January 2002 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

IBM, Notes, Wine and (necessary) version numbers for wine

by rob＠mediasolution.it

Hi there, > One of the better ways to show the potential to IBM would be to find one of > their apps that *does* work under WINE and get it demoed to their > management. Although it sounds like some of them are already (internally) > using Notes under Linux? Let me use your message to speak about a "feature" of the wine developement model that's starting to "annoy" me: using "date-version" instead of a proper version number for the snapshot. I know I'm in no position to get annoyed by anything, since Iìve contributed no code or useful hints so far :-), but I'd really like to see this change. We all know Wine is evolving rather fast, and every 'n' months a major subsystem gets rewritten to be able to implement it the "right" way, windows speaking, or because the old implementation was only partially complete. That's not a problem, since this way wine becomes better and bettter. Where the problem is, however, is that I can't know when these changes, that usually bring forth major breakages in some/many applications, are done. I've been following wine-devel and wine-cvs and, back in June (IIRC) when the windows handling code was changed, I wasn't too surprised when Lotus Notes stopped working (and it's still broken in many ways, window repainting for example). Too bad SuSE people didn't follow the lists, and going from version 7.2 to version 7.3 of their distro, they "upgraded" their wine rpm package from 20010326 to 20010731. With the new version, notes doesn't start at all... I ask: isn't it about time to use version numbers, like in the linux kernel? I now you are working toward "1.0" release, but I guess some 0.6.x (stable) 0.7.x (unstable), 0.8.x (stable again) coudn't hurt, and this kind of versioning give hints to people on where to go and what to download if they want something stable or if they want the "newest". I think it's important to let wine users understand if the package they are about to install is a stable, well tested version, or an extremely new, developemental and untested version. In my opinion, some snapshot (like the April 2001 one) are definitely beta quality, so I think it's useful to let people know this, especially at a time like this when the Lindows people are saying "we fixed wine, going from alfa to release!"... I'd really like to know from which snapshot they started... Ciao, Roberto P.S. I hope to be more useful in future, since I'm starting my own business that will be based rather heavily on Linux, and this way I hope I'll be able to search and destroy the most annoying bugs I find.. :-)

Jan. 12, 2002

EnumWindows

by Tommy Schultz Lassen

Why does EnumWindows return FALSE if no windows exists. Should it not return TRUE instead. Her is a patch witch changes it. Tommy.

Jan. 12, 2002

Re: The most likely way to get IBM to sponsor WINE development

by dschwarz＠bellatlantic.net

I've been following this discussion with some interest. I am a former Iris/Lotus/IBM employee, and I now run the Winecentric pages www.winecentric.com, basically a faq on how to run Lotus Notes and other programs under WINE. I have had unofficial conversations with Lotus product development managers; they have reacted to customer requests for the Lotus Notes client on Linux by doing their own testing, and they even publish an official page outlining how to run Lotus Notes with WINE. They don't offer customer support (that would cost millions). The best way to get IBM to sponsor WINE development is to persuade them to port their flagship applications to Linux. IBM/Lotus have a long history of using API translators to port products across platforms, including Lotus Notes and SmartSuite. If they were persuaded to port, say, VisualAge for Java and SmartSuite, using Winelib, we'd gain some new applications plus (hopefully) IBM would contribute any Winelib enhancements back. Just my 2 cents... Dan Schwarz help(a)winecentric.com

Jan. 11, 2002

Bad File Creation

by Guy L. Albertelli

In attempting to play with Outlook Express 5 under Wine, I find that the files created by OE are bad/damaged. The attachments are as follows: hoho.gif - view under Linux shows Folders.dbx as 75,204 hoho-win.gif - view under Windows shows Folders.dbx as 74K (pretty good). scandisk.gif - error message from scandisk under windows. hoho-win-after.gif - view under Windows shows Folders.dbx as 60K after repair. hoho.txt - selected pieces of the trace from Wine during the creation of Folders.dbx. Revisiting it under Linux shows the size is now 61,440. The Linux is RH 6.1 and the kernel is 2.2.12-20. This is the only file that this problem occurs on (not true, it also occurs on Inbox.dbx in the same folder). No other file that I create under Linux is damaged. I suspect that this may be due to Wine implementation of the call sequence of: GetFileSize(..) SetFilePointer(..) SetEndOfFile(..) Any comments or suggestions? Guy Albertelli <<galberte(a)neo.lrun.com>> Bathed in his currents of liquid helium, self-contained, immobile, vastly well informed by every mechanical sense: Shalmaneser. Every now and again there passes through his circuts a pulse which carries the cybernetic equivalent of the phrase, "Christ, what an imagination I've got. " - Stand on Zanzibar by John Brunner

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: How about sponsoring from IBM?

by David.Goodenough＠DGA.co.uk

I would suggest that one of the things that would help would be for IBM development labs which are developing Windows code, such as the Lotus labs, to test their code under WINE as well as Windows, and if it does not work to report any problems they find with APIs to the WINE community, perhaps even with fixes as they can see what WINE is doing with their requests. Without the source code and the understanding of what they expect to happen it is difficult for WINE developers to work out why any app does not work (although the tracing gives many clues). This way WINE users get apps that work and the developers get good feedback. Roland <roland(a)netquant. To: Paul Clarke <pacman(a)us.ibm.com>, wine-devel(a)winehq.com com.br> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: How about sponsoring from IBM? wine-devel-admin@ winehq.com 01/11/02 05:47 PM At 08:35 AM 1/11/02 -0600, Paul Clarke wrote: >My attempt to convince you otherwise: > >http://oss.software.ibm.com/developer/opensource/linux >http://www.ibm.com/linux > >Paul Clarke, IBM Good, so it really seems that IBM is commited to Linux. Now my question is, would it be too much to ask IBM to spend 1% of that 1 billion for Linux on WINE? Of course we are assuming that a full-featured WINE would DRASTICALLY increase the success of Linux. This would be in accordance with: "...with a shared vision of making Linux succeed." quote from http://www-124.ibm.com/developer/opensource/linux/ If the assumption is true I think those 10 Million would be the best spent part of that 1 Billion. Paul, do you know the people in charge of the Linux sponsoring? How about talking to them about this idea? It would be interesting to hear what they say. Maybe they even don't know about the WINE project... Just my 0.000 000 001$ Roland

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: How about sponsoring from IBM?

by Geoff Thorpe

Hi there, One of the better ways to show the potential to IBM would be to find one of their apps that *does* work under WINE and get it demoed to their management. Although it sounds like some of them are already (internally) using Notes under Linux? Hmm ... I have one or two leads I can try to follow, but it's a sure thing that a "wrapper" company would have more joy getting something to stick, eg. a redhat, mandrake, codeweavers, etc. Cheers, Geoff

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: How about sponsoring from IBM?

by Roland

At 07:57 PM 1/11/02 +0100, Joerg Mayer wrote: >It looks like IBM spends its money on the products they themselvs use >heavily, as well as training and making the name of Linux more popular >(aka advertising/PR). Hmm, I think 10 Million on WINE would do more advertising on the long run by attracting Windows Users and spreading the word, then the same amount spent on ads. If you really want to make Linux popular, running Windows software is the way, think about all the apps and games!!! >I may have missed it but I haven't seen IBM spend >money on a Linux(related) project just to further the project. If they >wanted to spend $10e7 just to improve programs/tools just for the "good" >of it I would be sad to see this money spent on wine. I'd like to see >it spent on the development/improvement of *native* Linux apps that >fulfill the need of current Windows users. Well, you have two options: 1. Spend money on thousands of native Linux apps to capture the Windows users. 2. Spend money on ONE native Linux app(WINE) to make it run thousands of Windows apps and attract the corresponding users. I think option 2 is the more intelligent and cheaper option. Roland

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: How about sponsoring from IBM?

by Roland

>One senior manager at IBM explained it to me as follows: >Most senior management at IBM has been with the company for a long time. >Most of those went through the OS/2 era. Many people may not realize it, >but IBM put their heart and soul into OS/2 - and were >burned very, very badly by it. As a consequence, many >people at IBM are understandably very reluctant to contemplate >another attack on Windows dominance of the desktop. > >This doesn't mean that I think helping Wine would be bad for IBM >(or I wouldn't have been such a pest), but it may help folks >to understand why IBM isn't very focused on Linux as a desktop OS. > >Jeremy Ok, I understand your point. But I think there is a big difference here. They "put their heart and soul into OS/2". I'm not asking for them to do the same with WINE. All I ask is to contributing a little from their huge Linux budget on WINE. Even if WINE doesn't work out the way everyone is imagining they will not have lost much, only 1% of the Linux budget. Putting heart and soul into it is something that no one is demanging... Roland

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: How about sponsoring from IBM?

by Joerg Mayer

On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 03:47:56PM -0200, Roland wrote: > If the assumption is true I think those 10 Million would be the best spent > part of that 1 Billion. It looks like IBM spends its money on the products they themselvs use heavily, as well as training and making the name of Linux more popular (aka advertising/PR). I may have missed it but I haven't seen IBM spend money on a Linux(related) project just to further the project. If they wanted to spend $10e7 just to improve programs/tools just for the "good" of it I would be sad to see this money spent on wine. I'd like to see it spent on the development/improvement of *native* Linux apps that fulfill the need of current Windows users. Ciao Jörg -- Joerg Mayer <jmayer(a)loplof.de> I found out that "pro" means "instead of" (as in proconsul). Now I know what proactive means.

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: WinSpool Ordinal Addition

by Alexandre Julliard

"Dmitry Timoshkov" <dmitry(a)baikal.ru> writes: > It should be clear even for you, since you have submitted two different > patches with ordinal 201 assigned to absolutely different functions and > presumably both variants have worked for you. Apparently just adding > 100 stub OrdinalBase > should work for you too. > > Probably the right fix would be to add new parameter to the wine .spec > files: "ordinal base", because for WINSPOOL.DRV it's equal to 100 in all > variants of that DLL for me. No, the right fix is the first one, adding a function at ordinal 100, since there is one under Windows. It should never be necessary to specify the ordinal base explicitly. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: How about sponsoring from IBM?

by Jeremy White

Roland wrote: > At 08:35 AM 1/11/02 -0600, Paul Clarke wrote: > >> My attempt to convince you otherwise: >> >> http://oss.software.ibm.com/developer/opensource/linux >> http://www.ibm.com/linux >> >> Paul Clarke, IBM > > > Good, so it really seems that IBM is commited to Linux. Now my question > is, would it be too much to ask IBM to spend 1% of that 1 billion for > Linux on WINE? Of course we are assuming that a full-featured WINE would > DRASTICALLY increase the success of Linux. This would be in accordance > with: > "...with a shared vision of making Linux succeed." quote from > http://www-124.ibm.com/developer/opensource/linux/ > > If the assumption is true I think those 10 Million would be the best > spent part of that 1 Billion. > Paul, do you know the people in charge of the Linux sponsoring? How > about talking to them about this idea? It would be interesting to hear > what they say. Maybe they even don't know about the WINE project... Many people at IBM know about Wine; in fact a lot of developers there depend on it everyday (IBM is standardized on Notes for messaging...). Many non developers also know about it, if for no other reason that I've been a pest.<grin> One senior manager at IBM explained it to me as follows: Most senior management at IBM has been with the company for a long time. Most of those went through the OS/2 era. Many people may not realize it, but IBM put their heart and soul into OS/2 - and were burned very, very badly by it. As a consequence, many people at IBM are understandably very reluctant to contemplate another attack on Windows dominance of the desktop. This doesn't mean that I think helping Wine would be bad for IBM (or I wouldn't have been such a pest), but it may help folks to understand why IBM isn't very focused on Linux as a desktop OS. Jeremy

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: ADPCM and Wine

by Eric Pouech

> So, is anybody working on this (outside of TG and Lindows)? Any > (non-null) pointers to useful information on how Wine has put together > the sound subsystem? I'm not a Windows programmer, I'm an embedded > systems and DSP person, but if I can find a block of code to hook into I > can make this happen. well, to make things a bit harder, (at least) two ADPCM exist: - IMA and MS basic algorithm are quite the same, coeff tables differ a bit. I did start a while ago an IMA ADPCM driver for wine it's not finished yet (basically, didn't find time to look at in depth docs for some details, like coding/decoding of stereo vs mono) it's far from being finished and tested, but the framework (wine integration, driver infrastructure) is in place, there's just some need to concentrate on codec code so, if you're ready to go for it, I can send you the code and give you the directions to end up the job A+ -- --------------- Eric Pouech (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/eric.pouech/) "The future will be better tomorrow", Vice President Dan Quayle

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: How about sponsoring from IBM?

by Roland

At 08:35 AM 1/11/02 -0600, Paul Clarke wrote: >My attempt to convince you otherwise: > >http://oss.software.ibm.com/developer/opensource/linux >http://www.ibm.com/linux > >Paul Clarke, IBM Good, so it really seems that IBM is commited to Linux. Now my question is, would it be too much to ask IBM to spend 1% of that 1 billion for Linux on WINE? Of course we are assuming that a full-featured WINE would DRASTICALLY increase the success of Linux. This would be in accordance with: "...with a shared vision of making Linux succeed." quote from http://www-124.ibm.com/developer/opensource/linux/ If the assumption is true I think those 10 Million would be the best spent part of that 1 Billion. Paul, do you know the people in charge of the Linux sponsoring? How about talking to them about this idea? It would be interesting to hear what they say. Maybe they even don't know about the WINE project... Just my 0.000 000 001$ Roland

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: How about sponsoring from IBM?

by degs

Just a thought, Might IBMs previous involvement in Windows development: A: have burned a few fingers there... B: cause potential legal issues with contributing to WINE? degs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bret Mogilefsky" <mogul-wine(a)gelatinous.com> To: "Andreas Mohr" <andi(a)rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de> Cc: <wine-devel(a)winehq.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:13 PM Subject: Re: How about sponsoring from IBM? > On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 02:13:22PM +0100, Andreas Mohr wrote: > > Hmm, something tells me that it's January 2002 now. > > And something else tells me that this is 12 months. > > And then something else tells me that this is quite a time frame. > > > > So what exactly has happened that demonstrates what a huuuuuge amount of > > $1 billion dollars in the hands of IBM can do ? > > > > There are a lot of people who believe that it's been vapornews. > > And I'm about to join them. > > > > So unless you can convince me otherwise... > > Wow, I guess you haven't seen the huge amount of advertising on TV, in > magazines, and on billboards, or the enormous number of Linux articles on > developerWorks, or seen all of the JFS kernel contributions, or the press > releases describing Linux running on all of their big-iron hardware, or a > brochure for all of their Linux training and consulting programs. > > IBM has committed to Linux in a big way, and it's obvious everywhere you > look. If you believe nothing else, believe that IBM is spending $1 billion > to buy Linux LEGITIMACY for use in corporations both through (a) its own > reputation and (b) addressing the areas where Linux is lacking for > production use. Many of these projects are run by IBM rather than > contributing to existing fledgling efforts, but so what? Just because > they're not contributing to every single open source project you know of > doesn't mean they're not contributing. > > That said, it seems like wine is the type of project they would WANT to be > working on, and yes, a little bit of money would go a long way. Before > crying sour grapes (har har), I suggest someone actually approach them > about it. Also, you might see if they are lurking already... Can we see a > count of @ibm.com e-mail addresses for the mailing lists? Anyone from IBM > working on Wine officially? > > > Bret > -- > Bret Mogilefsky * Mgr. SCEA Developer Support * mogul-wine(a)gelatinous.com > >

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: async_private + ReadFile() etc. immediate completion

by lawson_whitney＠juno.com

On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Martin Wilck wrote: > > Here are 2 small patches. > Both apply on top of the patch I sent yesterday which started this > thread. > > 1) fixes a bug that I discovered myself, > 2) Adds TRACES to several functions to simplify debugging. > > 2) Is not meant for applying to CVS!!! > > However, Lawson it would be nice if you produce a new trace with these two > patches applied. > > start your app with --debugmsg trace+file,trace+thread,trace+comm. > > Regards, > Martin > The app works with those patches, so the trace is much bigger. The app also works with those patches, but without tracing (sometimes tracing might change an app's behavior). Disclaimer: juno 1.49 is _a_ brain-dead 16 bit comms app, but not the only brain-dead comms app. I can't promise all of them will work. I don't guess all of wine-devel wants the trace. Anybody who does may have it for the asking. Lawson ---oof

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: How about sponsoring from IBM?

by Bret Mogilefsky

On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 02:13:22PM +0100, Andreas Mohr wrote: > Hmm, something tells me that it's January 2002 now. > And something else tells me that this is 12 months. > And then something else tells me that this is quite a time frame. > > So what exactly has happened that demonstrates what a huuuuuge amount of > $1 billion dollars in the hands of IBM can do ? > > There are a lot of people who believe that it's been vapornews. > And I'm about to join them. > > So unless you can convince me otherwise... Wow, I guess you haven't seen the huge amount of advertising on TV, in magazines, and on billboards, or the enormous number of Linux articles on developerWorks, or seen all of the JFS kernel contributions, or the press releases describing Linux running on all of their big-iron hardware, or a brochure for all of their Linux training and consulting programs. IBM has committed to Linux in a big way, and it's obvious everywhere you look. If you believe nothing else, believe that IBM is spending $1 billion to buy Linux LEGITIMACY for use in corporations both through (a) its own reputation and (b) addressing the areas where Linux is lacking for production use. Many of these projects are run by IBM rather than contributing to existing fledgling efforts, but so what? Just because they're not contributing to every single open source project you know of doesn't mean they're not contributing. That said, it seems like wine is the type of project they would WANT to be working on, and yes, a little bit of money would go a long way. Before crying sour grapes (har har), I suggest someone actually approach them about it. Also, you might see if they are lurking already... Can we see a count of @ibm.com e-mail addresses for the mailing lists? Anyone from IBM working on Wine officially? Bret -- Bret Mogilefsky * Mgr. SCEA Developer Support * mogul-wine(a)gelatinous.com

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: async_private + ReadFile() etc. immediate completion

by Martin Wilck

Here are 2 small patches. Both apply on top of the patch I sent yesterday which started this thread. 1) fixes a bug that I discovered myself, 2) Adds TRACES to several functions to simplify debugging. 2) Is not meant for applying to CVS!!! However, Lawson it would be nice if you produce a new trace with these two patches applied. start your app with --debugmsg trace+file,trace+thread,trace+comm. Regards, Martin -- Martin Wilck Phone: +49 5251 8 15113 Fujitsu Siemens Computers Fax: +49 5251 8 20409 Heinz-Nixdorf-Ring 1 mailto:Martin.Wilck(a)Fujitsu-Siemens.com D-33106 Paderborn http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/primergy

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: How about sponsoring from IBM?

by Paul Clarke

My attempt to convince you otherwise: http://oss.software.ibm.com/developer/opensource/linux http://www.ibm.com/linux Paul Clarke, IBM Andreas Mohr wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 05:44:44PM -0200, Roland wrote: > >>Just to add a fact to my statements: >> >>http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-201-4656230-0.html >> >>quote:" IBM CEO Lou Gerstner announced IBM's $1 billion Linux commitment >>last month." (this was january 2001) >> > Hmm, something tells me that it's January 2002 now. > And something else tells me that this is 12 months. > And then something else tells me that this is quite a time frame. > > So what exactly has happened that demonstrates what a huuuuuge amount of > $1 billion dollars in the hands of IBM can do ? > > There are a lot of people who believe that it's been vapornews. > And I'm about to join them. > > So unless you can convince me otherwise... // opinions are my own, not my employer's

Jan. 11, 2002

RE: ADPCM and Wine

by Patrik Stridvall

> On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 07:16:30AM -0600, David D. Hagood wrote: > > I have an app that I use (Delorme's AAA MapNGo 4.0) that > uses ADPCM wave > > files to contain spoken information on attractions. I know > that Wine can > > access my sound system to play normal PCM wave files, as > MN4 also has > > speech synthesis that does work. However, any attempt to > play a ADPCM > > file results in the program pausing for a length of time, then > > continuing. I infer that this is because the lower levels > of Wine don't > > know how to handle ADPCM. [snip] > Try --debugmsg > +driver,+mmsys,+mci,+mmio,+mmtime,+mciwave,+msacm,+wave,+midi,+ > mmaux,+relay (they're all inside dlls/winmm/*). > > That should help a lot in finding what's missing. Well, the ADPCM codec is not implemented in MSACM32 so it really can't work, can it? Anyway seeing the debug output can't hurt either.

Jan. 11, 2002

RE: ADPCM and Wine

by Patrik Stridvall

> Is anybody working on support for playing ADPCM wave files > under Wine? Not that I know of. > If not, I'd like to take a crack at it. By all means. > I have an app that I use (Delorme's AAA MapNGo 4.0) that uses > ADPCM wave > files to contain spoken information on attractions. I know > that Wine can > access my sound system to play normal PCM wave files, as MN4 also has > speech synthesis that does work. However, any attempt to play a ADPCM > file results in the program pausing for a length of time, then > continuing. I infer that this is because the lower levels of > Wine don't > know how to handle ADPCM. That most likely correct. > ADPCM isn't rocket science - several programs, including sox, > understand > the protocol. OK. > So, is anybody working on this (outside of TG and Lindows)? Any > (non-null) pointers to useful information on how Wine has put > together > the sound subsystem? I'm not a Windows programmer, I'm an embedded > systems and DSP person, but if I can find a block of code to > hook into I > can make this happen. I suggest you talk to Eric Pouech <eric.pouech(a)wanadoo.fr>. He was active on the patch list yesterday so I suppose he will see this and reply. In the mean time I can tell you that the PCM support is in wine/dlls/mcacm and ADPCM support should be there as well. There is a file pcmconverter.c that implements PCM support so I suppose that there should be a adpcmconverter.c file to plug in the ADPCM support. There will probably need to be a few changes in other files as well. Anyway Eric understands this better than I do. Let's wait and see what he has to say.

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: ADPCM and Wine

by Andreas Mohr

On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 07:16:30AM -0600, David D. Hagood wrote: > Is anybody working on support for playing ADPCM wave files under Wine? > If not, I'd like to take a crack at it. > > I have an app that I use (Delorme's AAA MapNGo 4.0) that uses ADPCM wave > files to contain spoken information on attractions. I know that Wine can > access my sound system to play normal PCM wave files, as MN4 also has > speech synthesis that does work. However, any attempt to play a ADPCM > file results in the program pausing for a length of time, then > continuing. I infer that this is because the lower levels of Wine don't > know how to handle ADPCM. > > ADPCM isn't rocket science - several programs, including sox, understand > the protocol. > > So, is anybody working on this (outside of TG and Lindows)? Any > (non-null) pointers to useful information on how Wine has put together > the sound subsystem? I'm not a Windows programmer, I'm an embedded > systems and DSP person, but if I can find a block of code to hook into I > can make this happen. Try --debugmsg +driver,+mmsys,+mci,+mmio,+mmtime,+mciwave,+msacm,+wave,+midi,+ mmaux,+relay (they're all inside dlls/winmm/*). That should help a lot in finding what's missing. -- Andreas Mohr Stauferstr. 6, D-71272 Renningen, Germany Tel. +49 7159 800604 http://home.nexgo.de/andi.mohr/

Jan. 11, 2002

ADPCM and Wine

by David D. Hagood

Is anybody working on support for playing ADPCM wave files under Wine? If not, I'd like to take a crack at it. I have an app that I use (Delorme's AAA MapNGo 4.0) that uses ADPCM wave files to contain spoken information on attractions. I know that Wine can access my sound system to play normal PCM wave files, as MN4 also has speech synthesis that does work. However, any attempt to play a ADPCM file results in the program pausing for a length of time, then continuing. I infer that this is because the lower levels of Wine don't know how to handle ADPCM. ADPCM isn't rocket science - several programs, including sox, understand the protocol. So, is anybody working on this (outside of TG and Lindows)? Any (non-null) pointers to useful information on how Wine has put together the sound subsystem? I'm not a Windows programmer, I'm an embedded systems and DSP person, but if I can find a block of code to hook into I can make this happen.

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: How about sponsoring from IBM?

by Andreas Mohr

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 05:44:44PM -0200, Roland wrote: > Just to add a fact to my statements: > > http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-201-4656230-0.html > > quote:" IBM CEO Lou Gerstner announced IBM's $1 billion Linux commitment > last month." (this was january 2001) Hmm, something tells me that it's January 2002 now. And something else tells me that this is 12 months. And then something else tells me that this is quite a time frame. So what exactly has happened that demonstrates what a huuuuuge amount of $1 billion dollars in the hands of IBM can do ? There are a lot of people who believe that it's been vapornews. And I'm about to join them. So unless you can convince me otherwise... -- Andreas Mohr Stauferstr. 6, D-71272 Renningen, Germany Tel. +49 7159 800604 http://home.nexgo.de/andi.mohr/

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: WinSpool Ordinal Addition

by Mark G. Adams

On January 11, 2002 01:23 am, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > "Mark G. Adams" <mgadams(a)sympatico.ca> wrote: > > The fact that it worked with different functions there did surprise me. > > My assumption (not having a good idea on how ordinal importing works) was > > that, at this point, it's just checking for the presence of a function > > but not executing it. Very little of the application works under WINE, so > > I'm not able to actually test out printing currently. > > > > Given the above, I agree there's no point in assigning ordinals to those > > two functions. > > Could you please test the attached patch which implements the ordinal base > functionality in winebuild and sets ordinal base 100 for WINSPOOL.DRV? Thanks, the patch does quiet the error message seen at startup. However, as stated above, I can't actually test out printing since very little works currently. //Mark

Jan. 11, 2002

Re: WinSpool Ordinal Addition

by Dmitry Timoshkov

"Mark G. Adams" <mgadams(a)sympatico.ca> wrote: > The fact that it worked with different functions there did surprise me. My > assumption (not having a good idea on how ordinal importing works) was that, > at this point, it's just checking for the presence of a function but not > executing it. Very little of the application works under WINE, so I'm not > able to actually test out printing currently. > > Given the above, I agree there's no point in assigning ordinals to those two > functions. Could you please test the attached patch which implements the ordinal base functionality in winebuild and sets ordinal base 100 for WINSPOOL.DRV? -- Dmitry.

Jan. 11, 2002