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Re: The future of WineConf

by Owen Rudge

On 30/07/2023 13:47, André Zwing wrote: > I think it still might be that last year was still a bit special. > The pandemic wasn't "over" that long and I noticed quite high flight > prices to Minnesota for the WineConf dates. Maybe there was some other, > bigger event? Last year's event was scheduled for midweek rather than the usual weekend slot, and I found that flight prices from the UK at least were really expensive unless you stayed a Saturday night. A midweek event would also likely mean people needing to take holidays from work, which may not be the case at the weekend, and could also have an effect on attendance I imagine. Cheers, Owen

July 31, 2023

Re: The future of WineConf

by André Zwing

Am 21.07.23 um 14:31 schrieb Alexandre Julliard: > Folks, > > As you may have noticed, we haven't been making any plans for WineConf > this year. Jeremy has been busy preparing his retirement, and I haven't > been pushing it either, mostly because I'm not convinced that we want to > continue the traditional WineConf model. > > Even though we skipped a few years because of the pandemic, attendance > at last year's WineConf wasn't great. We also suggested meeting at > FOSDEM in February, like we did in previous years, but essentially no > one showed up. > > So I'm wondering whether there is still enough interest for a > traditional WineConf, or whether we should try a different approach, to > maybe capture some of the recent excitement around gaming and downstream > uses of Wine in general. > > I'd like to hear your thoughts. Should we do a Proton conference, or > join some kind of gaming-related event? Do people even want to travel > to conferences anymore? What kind of event would you be interested in, > particularly those of you who don't show up to the traditional WineConf? > Hi, I think it still might be that last year was still a bit special. The pandemic wasn't "over" that long and I noticed quite high flight prices to Minnesota for the WineConf dates. Maybe there was some other, bigger event? The original plan for this year was Japan, which would be really interesting, but I guess flight prices would be high as well from USA and Europe at least. Am 28.07.23 um 09:29 schrieb Austin English: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 12:43 PM Michael Stefaniuc <mstefani(a)winehq.org <mailto:mstefani(a)winehq.org>> wrote: > The 2022 WineConf I had to skip due delays with the visa. > I've noticed that our EU conferences tend to have more people, and I suspect that not having to deal with US visas is a factor in that. I also think so. ESTA is not for everyone.

July 30, 2023

Re: The future of WineConf

by Michael Stefaniuc

On 7/28/23 12:12, Stefan Dösinger wrote: > Am Dienstag, 25. Juli 2023, 20:41:45 EAT schrieb Michael Stefaniuc: >> To attract users like the Proton users we would probably need to go to one >> of the games conventions. But I doubt we can afford that. > > Do you have something like Gamescom or Dreamhack in mind here? It would be an > interesting experiment, even if we just stay in some Hotel in the same place > the days before/after the big show. Yeah, I had Gamescon in mind as knew about that one. But I'm not a gamer so no clue what else is there. bye michael

July 28, 2023

Re: The future of WineConf

by Stefan Dösinger

Am Dienstag, 25. Juli 2023, 20:41:45 EAT schrieb Michael Stefaniuc: > To attract users like the Proton users we would probably need to go to one > of the games conventions. But I doubt we can afford that. Do you have something like Gamescom or Dreamhack in mind here? It would be an interesting experiment, even if we just stay in some Hotel in the same place the days before/after the big show.

July 28, 2023

Re: The future of WineConf

by Austin English

On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 12:43 PM Michael Stefaniuc <mstefani(a)winehq.org> wrote: > On 7/22/23 18:46, Stefan Dösinger wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Let me make sure there's a reply :-) > > > >> Am 21.07.2023 um 15:31 schrieb Alexandre Julliard <julliard(a)winehq.org > >: > >> > >> So I'm wondering whether there is still enough interest for a > >> traditional WineConf, or whether we should try a different approach, to > >> maybe capture some of the recent excitement around gaming and downstream > >> uses of Wine in general. > > > > I'll come to whatever event, I just skipped 2022 due to urgent family > concerns. > I'll concur to Stefan. I'll go to whatever event. > I'm in the same boat. > The 2022 WineConf I had to skip due delays with the visa. > I've noticed that our EU conferences tend to have more people, and I suspect that not having to deal with US visas is a factor in that. -- -Austin GPG: 267B CC1F 053F 0749 (expires 2024/02/17)

July 28, 2023

Re: The future of WineConf

by Michael Stefaniuc

On 7/22/23 18:46, Stefan Dösinger wrote: > Hi, > > Let me make sure there's a reply :-) > >> Am 21.07.2023 um 15:31 schrieb Alexandre Julliard <julliard(a)winehq.org>: >> >> So I'm wondering whether there is still enough interest for a >> traditional WineConf, or whether we should try a different approach, to >> maybe capture some of the recent excitement around gaming and downstream >> uses of Wine in general. > > I'll come to whatever event, I just skipped 2022 due to urgent family concerns. I'll concur to Stefan. I'll go to whatever event. The 2022 WineConf I had to skip due delays with the visa. > I am all for changing the setup though - it has mostly turned to preaching to the choir with mostly the same people all the time. Of course we tried to extend the attendees, with mixed results. I think integrating with FOSDEM worked well, and I'd advocate for repeating that every now and then. (Actually showing up at FOSDEM, not making it an excuse to drink beer) To attract users like the Proton users we would probably need to go to one of the games conventions. But I doubt we can afford that. bye michael

July 25, 2023

Vacations

by Alexandre Julliard

Folks, I'll be out on vacation for about 3 weeks starting today. I'm still planning to review and commit merge requests, but the timing will be slower and more random than usual. I'll also skip the August 4 release, so Wine 8.14 will be out on August 18. Have fun while I'm gone ;-) -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.org

July 25, 2023

Re: The future of WineConf

by kirmozor＠riseup.net

I really don't want WineConf to end. If you want to hold a conference on Proton, then that would be very cool! Regarding the place of providence, I think the best option would be to do everything online, through Telegram, and in principle to gather a community of developers in a chat so that they can communicate with each other and better adapt their games through communication between themselves, how do you look at this option? (Sorry for possible errors in the text, I do not know English well, so I translated through Google Translate)

July 24, 2023

Wine-CE 8.13 released

by fanwj＠mail.ustc.edu.cn

Wine-CE 8.13 released! Address: https://gitlab.com/wine-ce/wine-ce/-/releases/v8.13 Wine-CE (Chimera Edition, Cross-architecture Emulator) is a compatibility layer capable of running Windows applications on Cross-architecture paltform of Linux. It is base on Wine Project and Qemu Project ChangeLog: 1. Add GLES backed for wined3d. 2. Add EGL supported for winex11.drv 3. New 32-bit allocation for wow64

July 23, 2023

Wine staging 8.13 release

by Alistair Leslie-Hughes

Binary packages for various distributions will be available from: https://www.winehq.org/download Summary since last release * Rebased to current wine 8.13 (504 patches are applied to wine vanilla) Upstreamed (Either directly from staging or fixed with a similar patch). * None Added: * [55135] d3d12core: Add D3D12GetInterface stub. Updated: * vkd3d-latest to latest. * windows.networking.connectivity-new-dll Where can you help * Run Steam/Battle.net/GOG/UPlay/Epic * Test your favorite game. * Test your favorite applications. * Improve staging patches and get them accepted upstream. * Suggest patches to be included in staging. As always, if you find a bug, please report it via https://bugs.winehq.org Best Regards Alistair.

July 23, 2023