day, what time of 
year, and so on.

I'm going to seed this with a suggestion, but I have no strong feelings 
about it.  That is, rather than doing this over a weekend, as we usually 
do, how about if do this on a Friday/Saturday, and run from 15:00 GMT 
until 21:00 GMT each day [1] []2.

For timing, how about the middle of January?  The 15th/16th?

Again, I'm just seeding the discussion.  Thoughts?

Cheers,

Jeremy

[1]  This might be a bit long; we were running quite light on proposals 
for the last Wineconf, and I fear we may hit the same.  I'd tend to say 
we just shorten the windows to respond to that.

[2]   My rationale is that I hope that Pacific time folks can wake up 
early (7:00 am) to participate, and Asian folks can stay up late (22:00 
in Japan) to do the same.  I was also sort of hoping that would be 
easier for Europeans to get off work on the Friday, but maybe that's a 
pointless issue these days.

Virtual Wineconf?

[Austin English]

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 1:10 PM Jeremy White  wrote:
> I've privately asked Aric if he would be willing to help organize a call
> for presentations and so on, and he agreed.

Great!
> We have Arek willing to take care of the very hard logistics of
> coordinating this, so I feel like we should try it.

Agreed.

It might be fair for us, as a community, to give Aric and Arek some
> guidelines.  Things like how many days, what time of day, what time of
> year, and so on.
>
> I'm going to seed this with a suggestion, but I have no strong feelings
> about it.  That is, rather than doing this over a weekend, as we usually
> do, how about if do this on a Friday/Saturday, and run from 15:00 GMT
> until 21:00 GMT each day [1] []2.
>
> For timing, how about the middle of January?  The 15th/16th?

Seems reasonable, though I'm not sure how much time Aric/Arek need to get
prepped?

Again, I'm just seeding the discussion.  Thoughts?
> Cheers,
>
> Jeremy
>
> [1]  This might be a bit long; we were running quite light on proposals
> for the last Wineconf, and I fear we may hit the same.  I'd tend to say
> we just shorten the windows to respond to that.
>
> [2]   My rationale is that I hope that Pacific time folks can wake up
> early (7:00 am) to participate, and Asian folks can stay up late (22:00
> in Japan) to do the same.  I was also sort of hoping that would be
> easier for Europeans to get off work on the Friday, but maybe that's a
> pointless issue these days.

Heh, I think it's worth trying to find a good time, but as you said, with
so many people WFH, I don't think timezones mean as much anymore.

Virtual Wineconf?

[Aric Stewart]

Jan 15/16 is the only weekend I have a conflict in the entire month. But other than that I do not have a strong preference as to the date but just as a heads up if we are going to call for presentations we want presenters to have time to write their talks.   I would vote later in the mont then as we are already Dec 1st.

I am happy to take on the organizing of the time slots role again, assuming we still want to organized it that time.

I am thinking this could be an easy way to open up to an even larger audience also.  If our talks can be viewed by anyone online then if we get it all scheduled and published before hand we can get casual observers dropping in for given talks and such.

-aric

On 11/27/20 4:04 PM, Austin English wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 1:10 PM Jeremy White <[e-mail] > wrote:
> I've privately asked Aric if he would be willing to help organize a call
> for presentations and so on, and he agreed.
>
>
> Great!
> We have Arek willing to take care of the very hard logistics of
> coordinating this, so I feel like we should try it.
>
>
> Agreed.
> It might be fair for us, as a community, to give Aric and Arek some
> guidelines.  Things like how many days, what time of day, what time of
> year, and so on.
>
> I'm going to seed this with a suggestion, but I have no strong feelings
> about it.  That is, rather than doing this over a weekend, as we usually
> do, how about if do this on a Friday/Saturday, and run from 15:00 GMT
> until 21:00 GMT each day [1] []2.
>
> For timing, how about the middle of January?  The 15th/16th?
>
>
> Seems reasonable, though I'm not sure how much time Aric/Arek need to get prepped?
> Again, I'm just seeding the discussion.  Thoughts?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeremy
>
> [1]  This might be a bit long; we were running quite light on proposals
> for the last Wineconf, and I fear we may hit the same.  I'd tend to say
> we just shorten the windows to respond to that.
>
> [2]   My rationale is that I hope that Pacific time folks can wake up
> early (7:00 am) to participate, and Asian folks can stay up late (22:00
> in Japan) to do the same.  I was also sort of hoping that would be
> easier for Europeans to get off work on the Friday, but maybe that's a
> pointless issue these days.
>
>
> Heh, I think it's worth trying to find a good time, but as you said, with so many people WFH, I don't think timezones mean as much anymore.
>
> -Austin
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[Stefan Dösinger]

I can arrange any weekend in January. I think we should have it before the gsoc application deadline, which is Feb 29th.

I think we should have a talk on ARM and in particular Apple Silicon again. I can contribute a little, but I'll need help from Chip and/or Ken.

Stefan
> Am 01.12.2020 um 23:12 schrieb Aric Stewart :
>
> Jan 15/16 is the only weekend I have a conflict in the entire month. But other than that I do not have a strong preference as to the date but just as a heads up if we are going to call for presentations we want presenters to have time to write their talks.   I would vote later in the mont then as we are already Dec 1st.
>
> I am happy to take on the organizing of the time slots role again, assuming we still want to organized it that time.
>
> I am thinking this could be an easy way to open up to an even larger audience also.  If our talks can be viewed by anyone online then if we get it all scheduled and published before hand we can get casual observers dropping in for given talks and such.
>
> -aric
>
> On 11/27/20 4:04 PM, Austin English wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 1:10 PM Jeremy White <[e-mail] > wrote:
> >    I've privately asked Aric if he would be willing to help organize a call
> >    for presentations and so on, and he agreed.
> > Great!
> >    We have Arek willing to take care of the very hard logistics of
> >    coordinating this, so I feel like we should try it.
> > Agreed.
> >    It might be fair for us, as a community, to give Aric and Arek some
> >    guidelines.  Things like how many days, what time of day, what time of
> >    year, and so on.
> >    I'm going to seed this with a suggestion, but I have no strong feelings
> >    about it.  That is, rather than doing this over a weekend, as we usually
> >    do, how about if do this on a Friday/Saturday, and run from 15:00 GMT
> >    until 21:00 GMT each day [1] []2.
> >    For timing, how about the middle of January?  The 15th/16th?
> > Seems reasonable, though I'm not sure how much time Aric/Arek need to get prepped?
> >    Again, I'm just seeding the discussion.  Thoughts?
> >    Cheers,
> >    Jeremy
> >    [1]  This might be a bit long; we were running quite light on proposals
> >    for the last Wineconf, and I fear we may hit the same.  I'd tend to say
> >    we just shorten the windows to respond to that.
> >    [2]   My rationale is that I hope that Pacific time folks can wake up
> >    early (7:00 am) to participate, and Asian folks can stay up late (22:00
> >    in Japan) to do the same.  I was also sort of hoping that would be
> >    easier for Europeans to get off work on the Friday, but maybe that's a
> >    pointless issue these days.
> > Heh, I think it's worth trying to find a good time, but as you said, with so many people WFH, I don't think timezones mean as much anymore.
> > --
> > -Austin
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