March 2001 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

Re: Nasty Wine/kernel bug, anyone?

by Ulrich Weigand

Hi Jeremy, > > Could you check in which kernel routine the process is blocked? > > (e.g. using ps -Ao pid,wchan) > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND > jwhite 2531 2.3 14.8 86144 38016 pts/0 D 16:02 0:05 wine > --debugmsg +server msimn.exe > > PID WCHAN > 2531 down Great :-( Now the interesting thing would be to know *which* semaphore this is waiting on ... I'd really like to see a kernel stack backtrace on this. However, there doesn't appear to be an easy way to do so ... > > Hmm. Could you try getting a Wine trace (especially the server/ > > client interaction)? > > ftp://wine.codeweavers.com/pub/other/outlook-server.out.gz > (about 160K). Is this from the same run as above? I.e. is the process with pid 2531 part of this trace? B.t.w. the trace appears to show that you pressed ^C to terminate the process. Does the symptom (processes in state D) show *before* you press ^C or only afterwards? Bye, Ulrich -- Dr. Ulrich Weigand weigand(a)informatik.uni-erlangen.de

March 26, 2001

WineX-Transgaming

by Gottfried F. Zojer

Hi, I m new to this list.So I hope that a little bit of feedback is coming to my first posting.Is somebody on this list who is working on DirectX APi s into WINE.I heart from the WineX Api from Transgaming Tech. It s hosted on SourgeForge.Unfortuntely this server must be a very slow because it was impossible for me to get access to the CVS-Tree. Thanks in advance Gottfried

March 26, 2001

Some ideas/bugs that turned out while playing Fallout

by Jukka Heinonen

I installed latest Wine snapshot and got Fallout running. However, after I played with Fallout for some time, I found out that there are certain issues with Wine that make playing Fallout a bit irritating. Since these issues likely affect lots of games and also many other applications, I decided to make some bug reports and suggestions. I *might* be interested to do some work on these myself, but before doing anything, I want to get some feedback on these issues: 1. Lost keyboard/mouse events. When typing something to text dialogs, I noticed that if I type too fast Wine ignores some of the typed letters. Similarly, I sometimes have to press mouse buttons multiple times in order to get the Wine window to recognize mouse clicks. These are definitely bugs. 2. Sound quality was usually good but sometimes there were short pauses at regular intervals in the playback. I guess this was because hardware buffers got empty and soundcard stopped playing for a short time. Another problem was that if Fallout had music enabled it was possible that music playback took so much CPU time that the whole machine got very sluggish and Wine window stopped receiving mouse/keyboard input. It is likely that both of these problems were due to too slow a machine (Pentium MMX 200) but they still are annoying. What I would suggest would be to add to Wine configuration options like this: * No sound. Even though Linux might have working sound drivers it might be that sound just does not work in Wine. Better to be able to disable sound from Wine applications in this case. Also good for really slow machines. * Reduced quality sound. Use sound hardware as if it was only able to do something like mono/8 bits/8000 Hz. Doesn't sound terribly good, but hopefully CPU load is reduced. Haven't looked at Wine code to see if this would be the case. * Full quality sound. This should be the default. 3. Running full screen mode applications was not easy. First of all, if I did not use desktop-in-window mode and the full screen window lost focus then I had no way of getting focus back to Wine window. Also, Fallout only run few seconds before freezing in this mode. On the other hand, desktop-in-window mode worked. However, this window had the annoying property that if I accidentally gave it focus, it took lots of effort to get focus out of this window. Ok, I should be using click-to-focus instead of focus to window under mouse but I think having to change window manager configuration to get Wine work is not right. On the other hand, it was way too easy to get focus out of the Wine window. Fallout and many other full screen games scroll when you move mouse to the edge of the Wine window and this quite often resulted in Wine losing focus. This is not a good thing if you use CTRL-ALT-PLUS/MINUS to change resolution to 640x400 since this causes nasty scrolling. So, I have the following suggestion for full-screen mode. When application requests full-screen mode, open big black window on top of all other windows and draw application window in center of that. If there is some way to get X server to keep viewport centered when resolution is manually changed this would work quite well, otherwise it might be necessary to put the Wine window to some corner. If would be really great if Wine could ask X server to change resolution. Perhaps an extension to X server (or just reading X server manuals) would be needed... Moving mouse out of this window should not work. This would keep lots of games (and players) happy. If this window lost focus (window managers usually have keys to move focus to other windows) then the full-screen Wine window should be replaced by a miniature window of the full-screen application. Clicking this miniature would naturally reopen the big fullscreen window. In order to keep users happy, there should some key to miniaturize the full-screen application. If window manager did not already use ALT-TAB then that might be a good candidate. Also, you should be able to miniaturize the window using mouse. This could be done Windows-like by moving the mouse to the edge of the screen (or maybe corner?) and keeping it there for several seconds. After this time, a bar would appear. Clicking this bar would miniaturize the window. This might still look funny if an application scrolls when mouse is moved to the edge of the screen, but it would otherwise not cause problems with the scrolling itself. Finally, in order to keep users not too surprised, it might be good idea to show for a few seconds some text on top of the full-screen window when the window "steals" the display. Something like: "Wine / xyz.exe / Use alt-tab or move mouse to edge of screen to hide" 4. There should be some documentation on using Wine with Linux kernel automounter. Like whether it works or not and does it make using games with multiple CDs easier etc. And I was just wondering should Wine try to manually mount/unmount CDROMs if you don't use automounter. -- Jukka Heinonen <http://www.iki.fi/jhei/>

March 26, 2001

Re: building wine-20010305

by Andreas Mohr

On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 05:54:17PM -0800, furlan(a)telocity.com wrote: > On Sun, 25 March 2001, "Dmitry Timoshkov" wrote: > > > > > "Igor" <furlan(a)telocity.com> wrote: > > > > > ../include/winbase.h:1917: parse error before `!' > > > make[3]: *** [loadorder.o] Error 1 > > > > Did you look at that place? What is there? > > everything is fine there > > > > > For me, there is only single '!' sign in the include/winbase.h at line 1759: > > #define HasOverlappedCompleted(lpOverlapped) ((lpOverlapped)->Internal != STATUS_PENDING) > > > > Are you sure, that you have downloaded not broken archive? > > Prior to my post to the wine-devel I dovnoladed wine 3 times... and I got always different build errors.. > > Finally I succeeded by continously repeating "make".. > After every "make" I came further... > > so..the conclusion is: I have some problems > with hard disk, RAM or "something_else"... Ouch !! That surely sounds like big trouble to me... Install the memtest package/program and run it ! And make sure that you don´t have any DMA problems or similar with your IO chipset !! (check your hdparm configuration just in case !) > WINE is just fine !! :-) -- Andreas Mohr Stauferstr. 6, D-71272 Renningen, Germany Tel. +49 7159 800604 http://home.germany.net/100-30936/

March 26, 2001

Re: building wine-20010305

by Dmitry Timoshkov

"Igor" <furlan(a)telocity.com> wrote: > ../include/winbase.h:1917: parse error before `!' > make[3]: *** [loadorder.o] Error 1 Did you look at that place? What is there? For me, there is only single '!' sign in the include/winbase.h at line 1759: #define HasOverlappedCompleted(lpOverlapped) ((lpOverlapped)->Internal != STATUS_PENDING) Are you sure, that you have downloaded not broken archive?

March 26, 2001

Re: building wine-20010305

by furlan＠telocity.com

On Sun, 25 March 2001, "Dmitry Timoshkov" wrote: > > "Igor" <furlan(a)telocity.com> wrote: > > > ../include/winbase.h:1917: parse error before `!' > > make[3]: *** [loadorder.o] Error 1 > > Did you look at that place? What is there? everything is fine there > > For me, there is only single '!' sign in the include/winbase.h at line 1759: > #define HasOverlappedCompleted(lpOverlapped) ((lpOverlapped)->Internal != STATUS_PENDING) > > Are you sure, that you have downloaded not broken archive? Prior to my post to the wine-devel I dovnoladed wine 3 times... and I got always different build errors.. Finally I succeeded by continously repeating "make".. After every "make" I came further... so..the conclusion is: I have some problems with hard disk, RAM or "something_else"... WINE is just fine !!

March 26, 2001

Re: Nasty Wine/kernel bug, anyone?

by Jeremy White

> Could you check in which kernel routine the process is blocked? > (e.g. using ps -Ao pid,wchan) USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND jwhite 2531 2.3 14.8 86144 38016 pts/0 D 16:02 0:05 wine --debugmsg +server msimn.exe PID WCHAN 2531 down > > Hmm. Could you try getting a Wine trace (especially the server/ > client interaction)? ftp://wine.codeweavers.com/pub/other/outlook-server.out.gz (about 160K). Thanks, Jer

March 25, 2001

Re: Printing documentation not built

by Francois Gouget

On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Ian Pilcher wrote: > It looks like the contents of documentation/printing.sgml are not being > included in either the HTML or PostScript/PDF documentation. Anyone > know how to fix this? I propose the following. Does everyone agree with the placement in the wine-user/configuration section? (I'm not quite sure about the rationale behind the order of things in the configuration section) -- Francois Gouget fgouget(a)free.fr http://fgouget.free.fr/ Stolen from an Internet user: "f u cn rd ths, u cn gt a gd jb n cmptr prgrmmng !"

March 25, 2001

Re: Nasty Wine/kernel bug, anyone?

by Jeremy White

gerard patel wrote: > At 12:14 PM 20/03/2001 -0600, you wrote: > > <snip> > >I saw at least other user report on this (Steve Fox reported this > >with Lotus Notes). > > > >My best guess is that this is a bug in the vfat driver, > >but that's just a hunch. > > Where did this Notes bug turn up ? I never saw it on the news group, > and it's not in your bug database. I'm curious because I would like to > know how to reproduce it (I don't want not install Win98 and Outlook to > test this :-/) I think it was in the newsgroup; I found it by doing a google search on dead threads. Ulrich, I haven't been able to reproduce it in the few simple attempts I've made, but I'll take a more focused try at it tomorrow. Jer

March 25, 2001

building wine-20010305

by Igor

Hi to ALL, This is the first time I am writing to the WINE-DEVEL list. First of all, I have to congratulate all the developers for their outstanding job. Then I have to say that I have downloaded, more or less, ALL the versions of WINE back to March 1999. The sequence "configure-->make_depend-->make" worked flawlessly ..... UNTIL today This is the first time I am not able to compile WINE source code on my system. my system is: REHAT Linux 2.2.14-5.0 i686 gcc compiler is gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release) glibc libray is: glibc-2.1.3-15 ./configure goes through without a glitch make depend does not cause any problem at all but when I start "make" I do get on the screen the following ld -r builtin.o relay.o snoop.o thunk.o asmrelay.o thunk.glue.o -o if1632.o make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/downloads/tarballs/wine-20010305/wine-20010305/if1632' make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/local/downloads/tarballs/wine-20010305/wine-20010305/loader' gcc -c -I. -I. -I../include -I../include -g -O2 -Wall -fPIC -D__WINE__ -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -o elf.o elf.c gcc -c -I. -I. -I../include -I../include -g -O2 -Wall -fPIC -D__WINE__ -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/X11R6/include -o loadorder.o loadorder.c In file included from ../include/heap.h:13, from loadorder.c:15: ../include/winbase.h:1917: parse error before `!' make[3]: *** [loadorder.o] Error 1 If out there is a good soul to help me out , I would really appreciate it Thanks In advance Igor Furlan

March 25, 2001