February 2002 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

RE: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

by Patrik Stridvall

> I received this today... it seems Lindows seem to want to host a Wine > conference. I noticed that they misspelled Alexandre's name and email > address, though they claim to work with him. Well, I'm not suprised. I'm not 100% sure how his last name is spelled. I usually cut and paste or more often, only use his first name. :-) > Since this is > supposed to be > an open conference anyway, and it's not a secret (most of the > mail is just > a straight dump of the webpage they link to anyway), I > decided to forward > it to wine-devel (but without the HTML). Hmm. I noticed people on the special invitition list (that get air transportion payed) must register by 13th February, 2002. It is only a week until then, they could have given us some more time to consider it, I think. Anyway, I'm slightly intrested in coming. Providing of course that at least a few of the Wine people will come. I'm not particularly intrested in travelling at least 12 hours by air to only talk to the Lindows.com people. Anybody else interested? PS. Does anybody know if a VISA to the US is required for citizens of the European Union countries (like Sweden)?

Feb. 6, 2002

Re: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

by J.Brown (Ender/Amigo)

For those coming internationally, just hope that Microsoft isn't waiting at the airport with a bunch of DCMA lawyers to arrest you :) Mind you, M$ wouldn't do that because they don't like to admit that Linux, Wine, or anything else actually exists. Regards, | It's always bad news in computing.. and beware | of anything claming to be good news - because | its probably a virus. - Salmon Days Ender | (James Brown) | [Nehahra, EasyCuts, PureLS, www.QuakeSrc.org] On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Ove Kaaven wrote: > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 04:41:24 +0100 (CET) > From: Ove Kaaven <ovehk(a)ping.uio.no> > To: wine-devel(a)winehq.com > Subject: (FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002 > > I received this today... it seems Lindows seem to want to host a Wine > conference. I noticed that they misspelled Alexandre's name and email > address, though they claim to work with him. Since this is supposed to be > an open conference anyway, and it's not a secret (most of the mail is just > a straight dump of the webpage they link to anyway), I decided to forward > it to wine-devel (but without the HTML). > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:21:18 -0800 > From: Cheryl Schwarzman <cheryl(a)lindows.com> > To: uczekalla(a)codeweavers.com, andi(a)rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de, > andrew(a)transgaming.com, aric(a)codeweavers.com, > bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de, brianv(a)ski-copper.com, > dimi(a)cs.toronto.edu, dmitry(a)codeweavers.com, ekohl(a)codeweavers.com, > eric.pouech(a)wanadoo.fr, fgouget(a)free.fr, franciosj(a)macadamian.com, > galberte(a)neo.lrun.com, gav(a)transgaming.com, gerard.patel(a)asi.fr, > hdavies(a)codeweavers.com, james(a)macadamian.com, jasonfilby(a)yahoo.com, > jefft(a)xandros.com, juilliard(a)codeweavers.com, jwhite(a)codeweavers.com, > lionel.ulmer(a)free.fr, marcus(a)jet.franken.de, mike_mccormack(a)start.com.au, > ovek(a)transgaming.com, ps(a)leissner.se, ridgway(a)winehq.com, > sanderv(a)xs4all.nl, tephane(a)macadamian.com > Subject: Announcing wineconf 2002 > > Announcing wineconf 2002 > > We believe 2002 is the year WINE really breaks through to have a major > impact on computing. Many of you have had the vision and dedication long > before Lindows.com was around. And it's all of you who deserve the credit. > > As a small token of our gratitude, we want to do our best to host the > first conference dedicated to WINE called wineconf. As the host, > Lindows.com will pay the cost of putting on the conference including > venue, food and other necessary arrangements. The agenda and speakers will > be the members of the WINE community. It will be a two day event on Friday > and Saturday where new ideas can be shared, new connections made, and you > can hear from the best and brightest pushing the WINE initiative forward. > We have dubbed the event wineconf and it will be open to all who wish to > attend. We don't expect a large crowd given the highly technical focus. > > Working with lead WINE mind, Alexandre Juilliard, we have come up with a > list of people whose historic contributions to WINE deserve extra > recognition. To this group, we're making a special offer by picking up > their airfare to and from San Diego for this event. This is Lindows.com > way of thanking those who have made contributions in the past to get WINE > to the level it is at. We will notify you personally, if you are in this > list. If you are not on this list, you are still welcome to attend with > no registration fee, but you will be responsible for your own > transportation. Hotel costs will range from $75-125 per night. > > The agenda will be sent out several weeks before the conference outlining > the topics and speakers. We will be working with attendees and speakers to > ensure we touch all the areas of interest. > > wineconf will be held in San Diego, CA on March 15th-16th, 2002. We > selected San Diego for two primary reasons. First, because it's our home > town we can keep the costs down on the venue, transportation, computer > facilities, etc. Like all startups (that weren't born in 1999!), we have a > finite budget we're trying to stretch as far as possible. Secondly, since > WINE is a worldwide effort there's no ideally centralized location, so we > selected a place that should be nice and warm in March. (San Diego is 25 > minutes south of LA by plane or 1.5 hours by car.) > > The specific agenda will be forthcoming as we work with WINE contributors > to get their input and guidance. You can register online by going here: > www.lindows.com/wineconf > > We hope you can make it! > > Registration Form: > > First Name: > Last Name: > Email: > Company: > Address: > City: > State: > Zip: > Country: > Phone: > > Topics You Would Like To See Discussed: > > Speakers You Would Like To Hear From: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Optional Part (for those we will be paying for air transportation) > > Because of your past contributions to WINE, Lindows.com is offering to > arrange and pay for airfare from a nearby major metropolitan area to San > Diego for you to attend wineconf 2002. This offer is non-transferable. > Your flight would depart on Thursday, March 14th and return on Sunday, > March 17th. > > To qualify, by February 13th, 2002, you must: > > 1. Register online at http://lindows.com/wineconf (enter your name for > the "Invitation Code"). 2. Send an email to cheryl(a)lindows.com with the > below cancellation payment information. > > You will need to agree that if you do not attend that you will pay for > all costs incurred by Lindows.com related to airfare arrangements. Your > credit card will ONLY be billed if you do not attend after saying that > you will. > > Hope to see you in San Diego! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > NOTE: In addition to registering at http://lindows.com/wineconf, we must > receive the below information no later than February 13th, 2002 (e-mail > this to cheryl(a)lindows.com) After that date, this offer is no longer > valid. > > I agree to attend wineconf 2002 March 14-15th in San Diego and > understand that Lindows.com will be paying for my airfare. If I do not > attend, I understand that I will have to pay for the costs incurred in > the scheduling of this airfare. > > <"yes I agree." and your name here> > > Exact name on passport or ID: <put your name here> > Nearest Major Airport: <put your city and country here> > > Credit Card Type: <card type> > Credit Card Number: <card number> > Credit Card Expiration Date: <exp date> > > Please remember to travel with picture ID, passport and VISA if > required. > > Further information can be found here http://www.lindows.com/wineconf > > > > >

Feb. 6, 2002

Re: flaky regression(?) - patch.py?id=1012510895681951425038278

by Francois Gouget

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 lawson_whitney(a)juno.com wrote: [...] > This fixes the problem I reported. Maybe we should make the filename > longer to accomodate the trailing \0, maybe because it is a fixed > length, the trailing \0 is gratuitous, but as it was, that stepped all > over bigBlockSizeBits, generally disrupted my app, and looks sort of > like an off by one error. I'll attach a copy in case your mailer folds > it. I don't know what the code is supposed to do so I cannot comment much on your patch. But it looks reasonable. But this file contains quite a few other cases that are definitely not reasonable: Context: struct StorageImpl { ... WCHAR filename[PROPERTY_NAME_BUFFER_LEN]; .. }; * in StorageBaseImpl_RenameElement() StorageBaseImpl_CreateStream() StorageImpl_CreateStorage() renamedProperty.sizeOfNameString = ( lstrlenW(pwcsNewName)+1 ) * sizeof(WCHAR); if (renamedProperty.sizeOfNameString > PROPERTY_NAME_BUFFER_LEN) return STG_E_INVALIDNAME; strcpyW(renamedProperty.name, pwcsNewName); Should not cause crashes but shouldn't the test be: renamedProperty.sizeOfNameString > PROPERTY_NAME_BUFFER_LEN*sizeof(WCHAR) Although this is a contrieved way to put it. * StorageImpl_ReadProperty() WCHAR *propName = (index == This->rootPropertySetIndex) ? This->filename : (WCHAR *)currentProperty+OFFSET_PS_NAME; memset(buffer->name, 0, sizeof(buffer->name)); memcpy( buffer->name, propName, PROPERTY_NAME_BUFFER_LEN ); - Do we really have a garantee that there will be PROPERTY_NAME_BUFFER_LEN bytes available for memcpy to copy? (grrr, just saw that OFFSET_PS_NAME==0, still you either suppose it's 0 or not) - Furthermore since this is bytes, there could be as much as 2*PROPERTY_NAME_BUFFER_LEN bytes to copy! - What's the point of the memset by the way? -> a unicode strncpy seems indicated * StorageImpl_WriteProperty -> pretty much the same problem -- Francois Gouget fgouget(a)free.fr http://fgouget.free.fr/ Cahn's Axiom: When all else fails, read the instructions.

Feb. 6, 2002

Re: flaky regression(?) - patch.py?id=1012510895681951425038278

by lawson_whitney＠juno.com

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 lawson_whitney(a)juno.com wrote: > I'll see if Eric's recent patches help, and/or running it on a > wineconsole instead of a linux virtual console or xterm. The patches I was thinking of were already committed. DebugBreak() works fine when the Winelib program is run with wineconsole (as long as stdin is a terminal, not a file or a pipe), but I got so lost in ICOM_THIS that I couldn't lead winedbg to the variable I wanted it to watch. Fortunately, If I take on faith that comments do not cause errors (even with ICOM), that patch doesn't actually _do_ very much, and I hit it on the second guess. This fixes the problem I reported. Maybe we should make the filename longer to accomodate the trailing \0, maybe because it is a fixed length, the trailing \0 is gratuitous, but as it was, that stepped all over bigBlockSizeBits, generally disrupted my app, and looks sort of like an off by one error. I'll attach a copy in case your mailer folds it. diff -ur was/dlls/ole32/storage32.c is/dlls/ole32/storage32.c --- was/dlls/ole32/storage32.c Mon Feb 4 17:31:22 2002 +++ is/dlls/ole32/storage32.c Tue Feb 5 22:11:20 2002 @@ -5615,7 +5615,7 @@ /* prepare the file name string given in lieu of the root property name */ GetFullPathNameW(pwcsName, MAX_PATH, fullname, NULL); memcpy(newStorage->filename, fullname, PROPERTY_NAME_BUFFER_LEN); - newStorage->filename[PROPERTY_NAME_BUFFER_LEN] = '\0'; + newStorage->filename[PROPERTY_NAME_BUFFER_LEN-1] = '\0'; /* * Get an "out" pointer for the caller. Lawson Installation is performed in the reverse order of removal. - British Leyland shop manual

Feb. 6, 2002

(FWD) Announcing wineconf 2002

by Ove Kaaven

I received this today... it seems Lindows seem to want to host a Wine conference. I noticed that they misspelled Alexandre's name and email address, though they claim to work with him. Since this is supposed to be an open conference anyway, and it's not a secret (most of the mail is just a straight dump of the webpage they link to anyway), I decided to forward it to wine-devel (but without the HTML). ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 14:21:18 -0800 From: Cheryl Schwarzman <cheryl(a)lindows.com> To: uczekalla(a)codeweavers.com, andi(a)rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de, andrew(a)transgaming.com, aric(a)codeweavers.com, bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de, brianv(a)ski-copper.com, dimi(a)cs.toronto.edu, dmitry(a)codeweavers.com, ekohl(a)codeweavers.com, eric.pouech(a)wanadoo.fr, fgouget(a)free.fr, franciosj(a)macadamian.com, galberte(a)neo.lrun.com, gav(a)transgaming.com, gerard.patel(a)asi.fr, hdavies(a)codeweavers.com, james(a)macadamian.com, jasonfilby(a)yahoo.com, jefft(a)xandros.com, juilliard(a)codeweavers.com, jwhite(a)codeweavers.com, lionel.ulmer(a)free.fr, marcus(a)jet.franken.de, mike_mccormack(a)start.com.au, ovek(a)transgaming.com, ps(a)leissner.se, ridgway(a)winehq.com, sanderv(a)xs4all.nl, tephane(a)macadamian.com Subject: Announcing wineconf 2002 Announcing wineconf 2002 We believe 2002 is the year WINE really breaks through to have a major impact on computing. Many of you have had the vision and dedication long before Lindows.com was around. And it's all of you who deserve the credit. As a small token of our gratitude, we want to do our best to host the first conference dedicated to WINE called wineconf. As the host, Lindows.com will pay the cost of putting on the conference including venue, food and other necessary arrangements. The agenda and speakers will be the members of the WINE community. It will be a two day event on Friday and Saturday where new ideas can be shared, new connections made, and you can hear from the best and brightest pushing the WINE initiative forward. We have dubbed the event wineconf and it will be open to all who wish to attend. We don't expect a large crowd given the highly technical focus. Working with lead WINE mind, Alexandre Juilliard, we have come up with a list of people whose historic contributions to WINE deserve extra recognition. To this group, we're making a special offer by picking up their airfare to and from San Diego for this event. This is Lindows.com way of thanking those who have made contributions in the past to get WINE to the level it is at. We will notify you personally, if you are in this list. If you are not on this list, you are still welcome to attend with no registration fee, but you will be responsible for your own transportation. Hotel costs will range from $75-125 per night. The agenda will be sent out several weeks before the conference outlining the topics and speakers. We will be working with attendees and speakers to ensure we touch all the areas of interest. wineconf will be held in San Diego, CA on March 15th-16th, 2002. We selected San Diego for two primary reasons. First, because it's our home town we can keep the costs down on the venue, transportation, computer facilities, etc. Like all startups (that weren't born in 1999!), we have a finite budget we're trying to stretch as far as possible. Secondly, since WINE is a worldwide effort there's no ideally centralized location, so we selected a place that should be nice and warm in March. (San Diego is 25 minutes south of LA by plane or 1.5 hours by car.) The specific agenda will be forthcoming as we work with WINE contributors to get their input and guidance. You can register online by going here: www.lindows.com/wineconf We hope you can make it! Registration Form: First Name: Last Name: Email: Company: Address: City: State: Zip: Country: Phone: Topics You Would Like To See Discussed: Speakers You Would Like To Hear From: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Optional Part (for those we will be paying for air transportation) Because of your past contributions to WINE, Lindows.com is offering to arrange and pay for airfare from a nearby major metropolitan area to San Diego for you to attend wineconf 2002. This offer is non-transferable. Your flight would depart on Thursday, March 14th and return on Sunday, March 17th. To qualify, by February 13th, 2002, you must: 1. Register online at http://lindows.com/wineconf (enter your name for the "Invitation Code"). 2. Send an email to cheryl(a)lindows.com with the below cancellation payment information. You will need to agree that if you do not attend that you will pay for all costs incurred by Lindows.com related to airfare arrangements. Your credit card will ONLY be billed if you do not attend after saying that you will. Hope to see you in San Diego! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTE: In addition to registering at http://lindows.com/wineconf, we must receive the below information no later than February 13th, 2002 (e-mail this to cheryl(a)lindows.com) After that date, this offer is no longer valid. I agree to attend wineconf 2002 March 14-15th in San Diego and understand that Lindows.com will be paying for my airfare. If I do not attend, I understand that I will have to pay for the costs incurred in the scheduling of this airfare. <"yes I agree." and your name here> Exact name on passport or ID: <put your name here> Nearest Major Airport: <put your city and country here> Credit Card Type: <card type> Credit Card Number: <card number> Credit Card Expiration Date: <exp date> Please remember to travel with picture ID, passport and VISA if required. Further information can be found here http://www.lindows.com/wineconf

Feb. 6, 2002

Re: flaky regression(?) - patch.py?id=1012510895681951425038278

by lawson_whitney＠juno.com

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Francois Gouget wrote: > A Winelib program should be able to use any of the above except > getpwuid() and syslog(). If they use those then they will not run on > Windows. But they can use them as long as they link with the Unix C > library... > Thanks for that. > > > or is DebugBreak() wrong for a Winelib program? > > DebugBreak() should work, at least on x86, it's just an asm("int3"). > But most likely what happens is that there is a problem in the exception > handling. > Well, one problem is that the winelib program was accustomed to run with stdin assigned to a file or pipe. That seems to confuse winedbg, so I moved it for now to a different fd. That give me one winedbg prompt, but if I tell it to cont, it spews endless syntax errors. I'll see if Eric's recent patches help, and/or running it on a wineconsole instead of a linux virtual console or xterm. > > -- > Francois Gouget fgouget(a)free.fr http://fgouget.free.fr/ > Hiroshima '45 - Czernobyl '86 - Windows '95 > Thanks! We'll get it eventually. Lawson

Feb. 5, 2002

RE: Header files not present on Windows

by Patrik Stridvall

> Patrik Stridvall <ps(a)leissner.se> writes: > > > Hmm. I'm note sure I like making unistd.h > > an optional header but then few part of > > Wine should include it anyway so perhaps > > it doesn't matter. > > The question is whether you can build without it. If the needed > definitions are provided by other includes then it's fine to make it > optional; but if the code doesn't compile without it then there's no > point in having a check. Yes and in many cases it did work without unistd.h, but maybe that is because it really wasn't needed at all. In some case it might have worked because some of the functions in unistd.h is defined else where in Windows and in some case we might get it to work by including needed files. Of course in such cases we probably should fix Wine and include that other header exclusively instead of unistd.h. Anyway, I just experimented a little trying to get Wine to compile under Windows. I'm not really sure exacly what to do. Eventually I guess that the non-core DLL:s never should call any non Windows functions at all and the core DLL:s are not really useful to compile and run under Windows anyway.

Feb. 5, 2002

Re: Header files not present on Windows

by Alexandre Julliard

Patrik Stridvall <ps(a)leissner.se> writes: > Hmm. I'm note sure I like making unistd.h > an optional header but then few part of > Wine should include it anyway so perhaps > it doesn't matter. The question is whether you can build without it. If the needed definitions are provided by other includes then it's fine to make it optional; but if the code doesn't compile without it then there's no point in having a check. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.com

Feb. 5, 2002

Re: flaky regression(?) - patch.py?id=1012510895681951425038278

by Francois Gouget

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 lawson_whitney(a)juno.com wrote: > On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 lawson_whitney(a)juno.com wrote: > > > If I have to use the debugger interface I know about, I will have to > > refine the model a bit. > > putting DebugBreak() in the Winelib program seems to get me a recursive > access violation (c0000005). Hmmm, should a Winelib program not use > malloc()? What should it use instead (please not from a windose c > runtime dll). Should it not use getpwuid()? open()? syslog()? > snprintf()? Surely memcpy() is all right? A Winelib program should be able to use any of the above except getpwuid() and syslog(). If they use those then they will not run on Windows. But they can use them as long as they link with the Unix C library... > or is DebugBreak() wrong for a Winelib program? DebugBreak() should work, at least on x86, it's just an asm("int3"). But most likely what happens is that there is a problem in the exception handling. -- Francois Gouget fgouget(a)free.fr http://fgouget.free.fr/ Hiroshima '45 - Czernobyl '86 - Windows '95

Feb. 5, 2002

Re: flaky regression(?) - patch.py?id=1012510895681951425038278

by lawson_whitney＠juno.com

On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 lawson_whitney(a)juno.com wrote: > If I have to use the debugger interface I know about, I will have to > refine the model a bit. putting DebugBreak() in the Winelib program seems to get me a recursive access violation (c0000005). Hmmm, should a Winelib program not use malloc()? What should it use instead (please not from a windose c runtime dll). Should it not use getpwuid()? open()? syslog()? snprintf()? Surely memcpy() is all right? or is DebugBreak() wrong for a Winelib program? Lawson ---Gone fission.--- ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Feb. 5, 2002