January 2003 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

Re: Winelib project

by Dimitrie O. Paun

On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Hans Christian Studt wrote: > The question is should we support source-three > or > should we get rid of > :$WINE_ROOT/tools/wrc:$WINE_ROOT/tools/winebuild > from WINE_TOOL_PATH Getting winegcc and winewrap work off of the source tree is not supported at the moment, as I said in an earlier email. It will take a lot more than pointing an environment variable, and it will not happen any time soon. Only after it stabilizes a bit should we consider modifying it to work from the tree. So for now, if you want to play with Winelib, you have to make install it, and use it like it's meant to be used. -- Dimi.

Jan. 31, 2003

Re: Guess who's back, back again... :)

by Shachar Shemesh

Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: >I wish I got paid :) No, I don't. In fact, I haven't made a dime >working on Wine. It would be nice to, so I can put more time in it, >but that's another story. I am a freelancer, and I had a bit more >time on my hands last year, but starting Jan 2003, things changed, >and I will not have as much time available (in fact, if I get 2h/day >to work on Wine I'll be happy). > If your'e now a freelancer with less free time, does that not mean you are now a freelancer making more money? That is, generally speaking, a good thing. > In other words, things will progress >a lot slower from now on. :( > > As someone who has just made the jump myself (quite my daytime job and became a freelancer, effective this Thursday), seeing someone else who has been a freelancer and has succeeded in both working on wine for a year AND finding a fuller time job is a very encouraging. Good luck, either way. Shachar

Jan. 31, 2003

Re: RPC marshalling patch

by Gregory M. Turner

On Friday 31 January 2003 02:22 am, Ove Kaaven wrote: > > http://www.opengroup.org/products/publications/catalog/t151x.htm > > I can't find any legalese there to the effect of signing away my > firstborn, they seem to just want purchase details. Care to elaborate? > (And is it still okay for me to code on Wine even if my firstborn can't?) > > > and here is some free-as-in-beer RPC 1.1 stuff: > > > > http://www.opengroup.org/products/publications/catalog/c706.htm > > And on there, they just want to borg the email addresses of every reader, > but not their souls or firstborns, as far as I can see. hehe, you are correct, they are more like, say, the Borland Community site than Rumplestiltskin. Of course, I was kidding about signing away your firstborn, although you do at least sign away any redistribution rights by downloading the free stuff. AFAIK OpenGroup/DCE controls the RPC spec -- expecting consumers to sign an NDA or something would kind of defeat their stated purpose of enhancing interoperability. There is one really significant open question left by their documentation: what is the gap between "MSRPC" and DCE RPC? I still can't decide whether this difference is just an API-level difference, or a full-blown wire-protocol incompatibility.... Luckily, we probably don't care too much -- ultimately, if we can make something that interoperates with Windows, we win, regardless of how well MS complied with the spec. The other thing I can't stand about their spec is the rediculous protocol state diagram style they use. Could they have /possibly/ made it more confusing and obscure? (Surely, the answer is yes, but it's pretty darn confusing). But, it helps. I shouldn't complain, considering what I paid for it. Combined with the pseudo-documentation of the format strings from MSDN, the Microsoft headers and MIDL output, the DCERPC source, tcpdump, etc., there's enough comprehensible clues out there to actually accomplish something -- it still feels pretty sparse to me, but I guess there's nothing I can do about that but forge ahead (or maybe shell out for the DCE package :) ) --gmt

Jan. 31, 2003

Re: Winelib project

by Dimitrie O. Paun

On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Hans Christian Studt wrote: > Be sure someone fix that in the CVS. There's nothing to fix in CVS. make install creates that link. Did you run make install? -- Dimi.

Jan. 31, 2003

Re: Winelib project

by Dimitrie O. Paun

On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Hans Christian Studt wrote: > I just build from the CVS and I now have > /usr/local/wine/tools/winegcc > but I canot find > wineg++ > > Should there be a symbolic link to winegcc or what ??? Yes, it's just a symbolic link: [dimi(a)dimi dimi]$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/wine* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 242956 Jan 15 21:09 /usr/local/bin/wine -rwxr-xr-x 13 root root 1594 Jan 15 21:09 /usr/local/bin/wineboot -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 396533 Jan 30 13:08 /usr/local/bin/winebuild -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 66714 Jan 15 21:09 /usr/local/bin/wineclipsrv -rwxr-xr-x 13 root root 1594 Jan 15 21:09 /usr/local/bin/wineconsole -rwxr-xr-x 13 root root 1594 Jan 15 21:09 /usr/local/bin/winedbg -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 287808 Jan 30 13:08 /usr/local/bin/winedump -rwxr-xr-x 13 root root 1594 Jan 15 21:09 /usr/local/bin/winefile lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jan 30 13:08 /usr/local/bin/wineg++ -> winegcc -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 51173 Jan 30 13:08 /usr/local/bin/winegcc -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 19864 Jan 15 21:09 /usr/local/bin/winelauncher -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 97085 Jan 30 13:08 /usr/local/bin/winemaker -rwxr-xr-x 13 root root 1594 Jan 15 21:09 /usr/local/bin/winemine -rwxr-xr-x 13 root root 1594 Jan 15 21:09 /usr/local/bin/winepath -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1372162 Jan 15 21:09 /usr/local/bin/wineserver -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5726 Jan 15 21:09 /usr/local/bin/wineshelllink -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 62872 Jan 30 13:08 /usr/local/bin/winewrap [dimi(a)dimi dimi]$ -- Dimi.

Jan. 31, 2003

Re: RPC marshalling patch

by Dimitrie O. Paun

On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Gregory M. Turner wrote: > still feels pretty sparse to me, but I guess there's nothing I can do about > that but forge ahead (or maybe shell out for the DCE package :) ) The DCE package is like $400USD. Not that bad. Maybe we can put some money togther (what about the Party Fund, that would be a good use of that money), and buy the DCE docs for the Wine project. I contribute $40USD, if other contribute to make the 400. -- Dimi.

Jan. 31, 2003

[RFC] Wine UI status (take 2)

by Dimitrie O. Paun

Hi folks, This is what I got after incorporating all of your suggestions: http://www.dssd.ca/wine/Wine-UI.html Please check it out, and help me: -- add any missing items -- complete the status, URL, etc for the items that miss it -- fix any incorrect information -- Dimi.

Jan. 31, 2003

Re: Guess who's back, back again... :)

by Dimitrie O. Paun

[Sorry guys, this one didn't make to the list...] On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Mike Hearn wrote: > Completely nosy of me, so feel free to tell me to piss off, but I've > been wondering if you get paid to work on Wine for a while now, or > whether you just make far more efficient use of your spare time than I > do :) I wish I got paid :) No, I don't. In fact, I haven't made a dime working on Wine. It would be nice to, so I can put more time in it, but that's another story. I am a freelancer, and I had a bit more time on my hands last year, but starting Jan 2003, things changed, and I will not have as much time available (in fact, if I get 2h/day to work on Wine I'll be happy). In other words, things will progress a lot slower from now on. :( -- Dimi.

Jan. 31, 2003

Re: common file dialogs

by Mike Hearn

Thanks. I wonder why I didn't see them before.... Marcus Meissner wrote: >On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 10:56:28AM +0000, Mike Hearn wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>Is there a reason that: >> >>a) The Wine open/save dialog boxes don't show or follow symlinks and >>b) They show dotfiles? >> >>I seem to recall a discussion on wine-devel way back on the topic of >>dotfiles, but a quick archive search didn't turn up much of use. At the >>very least I think it should be a pref, wading through lots of dotfiles >>in your home dir makes it much harder to open files with wine, and >>obviously non-technical users will wonder what is going on with all >>these stranges folders that I never made...... >> >> > >Check out the config file: > >[wine] >;"ShowDirSymlinks" = "1" >;"ShowDotFiles" = "1" > >Ciao, Marcus > > > > >

Jan. 31, 2003

Re: common file dialogs

by David Laight

> At the > very least I think it should be a pref, wading through lots of dotfiles > in your home dir makes it much harder to open files with wine, and > obviously non-technical users will wonder what is going on with all > these stranges folders that I never made...... maybe it'll make them clean up the mess in ~ mine gets full of .prxh0622a, .twmc0524a and .xsma0478b files (probably because I shutdown from within X) David -- David Laight: david(a)l8s.co.uk

Jan. 31, 2003