January 2003 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

Re: Installshield 6 crash: ole trouble

by Mike Hearn

Would this be fixed by the work that's being done on Wines RPC implementation? Why exactly does an installer require such complex parts of OLE anyway? That seems like overkill for a self-extracting exe to me. On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 03:39, Dan Kegel wrote: > Bobby Bingham wrote: > > IIRC, InstallShield 6 can work if you copy stdole32.tlb from a real > > windows to wine's system directory. > > Yep, copying just that one file made things get a lot further! > After futzing around for half an hour, I finally convinced our > app to install. There appear to be a lot of rough edges > here; I had to turn on ole logging and run just the extracted > setup.exe (not the package-for-the-web wrapper) to get > things to work, and even then, I had to move the big background > window around, etc. Also, if things failed for any reason, > I had to kill leftover wine processes, or the next run would fail. > Still, this is progress! > > I'd like to help get wine to the point where it can run > this stuff cleanly. I suppose the inability to run the > package-for-the-web wrapper is the worst problem... I'll > try to track that down and provide more details. > > Thanks! > - Dan -- Mike Hearn <m.hearn(a)signal.qinetiq.com> QinetiQ - Malvern Technology Center

Jan. 21, 2003

Re: Old PROGMAN DDE service for creating icons?

by Dan Kegel

Dan Kegel wrote: > Hey folks, > I looked around on google for some discussion of this, but didn't find > anything. > What's the current thinking on making Wine able to handle > the DDE messages that old windows 3.1 apps used to > use to install program icons? > > In Microsoft Windows 3.1, this was handled by Progman.exe. > In win95 and later, I think it's handled by Explorer.exe. > > Should I perhaps add a DDE server to the placeholder > implementation of explorer I submitted last week? > > For what it's worth, I looked around for an example of a DDE > server written in C, and found one written in 1992: > http://www.the-oasis.net/thereef/files/c/ddeml.zip > (possibly written by bob.hartman(a)esoft.com, it's hard to tell). > That should come in handy as example source if we decide to do this. Anther possibly useful resource: http://www.angelfire.com/biz/rhaminisys/ddstudio.html And here's something we might want to emulate for testing: http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/dde.1.asp I'm vaguely tempted to write an xinetd for dde, so programs can accept dde messages on stdin and send responses via stdout :-) - Dan -- Dan Kegel http://www.kegel.com http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=78045

Jan. 21, 2003

Re: dlls/ddraw/dsurface/user.c and OWN_WINDOW & Worms World Party

by Jani Vaarala

I'm new to this list. I'll do that NEXT time. --jani --- Sylvain Petreolle <spetreolle(a)yahoo.fr> wrote: > hasnt got this list a size limitation ? > you really SHOULD have sent the logs directly to > him. > > the first you must have to do in a such case is to > compress it ! > > I took the logs, but they are huge, but I > > included here in the mail short clips from both of > the > > logs. The game does LOTS of lock/unlock: > > > > 1) DirectDrawSurface_Lock > > 2) DirectDrawSurface_BltFast > > 3) DirectDrawSurface_Unlock > > .... > > > > --jani > > > ===== > Sylvain Petreolle > spetreolle(a)users.sourceforge.net > Fight against Spam ! > http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html > ICQ #170597259 > > "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus, in > "Matrix". > > ___________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et > en fran�ais ! > Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Jan. 21, 2003

Buiz talk

by Uwe Bonnes

Hallo, on http://www.vnunet.com/News/1138118 Suse's Dan Homolka is cited with: > Dan Homolka, technical sales manager at SuSE, claimed that the vendor's > Linux environment actually runs Microsoft Office faster than Windows "mainly > because Linux is much better at context-switching". Suse Window support is based on Codeweavers Cross Office. Does this stand a real world test? Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

Jan. 21, 2003

Re: Installshield 6 crash: ole trouble

by Uwe Bonnes

>>>>> "Dan" == Dan Kegel <dank(a)kegel.com> writes: Dan> Bobby Bingham wrote: >> IIRC, InstallShield 6 can work if you copy stdole32.tlb from a real >> windows to wine's system directory. Dan> Yep, copying just that one file made things get a lot further! Be sure to use builtin ole32,oleaut32 and rpcrt4 and have the native std*.tbl in your windows directory. Bye -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

Jan. 21, 2003

Old PROGMAN DDE service for creating icons?

by Dan Kegel

Hey folks, I looked around on google for some discussion of this, but didn't find anything. What's the current thinking on making Wine able to handle the DDE messages that old windows 3.1 apps used to use to install program icons? In Microsoft Windows 3.1, this was handled by Progman.exe. In win95 and later, I think it's handled by Explorer.exe. Should I perhaps add a DDE server to the placeholder implementation of explorer I submitted last week? For what it's worth, I looked around for an example of a DDE server written in C, and found one written in 1992: http://www.the-oasis.net/thereef/files/c/ddeml.zip (possibly written by bob.hartman(a)esoft.com, it's hard to tell). That should come in handy as example source if we decide to do this. - Dan -- Dan Kegel http://www.kegel.com http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=78045

Jan. 21, 2003

RE: FW: shell32: SHChangeNotify is really Unicode/ANSI indifferent, take2

by Rolf Kalbermatter

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dmitry Timoshkov [mailto:dmitry(a)baikal.ru] > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:04 AM > To: Francois Gouget; Rolf Kalbermatter > Cc: wine-devel(a)winehq.com > Subject: Re: FW: shell32: SHChangeNotify is really > Unicode/ANSI indifferent, take2 > > > "Francois Gouget" <fgouget(a)free.fr> wrote: > > > On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Rolf Kalbermatter wrote: > > [...] > > > @@ -289,22 +257,11 @@ > > > LeaveCriticalSection(&SHELL32_ChangenotifyCS); > > > > > > /* if we allocated it, free it */ > > > - if(uFlags & SHCNF_PATHA) > > > + if (uFlags & SHCNF_PATHA || uFlags & SHCNF_PATHW) > > > { > > > > Just nitpicking (since Dimitrie is on vacation ;-): it's > probably not > > necessary but I would be more confortable if the above test had more > > parentheses: > > > > > + if ((uFlags & SHCNF_PATHA) || (uFlags & SHCNF_PATHW)) > > or even better form the effectiveness point of view: > > if (uFlags & (SHCNF_PATHA | SHCNF_PATHW)) Well, because of the values of the SHCNF constants if (uFlags & (SHCNF_PATHA | SHCNF_PATHW)) really is equal to if (uFlags & SHCNF_PATHW) but this one although correct looks highly unintuitive ;-). Rolf Kalbermatter

Jan. 21, 2003

Re: Installshield 6 crash: ole trouble

by Dan Kegel

Dan Kegel wrote: > Bobby Bingham wrote: > >> IIRC, InstallShield 6 can work if you copy stdole32.tlb from a real >> windows to wine's system directory. > > Yep, copying just that one file made things get a lot further! > After futzing around for half an hour, I finally convinced our > app to install. There appear to be a lot of rough edges > here; I had to turn on ole logging and run just the extracted > setup.exe (not the package-for-the-web wrapper) to get > things to work It looks like there's a Heisenbug here. If I run without logging, I get a window titled "Unhandled Exception", with contents "Error Number: 0x80040706 Description: Object reference not set Setup will now terminate." Intriguingly, this error message may be from a bug in Installshield itself; see http://www.installsite.org/pages/en/bugs_is60.htm I'll check to see what version of Installshield this setup.exe was built with. However, I wouldn't be suprised if there's a race condition here, seeing as how setup worked fine with logging on. - Dan -- Dan Kegel http://www.kegel.com http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=78045

Jan. 21, 2003

Re: Installshield 6 crash: ole trouble

by Marcus Meissner

On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 11:12:29PM -0800, Dan Kegel wrote: > Dan Kegel wrote: > >Bobby Bingham wrote: > > > >>IIRC, InstallShield 6 can work if you copy stdole32.tlb from a real > >>windows to wine's system directory. I will add a large message suggesting that. > >Yep, copying just that one file made things get a lot further! > >After futzing around for half an hour, I finally convinced our > >app to install. There appear to be a lot of rough edges > >here; I had to turn on ole logging and run just the extracted > >setup.exe (not the package-for-the-web wrapper) to get > >things to work > > It looks like there's a Heisenbug here. If I run without > logging, I get a window titled "Unhandled Exception", > with contents > "Error Number: 0x80040706 > Description: Object reference not set > Setup will now terminate." I have seen this on and off, but I thought I fixed it. Ciao, Marcus

Jan. 21, 2003

Re: 1995-era Microsoft MFCKIT installer fails to unpack one of its DLLs

by Dan Kegel

Greg Turner wrote: > On Monday 20 January 2003 09:34 pm, Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > >>looks like we should write tests for cabinet dll... >>did you try to run it with the native version ? > > yes, do. tests will be forthcoming, btw. Sure enough, native cabinet works! Thanks. Good luck on getting good test coverage. Once you think you've got a good test, and our cabinet passes the new tests, I'd be happy to retest on this real app. - Dan -- Dan Kegel http://www.kegel.com http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=78045

Jan. 21, 2003