January 2003 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

Re: Time

by Paul Millar

On Fri, 17 Jan 2003, Oliver Sampson wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:22:46 +0100, Rein Klazes <rklazes(a)xs4all.nl> > >On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:33:53 +0000, you wrote: > >> '15:32 +0000' == '16:32 CET' > >> > >> How's that? > > > >A clock in Central European Time zone is one hour beyond a clock that > >displays UTC. > > Then shouldn't it be "15:32 +0100" or "16:32 +0000"? Confusingly (or not, when you think about it), its the other way around: so, "16:32 CET" can be written "16:32 +0100". This is the same time as "15:32 +0000" or "15:32 UTC". So, whenever you want to convert from localtime to UTC you *subtract* the second number from the first. See rfc2822 for more details. HTH, ---- Paul Millar

Jan. 17, 2003

Re: Time

by Oliver Sampson

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:22:46 +0100, Rein Klazes <rklazes(a)xs4all.nl> wrote: >On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:33:53 +0000, you wrote: > > >> >> Thanks for being gentle. >> >> '15:32 +0000' == '16:32 CET' >> >> How's that? > >A clock in Central European Time zone is one hour beyond a clock that >displays UTC. Then shouldn't it be "15:32 +0100" or "16:32 +0000"? > >> >> > >> >Whether to post in UTC (as you do) or local time (what you expect) is >> >somewhere configurable in agent.ini. It does not affect the time as you >> >see in the messages pane, that should be the local time. >> >> I went looking for this in the help file, and couldn't find it. I >> don't want to post in UTC. But before I go jumping to the forte >> newsgroup, i just wanted to make sure that the tune call to the wine >> system was cool. > >agent.ini -> message -> GMTDate Thanks, searching the help for "Time Zone" didn't turn that one up. I've changed it, and now it displays the correct time (in the above example "16:32 + 0000" but I fear it's for the wrong reason. Shouldn't it really be sending email with GMTDate2=0 as 15:32+0100? Thanks, > >Rein. ==================================================== Oliver Sampson olsam(a)quickaudio.com http://www.oliversampson.com

Jan. 17, 2003

wine-releases has gone?

by Mike Hearn

Hi, On the Wine release notice it talks about a mailing list for large diffs between the releases, which would be useful for me (no cvs access at the moment at work), but the list appears to be dead, with no archives available. Is it still in use? -- Mike Hearn <m.hearn(a)signal.qinetiq.com> QinetiQ - Malvern Technology Center

Jan. 17, 2003

Re: Add check to SetMenuItemInfo

by Mike Hearn

Well, a conformance test would be most useful for being run on Windows, we already know what Wine does. So the fact that Delphi is faster to write stuff in than raw C is what motivated me to ask. Yes, there is a free object pascal compiler, i can't remember what it's called though On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 18:10, Greg Turner wrote: > On Thursday 16 January 2003 11:44 am, Mike Hearn wrote: > > I think you're right in that a full test case is needed, but I can't > > do that (at least, not in C, if Object Pascal is acceptable I might > > be able to do so). > > Why can't it be done in C, out of curiosity? Please forgive me if > paying attention to the rest of this thread would have answered this > question :( > > Also: I spent the past 5 years programming Object Pascal. It would be > great (for me, at least) if we could make tests in Object Pascal, but > it's hard for me to imagine how that could ever be a wine-compatible > approach? Is there even an OSS compiler for Object Pascal? Even if > there is such a thing, I don't think it would be of much utility > without the wine headers being also ported to Object Pascal, a huge > task in itself. > > Just wondering, no flame intended :) -- Mike Hearn <m.hearn(a)signal.qinetiq.com> QinetiQ - Malvern Technology Center

Jan. 17, 2003

RE: wine-devel digest, Vol 1 #1607 - 14 msgs

by Robert Shearman

> From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Schmied?=" <juergen.schmied(a)debitel.net> > To: wine-devel(a)winehq.com > Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:25:12 +0100 > Subject: shell - drag&drop > Reply-To: juergen.schmied(a)debitel.net > > Hi! > > Since some people recently did work on shell32... > > Is anybody doing this stuff? Yes, I assume you mean IDragSourceHelper and I DropTargetHelper. I have a working IDragSourceHelper and I am just cleaning up the patch, but I fear that we may not have the underlying WS_EX_TRANSPARENT and WS_EX_LAYERED styles implemented that are needed for IDropTargetHelper. UpdateLayeredWindow is also not present, but making a stub for it would probably break a few apps. > juergen > -- > juergen.schmied(a)debitel.net > FAX über T-Online Fax&Fon: 01805 060 334 316 35 (12Cent/Min) Rob

Jan. 17, 2003

Problems switching keyboards

by Shachar Shemesh

Hi, I have a problem when working with a one keyboard option for language switching, and would like your help. I am using the default X11 IL keyboard. This keyboard has two layouts - US English one and an alternate IL Hebrew one. I have instructed X to switch between the keyboards when pressing both shifts (the full command was "setxkbmap -option grp:shift_toggle,grp:switch,grp_led:scroll il", and it should work on your machine assuming you have the he_IL locale compiled). The problem is this. When I run "notepad" with the proper LANG settings (LANG=he_IL wine --debugmsg +keyboard notepad), I can type English ok. I can also type Hebrew ok if I don't perform a permanent switch (i.e. - pressing the right Alt and typing produces Hebrew ok). If I do perform the permenant switch (pressing both shifts), I get all-caps. After switching back, I still get allcaps unless I press the caps lock. The only way to get out of this deadlock is by togelling to Hebrew, pressing the caps lock, and toggeling back. I get the following messages on toggle: trace:keyboard:X11DRV_ToUnicode Found keycode 50 (0x32) trace:keyboard:KEYBOARD_MapDeadKeysym no character for dead keysym 0x0000fe0a err:keyboard:X11DRV_ToUnicode Please report: no char for keysym FE0A (ISO_Prev_Group) : err:keyboard:X11DRV_ToUnicode (virtKey=10,scanCode=2A,keycode=32,state=2001) trace:keyboard:X11DRV_KeyEvent Ignoring ISO_Next_Group keyboard event trace:keyboard:X11DRV_KeyEvent Ignoring ISO_Next_Group keyboard event trace:keyboard:X11DRV_KeyEvent Ignoring ISO_Prev_Group keyboard event I am out of my depth here on X. I will also note that I am not using the currently compiled Israeli keymap, but I have applied the attached patch (which I cannot seem to debug) Any help will be apretiated. Shachar Index: dlls/x11drv/keyboard.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/sun/sources/cvs/wine/dlls/x11drv/keyboard.c,v retrieving revision 1.17 diff -u -r1.17 keyboard.c --- dlls/x11drv/keyboard.c 7 Jan 2003 20:36:22 -0000 1.17 +++ dlls/x11drv/keyboard.c 17 Jan 2003 07:10:59 -0000 @@ -631,10 +631,10 @@ /*** Israeli keyboard layout */ static const char main_key_IL[MAIN_LEN][4] = { - "`~;","1!1","2(a)2","3#3","4$4","5%5","6^6","7&7","8*8","9(9","0)0","-_-","=+=", - "qQ/","wW'","eE÷","rRø","tTà","yYè","uUå","iIï","oOí","pPô","[{[","]}]", - "aAù","sSã","dDâ","fFë","gGò","hHé","jJç","kKì","lLê",";:ó","\'\",","\\|\\", - "zZæ","xXñ","cCá","vVä","bBð","nNî","mMö",",<ú",".>õ","/?." + "`~;~","1!1!","2(a)2@","3#3#","4$4$","5%5%","6^6^","7&7&","8*8*","9(9(","0)0)","-_-_","=+=+", + "qQ/Q","wW'W","eE÷E","rRøR","tTàT","yYèY","uUåU","iIïI","oOíO","pPôP","[{[{","]}]}", + "aAùA","sSãS","dDâD","fFëF","gGòG","hHéH","jJçJ","kKìK","lLêL",";:ó:","\'\",\"","\\|\\|", + "zZæZ","xXñX","cCáC","vVäV","bBðB","nNîN","mMöM",",<ú<",".>õ>","/?.?" }; /*** Greek keyboard layout (contributed by Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis(a)cti.gr>)

Jan. 17, 2003

Re: GPL winelib apps ok in tree? (was: Re: Implementation of "start" command)

by Shachar Shemesh

Dan Kegel wrote: > /me gets clue > > I read the source for cygstart. It's at > > http://www.neuro.gatech.edu/users/cwilson/cygutils-package/cygutils-1.1.3.t… > It's also a thin wrapper around ShellExecute, just like > my program, but they did put noticable work into that wrapper. > > The license for Cygstart is GPL, and I'm afraid that may be a problem > for merging. Would the leadership care to comment on whether > individual directories in wine/programs can be under the GPL? > - Dan > IANALBICCW1 (I am not a lawyer, but I can consult with one) As far as I can see it, winelib apps that do not export any functionality don't have to be LGPL stricly, without affecting the usability of Wine elsewhere. Personally, I don't see why the DLLs themselves have to be LGPL, as we don't seem to dynamically link with them anywhere, but that is besides the point. Shachar

Jan. 17, 2003

GPL winelib apps ok in tree? (was: Re: Implementation of "start" command)

by Dan Kegel

Dan Kegel wrote: > Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > >> Dan, >> It was already discussed when Dustin was trying to handle the >> autorun.inf files. >> If you want to do this, use cygstart. >> Could be funny if we merge it. >> >> http://www.winehq.com/hypermail/wine-devel/2002/12/0279.html > > > Cygwin is GPL, but the registry-sensing changes have to > go directly into ShellExecute, which is LGPL. > Emulating them in start is not really an option. /me gets clue I read the source for cygstart. It's at http://www.neuro.gatech.edu/users/cwilson/cygutils-package/cygutils-1.1.3.t… It's also a thin wrapper around ShellExecute, just like my program, but they did put noticable work into that wrapper. The license for Cygstart is GPL, and I'm afraid that may be a problem for merging. Would the leadership care to comment on whether individual directories in wine/programs can be under the GPL? - Dan -- Dan Kegel http://www.kegel.com http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=78045

Jan. 17, 2003

Away for 9 days

by Dimitrie O. Paun

Hi folks, I'll be away for 9 days starting tomorrow, skiing. Just in case you wonder whether I've fallen off the net. :) -- Dimi.

Jan. 17, 2003

(no subject)

by J. Wesley Cleveland

Jan. 16, 2003