January 2003 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

Re: Time

by Rein Klazes

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 13:33:53 +0000, you wrote: > > Thanks for being gentle. > > '15:32 +0000' == '16:32 CET' > > How's that? A clock in Central European Time zone is one hour beyond a clock that displays UTC. > > > > >Whether to post in UTC (as you do) or local time (what you expect) is > >somewhere configurable in agent.ini. It does not affect the time as you > >see in the messages pane, that should be the local time. > > I went looking for this in the help file, and couldn't find it. I > don't want to post in UTC. But before I go jumping to the forte > newsgroup, i just wanted to make sure that the tune call to the wine > system was cool. agent.ini -> message -> GMTDate Rein. -- Rein Klazes rklazes(a)xs4all.nl

Jan. 16, 2003

Re: Help wanted: Implementing Wine dlls that need access to X11 commands.

by Robert North

Enrico Horn farmboy1-at-subdimension.com |Wine Mailing Lists| wrote: > Hi, > On Wednesday 15 January 2003 19:09, Robert North wrote: > >>Robert North 7ownq0k402-at-sneakemail.com |Wine Mailing Lists| wrote: >> >>>>> Now, as it turns out, the methods to interrogate a wintab >>>>>message queue are extremely similar to those to interrogate an X11 >>>>>message queue. >>>>> So that's +1 to giving wintab it's own X11 message >>>>>queue. (Or possibly even one X11 msg queue per tablet context!). >>>>> A simple X11<->wintab mapping can be implemented, and no >>>>>additional queue data structs are needed in the wintab >>>>>implementation. >>>> >>>>I'm not convinced you can avoid managing an event queue for wintab >>>>events; from a quick look at the spec I doubt you can simply map the >>>>wintab functions to X11 queue functions. >>> >>>I'm about to have a final look at this, see if there is a clear mapping >>>from X11 functions to wintab. >>> >>>More on this once I've completed my investigations. >>> >>>One mismatch is that wintab uses a fixed size message queue which can be >>>defined as, as opposed to Wine or X11. >>>(I'm assuming wine or X11 are either extremely large queues, or >>>dynamically sized.). >> >>I've re-checked the X11 code, and you're right, the only sane way to map >>X11 events to a wintab queue is by coding an event queue for wintab. >> >>Thanks >> -Rob. > > Sorry if this seems like a stupid question. Don't think it is, It's the question I've ended up trying to answer when looking at how best to implement wintab. > Could you please elaborate what the problems between X11, DirectDraw, OpenGL > and accessing X11 functionality are. > I am not an expert in either area but like to understand the problem. I'm not the person to answer this, but answering it will help me clarify my own thoughts, and allow people to correct me :-) Well, it seems that wintab now has the concept of drivers, at least for graphics (&sound??) As I currently see it the problem is a question of policy: What should be in the x11drv dll (a private? dll) and what should be in the application facing dlls. Currently, the x11drv dll does not appear export any X11 data stuctures, or handles. Therefore my assumption is that code that interfaces with the X11 system should go in x11drv. This means that x11drv could become horribly bloated with support for specialist dlls like x11drv. Also, as I've mentioned before, x11drv is so important to the functioning of wine, unnecessary tinkering here gould cause nasty regressions. As Alexandre points out, wintab code need not interact much with current x11drv code, and therefore if well designed, will cause minimal regression risk. And yet, DirectDraw, OpenGL dlls do access the X11 system directly. How? By some clever hacks to get X11 display objects from gdi and X11 window handles from Wine window handles. And is this good policy? No. Lionel has pointed out that these dlls are bad examples of how to do it. So, what is the policy? I dunno. Maybe it's use your head? Hope this helps -Rob. > > Thanks > Enrico > > >

Jan. 16, 2003

Re: Time

by Michael Stefaniuc

On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 01:33:53PM +0000, Oliver Sampson wrote: > > Thanks for being gentle. > > '15:32 +0000' == '16:32 CET' > > How's that? "+0" is UTC, CET is "UTC+1" bye michael -- Michael Stefaniuc Tel.: +49-711-96437-199 System Administration Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 Red Hat GmbH Email: mstefani(a)redhat.com Hauptstaetterstr. 58 http://www.redhat.de/ D-70178 Stuttgart

Jan. 16, 2003

Re: Time

by Oliver Sampson

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:59:30 +0100, Rein Klazes <rklazes(a)xs4all.nl> wrote: >On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:33:03 +0000, you wrote: > >> Howdy, >> Forgive me if this is already known, but I checked the bug list and >> didn't see it. >> >> It would seem that when Agent makes a call to get the Wine system >> time, it's returned the BIOS time, but not the adjusted time zone. >> For example I have set in my KDE environment as the time and as CET >> (which is where I am.) You see that the time that this email was sent >> is actually around 15:32 instead of the real 16:32. > >You are wrong. Thanks for being gentle. '15:32 +0000' == '16:32 CET' How's that? > >Whether to post in UTC (as you do) or local time (what you expect) is >somewhere configurable in agent.ini. It does not affect the time as you >see in the messages pane, that should be the local time. I went looking for this in the help file, and couldn't find it. I don't want to post in UTC. But before I go jumping to the forte newsgroup, i just wanted to make sure that the tune call to the wine system was cool. Thanks, ==================================================== Oliver Sampson olsam(a)quickaudio.com http://www.oliversampson.com

Jan. 16, 2003

Re: FHS vs LSB

by Tom Wickline

Vincent Béron wrote: > Linux is not the only system on which Wine can be built (FreeBSD and > Solaris/SunOS comes to mind). The FHS covers various Unices, the LSB > covers only Linux. > And if Wine is distributed as a Windows application sometime in the > future... :) > > Vincent Okay, Ill leave it as is FHS just upade to show version 2.2 as the docs now show version 2.1 thanks for the info. Tom

Jan. 16, 2003

Re: Time

by Rein Klazes

On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:33:03 +0000, you wrote: > Howdy, > Forgive me if this is already known, but I checked the bug list and > didn't see it. > > It would seem that when Agent makes a call to get the Wine system > time, it's returned the BIOS time, but not the adjusted time zone. > For example I have set in my KDE environment as the time and as CET > (which is where I am.) You see that the time that this email was sent > is actually around 15:32 instead of the real 16:32. You are wrong. '15:32 +0000' == '16:32 CET' Whether to post in UTC (as you do) or local time (what you expect) is somewhere configurable in agent.ini. It does not affect the time as you see in the messages pane, that should be the local time. Rein. -- Rein Klazes rklazes(a)xs4all.nl

Jan. 16, 2003

Re: WINE in CD-ROM

by Vincent Béron

Le jeu 16/01/2003 à 03:50, Uwe Bonnes a écrit : > >>>>> "Jelcyn" == Jelcyn <jelcyn(a)send.pl> writes: > > Jelcyn> Hi, I write a book about editing binary files (Hex Workshop, > Jelcyn> Resource Hacker etc.) to polish Helion publishing > Jelcyn> (www.helion.pl) Can I add in CD-ROM in my book wine ?? > > You can redistribute winehq Wine accxording to the GNU License. Take note that it's the LGPL, the Library General Public License, not the GPL. It is included in the Wine archive as COPYING.LIB. Vincent

Jan. 16, 2003

Re: FHS vs LSB

by Vincent Béron

Le mer 15/01/2003 à 22:20, Tom Wickline a écrit : > In updating the Packagers Guide I plan to replace FHS with LSB > any objections ? > > FHS = http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ > > LSB = http://www.linuxbase.org/ > > Tom > > Linux is not the only system on which Wine can be built (FreeBSD and Solaris/SunOS comes to mind). The FHS covers various Unices, the LSB covers only Linux. And if Wine is distributed as a Windows application sometime in the future... :) Vincent

Jan. 16, 2003

Re: WINE in CD-ROM

by Uwe Bonnes

>>>>> "Jelcyn" == Jelcyn <jelcyn(a)send.pl> writes: Jelcyn> Hi, I write a book about editing binary files (Hex Workshop, Jelcyn> Resource Hacker etc.) to polish Helion publishing Jelcyn> (www.helion.pl) Can I add in CD-ROM in my book wine ?? You can redistribute winehq Wine accxording to the GNU License. -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

Jan. 16, 2003

Re: Add filesytem type NTFS to config

by Philipp Wollermann

----- Original Message ----- From: "Philipp Wollermann" <phil_wo(a)gmx.net> > I just formatted a CDRW with Ahead InCD and Windows XP reports "FS_UDF" as > the filesystem.. (note, that WinXP still reports "NTFS", "FAT" and "CDFS"; > it seems as UDF is the only filesystem where "FS_" is prefixed to the > name..) Well, I just checked what happens if I insert a DVD: It reports just "UDF" as the filesystem.. maybe it's this InCD thing which has its own UDF driver (which is known to Windows as "FS_UDF" whereas the normal Windows UDF driver uses "UDF" as the name ...) Philipp

Jan. 16, 2003