July 2002 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

Graphical Configuration-Tool for wine.conf

by Clemens Eisserer

Hi! I'm one of two web-masters of www.linux-wine.de . Many people in our forum asked for a graphical frontend to the wine.config. And because google didnt find anything, I've just wrote a prototype. Its written in Java, is compiled to a native-Linux program via gcj and uses java-gtk as toolkit. It is nearyl as fast as a C++ program, but coding is much faster und easier. And (for all GNU-fanatics) its fully GPL-compatible.... My problem is, that I dont know all options of the config-file. Till now I only implemented the options which stands in my wine-config, including the ;-Entries. Only the specific-program settings are not iplemented, its too hard to make this part GUI-based (I'm so sorry, but my english is terrible). Is there somewhere an overview over all avaible options? Is such a tool already avaible, or an existing codebase? Please note that Jine (Jawy after the rewrite) isnt ready for use. O.K it does work, but the code is awful and I'm currently working on a rewrite. May I ask wine-questions for this tool at this list? Thx , Linuxhippy

July 6, 2002

Re: Graphical Configuration-Tool for wine.conf

by Andreas Mohr

On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 12:44:58AM +0200, Clemens Eisserer wrote: > Hi! > > I'm one of two web-masters of www.linux-wine.de . Many people in our > forum asked for a graphical frontend to the wine.config. Ah. > And because google didnt find anything, I've just wrote a prototype. Its Huh ? winesetup(tk) has been known for ages... (http://wine.codeweavers.com etc.) But a second program for this kind of task is always a good idea anyway. > My problem is, that I dont know all options of the config-file. Till now > I only implemented the options which stands in my wine-config, including > the ;-Entries. Only the specific-program settings are not iplemented, > its too hard to make this part GUI-based (I'm so sorry, but my english > is terrible). Is there somewhere an overview over all avaible options? Well, the second-best reference is the Wine User Guide. The best reference is the Wine source, of course ;-) > May I ask wine-questions for this tool at this list? Of course. Hmm, I thought that "Chanel" was some kind of perfume brand ? ;-) I also thought that Windows dialogs usually have "OK" and "Cancel" ? -- Microsoft Licensing 6.0: "Pay us now in advance, so that we can own you later."

July 6, 2002

Re: Strange behaviour -- app starts only with --debugmsg+snoop

by Andreas Mohr

On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 10:52:30PM +0200, Max wrote: > AutoCAD again ! > After finally R14 runs fine, i'm trying with AutoCAD 2000. > Setup goes ok (besides usual VBA problem). > Starting with 'wine acad' gives a very early error of unhandled access > violation. > I tried to start it with --debugmsg +snoop to see what happened and, surprise, > app starts up quite good. > It then hangs much later, but that's another problem. > So the question : how it's possible that requesting snoop messages bypasses > the initial access violation ? I think that snoop adds only a thunk to calls > on native dlls.... No, AFAIK +snoop stuff does some additional "housekeeping" work, like initializing/correcting stack and stuff. This crash could probably be caused by - API functions with wrong number of parameters (in .spec etc) - buffers uninitialized by Wine's function implementations even though they should be - some other random stack trashing or so -- Microsoft Licensing 6.0: "Pay us now in advance, so that we can own you later."

July 6, 2002

Re: Strange behaviour -- app starts only with --debugmsg+snoop

by Uwe Bonnes

>>>>> "Max" == Max <max(a)veneto.com> writes: Max> AutoCAD again ! After finally R14 runs fine, i'm trying with Max> AutoCAD 2000. Setup goes ok (besides usual VBA problem). Starting Max> with 'wine acad' gives a very early error of unhandled access Max> violation. I tried to start it with --debugmsg +snoop to see what Max> happened and, surprise, app starts up quite good. It then hangs Max> much later, but that's another problem. So the question : how it's Max> possible that requesting snoop messages bypasses the initial access Max> violation ? I think that snoop adds only a thunk to calls on native Max> dlls.... Any suggestion appreciated ! If I remember right, this behaviour is a sign of "stack smashing", that means, the stack got overwritten in some place and causes a crash in some other , mostly unrelated place. Sometimes you can get some hints for the cause of that error by running with --debugmsg +heap. That makes things much slower, but checks the heap on every heap allocation and aborts on the first encountered error. Then the smashing must be in between the last allocation and the error. Running with +relay helps you pinpoint. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

July 6, 2002

Re: Apps that installs VBA

by Andreas Mohr

On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 10:43:02PM +0200, Max wrote: > Installing AutoCAD 14, I get everytimes an error telling that VBA (visual > basic for applications) cannot be installed (the messagebox tells a very very > meaningful 'error 18' (sigh) and aborts VBA setup). > As I've seen that someone is working on visual basic apps (maybe Ann and Jason > Edmeades ?), does someone have an idea of the solution ? Yes, the solution is to - run wine --debugmsg +relay,+ole,+typelib MyPrg.exe &>/tmp/wine_vba.log - bzip2 or gzip wine_vba.log - mail it to me ;-) -- Microsoft Licensing 6.0: "Pay us now in advance, so that we can own you later."

July 6, 2002

Re: Suggested bitmap coords resolve

by Andreas Mohr

On Sun, Jun 23, 2002 at 06:18:13PM +0300, P. Christeas wrote: > This patch resolves some trouble with bitmap drawing (DIBs), when the y-axis > uses negative mapping (LPtoDP). This makes Aut0CaD r. 14 usable under wine. > Please note bug #720, which was closed by this patch and note any problems w. > the patch. > > The second patch is a simple suggestion about a NULL handler. IMHO all NULLs > coming from external programs-libs should be handled in a prog. In that case, > a NULL causes no harm, but I guess my 'early test' may introduce a minor > speedup. "Am I right?" No, IMO this is not correct. If Windows doesn't handle NULLs, then we shouldn't either. How are we supposed to detect problems with our API implementation if all we ever do is handle every single problem gracefully ? That way we'll never find out about that grave implementation problem of ours leading to a NULL value... -- "My attitude is, everybody should try competing with Microsoft once in their life. Once." - Marc Andreessen, former Netscape lead employee, in a "browser wars" interview

July 6, 2002

Re: Apps that installs VBA

by Max

hmmm... on second thought, not so quick nor unexpensive solution.... The log is "only" 1.4 GigaBytes, I guess it's unmailable even if well compressed ! I'll try tomorrow to cut off the interesting part before mailing ! Regards Max

July 6, 2002

Re: Apps that installs VBA

by Max

well, that's what I mean for a quick and inexpensive solution :-) Just reinstalling it and send you logs ! Regards Max Alle 23:27, sabato 6 luglio 2002, hai scritto: > On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 10:43:02PM +0200, Max wrote: > > Installing AutoCAD 14, I get everytimes an error telling that VBA (visual > > basic for applications) cannot be installed (the messagebox tells a very > > very meaningful 'error 18' (sigh) and aborts VBA setup). > > As I've seen that someone is working on visual basic apps (maybe Ann and > > Jason Edmeades ?), does someone have an idea of the solution ? > > Yes, the solution is to > - run wine --debugmsg +relay,+ole,+typelib MyPrg.exe &>/tmp/wine_vba.log > - bzip2 or gzip wine_vba.log > - mail it to me > > ;-)

July 6, 2002

Strange behaviour -- app starts only with --debugmsg+snoop

by Max

AutoCAD again ! After finally R14 runs fine, i'm trying with AutoCAD 2000. Setup goes ok (besides usual VBA problem). Starting with 'wine acad' gives a very early error of unhandled access violation. I tried to start it with --debugmsg +snoop to see what happened and, surprise, app starts up quite good. It then hangs much later, but that's another problem. So the question : how it's possible that requesting snoop messages bypasses the initial access violation ? I think that snoop adds only a thunk to calls on native dlls.... Any suggestion appreciated ! Regards Max

July 6, 2002

Apps that installs VBA

by Max

Installing AutoCAD 14, I get everytimes an error telling that VBA (visual basic for applications) cannot be installed (the messagebox tells a very very meaningful 'error 18' (sigh) and aborts VBA setup). As I've seen that someone is working on visual basic apps (maybe Ann and Jason Edmeades ?), does someone have an idea of the solution ? Regards Max

July 6, 2002