January 2003 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

'95 and 2000 conformance test results

by Susan Pierce

Hello, I've attached the results of my Wine conformance testing. I'm sending in my text based Wordpad files because I did not see a recommended format for result submission. Is there one? I briefly considered hacking the html table and returning that as an attachment. Then I gave up and decided you would just like the info. Also, there is a problem on both my machines when I display the nice table of results: ntdll/rtlbitmap, ntdll/rtlstr, oleaut32/safearray, oleaut32/vartest, and rpcrt4/rpc show up in the html source but are not displayed by IE. I stared at the source for a while but I do not know enough html to be dangerous, let alone figure it out. I've downloaded the Wine source and thought I'd try my hand at fixing some of the problems. This has been fun. Thanks, Susan

Jan. 15, 2003

Re: Add filesytem type NTFS to config

by Sylvain Petreolle

No need to guess anything. Just re-read the Filesystems HOWTO. :) http://www.google.fr/search?q=filesystems+HOWTO&ie=ISO-8859-1&hl=fr&meta= > Not really guessing. Just providing a dump of my fuzzy memories of > past > experiences and stuff I read in the hope that it can guide your > search > about an exhaustive list of Windows supported filesystems. > > You asked: Any other thing I missed? ===== Sylvain Petreolle spetreolle(a)users.sourceforge.net Fight against Spam ! http://www.euro.cauce.org/en/index.html ICQ #170597259 "Don't think you are. Know you are." Morpheus, in "Matrix". ___________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com

Jan. 15, 2003

Re: Help wanted: Implementing Wine dlls that need access to X11 commands.

by Enrico Horn

Hi, On Wednesday 15 January 2003 19:09, Robert North wrote: > Robert North 7ownq0k402-at-sneakemail.com |Wine Mailing Lists| wrote: > >>> Now, as it turns out, the methods to interrogate a wintab > >>> message queue are extremely similar to those to interrogate an X11 > >>> message queue. > >>> So that's +1 to giving wintab it's own X11 message > >>> queue. (Or possibly even one X11 msg queue per tablet context!). > >>> A simple X11<->wintab mapping can be implemented, and no > >>> additional queue data structs are needed in the wintab > >>> implementation. > >> > >> I'm not convinced you can avoid managing an event queue for wintab > >> events; from a quick look at the spec I doubt you can simply map the > >> wintab functions to X11 queue functions. > > > > I'm about to have a final look at this, see if there is a clear mapping > > from X11 functions to wintab. > > > > More on this once I've completed my investigations. > > > > One mismatch is that wintab uses a fixed size message queue which can be > > defined as, as opposed to Wine or X11. > > (I'm assuming wine or X11 are either extremely large queues, or > > dynamically sized.). > > I've re-checked the X11 code, and you're right, the only sane way to map > X11 events to a wintab queue is by coding an event queue for wintab. > > Thanks > -Rob. Sorry if this seems like a stupid question. Could you please elaborate what the problems between X11, DirectDraw, OpenGL and accessing X11 functionality are. I am not an expert in either area but like to understand the problem. Thanks Enrico

Jan. 15, 2003

Re: The version info patches + d3d question

by EnricoHorn＠t-online.de

On Monday 13 January 2003 15:36, Patrik Stridvall wrote: > > Hi, > > The patches add version info to directx libraries. > > some games(for instance lucasarts games) wont run without > > finding a valid > > version of the directx files. > > OK. > > > the problem is they dont run even with the patches because > > they cant get > > version info from d3dim.dll and probably other d3d dlls. > > Yes, there are a lot of them, but don't see we any choice, > but to do what I suggest below. > > > since wine doesnt have these dlls how can wine give these > > programs the needed > > info or is it planned to split ddraw in a ddraw and a d3d component? > > We simply have to create one new directory in dlls/ for > each DirectX dll with an appropriate .spec file and a > version.rc. This would be quite easy to do AFAICS. > > Are you voluntering? I have done this. Its enough to satisfy the syscheck of Shadows of the Empire its not enough to convince the launcher to actually start the game. Patch will follow nevertheless. I have put all the functions as stubs in there that Raphael lists in his email. Ciao Enrico

Jan. 15, 2003

Re: Add filesytem type NTFS to config

by Philipp Wollermann

From: "Francois Gouget" <fgouget(a)free.fr> > [...] > At least you missed the filesystem used for CDRW: UDF. Again maybe the > function you are concerned about will call that CDFS or billfs. But now > you know that you need to ask someone with a CDRW drive to check what > the function returns for that drive. I just formatted a CDRW with Ahead InCD and Windows XP reports "FS_UDF" as the filesystem.. (note, that WinXP still reports "NTFS", "FAT" and "CDFS"; it seems as UDF is the only filesystem where "FS_" is prefixed to the name..) Philipp

Jan. 15, 2003

WINE in CD-ROM

by Jelcyn

Hi, I write a book about editing binary files (Hex Workshop, Resource Hacker etc.) to polish Helion publishing (www.helion.pl) Can I add in CD-ROM in my book wine ?? Damian Daszkiewicz

Jan. 15, 2003

Re: Add filesytem type NTFS to config

by Philipp Wollermann

From: "Keith Matthews" <keith_m(a)sweeney.demon.co.uk> > Perhaps we should be looking at it in another way ? for example does anyone > know of applications that use the fs type as a sort of 'work on 9X but > not NT' type of test. Given the variation of silly checks for the > registry this is a possibility and might be a major factor. I can't imagine any program beeing so silly to say "NTFS" = "Windows NT" and "FAT" = "Windows 9x", as you can install WinNT on a FAT partition.. but you never know. Why don't we make it configurable in the wine.conf (or is it?)? By the way we could get rid of this "win95" = "vfat" thing, else we would have to support "ntfs" = "winnt" as well. ;-) Philipp

Jan. 15, 2003

Re: Add filesytem type NTFS to config

by Francois Gouget

On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Tony Lambregts wrote: [...] > >AFAIK, read-write CDs use a special filesystem so they probably get > >their own value. Confirmed: you can use ISO9660 (or ext2fs for that matter), but if you want to use your CDRW as a big floppy drive on Windows, then you would use UDF (google CDRW UDF). > Samba probably reports whatever the share's underlying > >filesystem is (at least if the server is a Windows machine). IIRC, right-click -> Properties on a shared drive tells you what filesystem the remote computer is using for that filesystem. It does not mean that Windows is not returning some strange value in the function you are concerned about but I don't have a way of checking that. What about providing a test app that would enumerate drives and dump the values reported by Windows? > I suspect > >zip drives just use what the user chooses, i.e. FAT or VFAT, maybe FAT32 > >though that seems quite unnecessary given their limited size. Confirmed. I asked a collegue who has a Zip drive and they behave just like other removable media (floppies). So you use the usual way to format such things so what you get is a FAT disk. Depends on your Windows OS of course. On Windows 95 you would get VFAT, on Windows 98SE you may get FAT32 instead. Of course that does not mean that Windows is not checking that this is a Zip drive+FAT combination to return 'foobar' rather than just FAT. But it does seem relatively improbable. > AFAICS you are just guessing. I can do that... but it is not a good way > to build specs. Not really guessing. Just providing a dump of my fuzzy memories of past experiences and stuff I read in the hope that it can guide your search about an exhaustive list of Windows supported filesystems. You asked: Any other thing I missed? At least you missed the filesystem used for CDRW: UDF. Again maybe the function you are concerned about will call that CDFS or billfs. But now you know that you need to ask someone with a CDRW drive to check what the function returns for that drive. -- Francois Gouget fgouget(a)free.fr http://fgouget.free.fr/ tcA thgirypoC muinelliM latigiD eht detaloiv tsuj evah uoY

Jan. 15, 2003

Re: Help wanted: Implementing Wine dlls that need access to X11 commands.

by Robert North

Robert North 7ownq0k402-at-sneakemail.com |Wine Mailing Lists| wrote: > >> >> >>> Now, as it turns out, the methods to interrogate a wintab >>> message queue are extremely similar to those to interrogate an X11 >>> message queue. >>> So that's +1 to giving wintab it's own X11 message >>> queue. (Or possibly even one X11 msg queue per tablet context!). >>> A simple X11<->wintab mapping can be implemented, and no >>> additional queue data structs are needed in the wintab >>> implementation. >> >> >> >> I'm not convinced you can avoid managing an event queue for wintab >> events; from a quick look at the spec I doubt you can simply map the >> wintab functions to X11 queue functions. > > > > I'm about to have a final look at this, see if there is a clear mapping > from X11 functions to wintab. > > More on this once I've completed my investigations. > > One mismatch is that wintab uses a fixed size message queue which can be > defined as, as opposed to Wine or X11. > (I'm assuming wine or X11 are either extremely large queues, or > dynamically sized.). > > I've re-checked the X11 code, and you're right, the only sane way to map X11 events to a wintab queue is by coding an event queue for wintab. Thanks -Rob.

Jan. 15, 2003

Re: Add filesytem type NTFS to config

by Keith Matthews

On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:52:59 +0100 (CET) Sylvain Petreolle <spetreolle(a)yahoo.fr> wrote: > --- Tony Lambregts <tony_lambregts(a)telusplanet.net> a écrit : > > Sylvain Petreolle wrote: > > > > >Why not only change _small_ FAT to FAT32 ? > > > > > > > > > > > Well floppies are obviously not FAT32. No big deal but why stop at > > FAT32. Why not NTFS? > > > Im not against NTFS. It was just the lazy approach. > Perhaps we should be looking at it in another way ? for example does anyone know of applications that use the fs type as a sort of 'work on 9X but not NT' type of test. Given the variation of silly checks for the registry this is a possibility and might be a major factor.

Jan. 15, 2003