August 2004 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

Re: Fixed some ref handling

by Jacek Caban

I've sent today patch called "Fixed some ref handling". It should be called "Added polish translation to notepad". Sory for that. Jacek

Aug. 13, 2004

Re: Development model/versioning stuff: Interesting essay on why decentralised versioning is a bad idea

by Mike Hearn

> Well, if you agree with the article, you are basically saying that Alexandre > should let other people commit to the tree. Another way to read the article > is to say that 'wow, BK is exactly that we need in Wine because it matches > exactly the way we work' :-) I never said I agree with it, just that it was an interesting perspective on the cons of pyramid development that I hadn't seen before. I don't have a strong opinion either way (for once ;). Currently distributed development models are all the rage it seems so it's nice to have an alternate perspective. > Anyway, we already discussed this to death about one or two years ago. True :)

Aug. 13, 2004

Re: Acknowledgment page

by Shachar Shemesh

Brian Vincent wrote: >4) Who's Who does need an update, and I can think of quite a few >people who deserve to be on there. I'd encourage anyone who isn't on >there to speak up and add themselves (patch to wine-patches, or email >to me). The most likely for someone not being on there is simply an >oversight on my part. Names that immediately come to mind include Rob >Shearman, Robert Reif, and Filip Navara. There's probably a dozen >more. The guideline for a Who's Who entry is shameless >self-promotion. > > The problem with wine hackers is that they are too modest. They appreciate the publicity, but won't typically go looking for it. I think it would be best to call upon all wine hackers to think of names of people who deserve to be there and are not. >5) On our FAQ page we say this: > People and organizations who have given generous contributions of >money, equipment, or licenses, include: > David L. Harper > Bob Hepple > Mark A. Horton > Kevin P. Lawton > The Syntropy Institute > James Woulfe > > Here's a question for you - should money contribution's credit expire? If someone donated 100$ some five years ago, should we still list them? This is not about code contribution. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting ltd. http://www.lingnu.com/

Aug. 13, 2004

Re: Acknowledgment page

by Brian Vincent

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 14:25:26 -0400, Tom <twickline(a)sitestar.net> wrote: > Jeremy White wrote: > > Hmm. I have several thoughts on this. First, I think > > that corporate sponsors get enough 'props'. While I appreciate > > the gesture, I'd rather the acknowledgements page highlight > > the many people who do good work for Wine without > > pay or other recompense. > > Hello Jer, > > But that would just be a copy of the who's who? > http://www.winehq.org/site/who Random thoughts.. 1) Tom - you sent me a preview of an acknowledgement page a few months ago and I thought it was an excellent start. I have it laying around somewhere still. 2) Companies definitely need to be mentioned. Corporate sponsors _don't_ get enough props. 3) A quick glance at the AUTHORS file shows tons of names I don't recognize and some that I happen to recognize but I know their contributions were a line or two here and there. I think a decent guideline for an acknowledgement page is to scan wine-patches for the past 2 or 3 years and pick out anyone who submitted more than, say, 4 (or Insert-Favorite-Random-Number-Here) patches. I suspect it's smaller than you'd think. (cat the files together | grep From | uniq | sort -rn) From there, add in some folks who had contributions (Bertho Stultiens, et al). Finally put out a call for people to add themselves to care of any oversights. No, the end result won't be perfect but it's better than nothing. 4) Who's Who does need an update, and I can think of quite a few people who deserve to be on there. I'd encourage anyone who isn't on there to speak up and add themselves (patch to wine-patches, or email to me). The most likely for someone not being on there is simply an oversight on my part. Names that immediately come to mind include Rob Shearman, Robert Reif, and Filip Navara. There's probably a dozen more. The guideline for a Who's Who entry is shameless self-promotion. 5) On our FAQ page we say this: People and organizations who have given generous contributions of money, equipment, or licenses, include: David L. Harper Bob Hepple Mark A. Horton Kevin P. Lawton The Syntropy Institute James Woulfe Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know any of these people. Maybe we should add them to that page but it might help to have an explanation of why. -Brian

Aug. 13, 2004

Re: Development model/versioning stuff: Interesting essay on why decentralised versioning is a bad idea

by Lionel Ulmer

> What are peoples thoughts on this? It's not (despite appearances) an > argument against BitKeeper due to licensing concerns, but rather a short > paper on why the author believes the "pyramid" patch/development > system is a bad idea. Well, if you agree with the article, you are basically saying that Alexandre should let other people commit to the tree. Another way to read the article is to say that 'wow, BK is exactly that we need in Wine because it matches exactly the way we work' :-) Anyway, we already discussed this to death about one or two years ago. Lionel -- Lionel Ulmer - http://www.bbrox.org/

Aug. 12, 2004

Re: Acknowledgment page

by Tom

Jeremy White wrote: > Hmm. I have several thoughts on this. First, I think > that corporate sponsors get enough 'props'. While I appreciate > the gesture, I'd rather the acknowledgements page highlight > the many people who do good work for Wine without > pay or other recompense. Hello Jer, But that would just be a copy of the who's who? http://www.winehq.org/site/who I could link to it and say here is a list of current developers. and link to the Authors page and say here is a list of all developers. As I see it if a developer is currently active they should be listed in the who's who, and if they have given in the past but are no longer active there still listed in the Authors page. So this leaves corporate sponsors and people that have given to the wpf. Or, do you suggest we do a "all time who's who" and list everyone and if they want to put a blurb on the page of there past contributions they can? The only problem with this is, the page would list 600+ past and present contributors. And I would only guess that maybe 10% of this list would ever be completed. > > I'm not suggesting you remove credit for corporate sponsors > (Corel's contribution, in particular, I have long felt has > been under appreciated by the larger community), but I'd > think that all parties should be treated equally, and with > perhaps a shorter blurb about their contributions. Well I copied your section from your site :) As your the only company that has a page listing your past contributions. I'll trim it down some so your section doesn't take a full screen to fill. > > Now add $1.48 to that $0.02, and you can get a cup of coffee... Thanks! would you please pass the sugar? <g> Tom > > Cheers, > > Jer >

Aug. 12, 2004

Re: Win API Stats

by Hans Leidekker

On Thursday 12 August 2004 17:31, Francois Gouget wrote: > ./tools/winapi/winapi_extract --pseudo-stub-statistics --no-verbose --no-progress > loader/preloader.c: 226: syntax error: 'ElfW(auxv_t) *av' I have looked into this in the past and IIRC winapi does it's own C parsing, but has no preprocessor. That would explain why it can't parse the above construct. -Hans

Aug. 12, 2004

Re: Acknowledgment page

by Dimitrie O. Paun

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 08:56:24AM -0500, Jeremy White wrote: > Hmm. I have several thoughts on this. First, I think > that corporate sponsors get enough 'props'. While I appreciate > the gesture, I'd rather the acknowledgements page highlight > the many people who do good work for Wine without > pay or other recompense. I still find it informative to see what companies did, so I suggest we simply move them towards the bottom of the page, rather then remove the info altogether. -- Dimi.

Aug. 12, 2004

Re: ATL: DllRegsterServer

by Mike McCormack

Steven Edwards wrote: > Note: While this does allow my test app to install and run I dont think > this is correct because I dont have the ATL CLSID. > > Changelog: > Implement DllRegsterServer and DllUnregsterServer Windows 2000 has: ["CLSID\\{44EC053A-400F-11D0-9DCD-00A0C90391D3}"] @="Registrar Class" ["CLSID\\{44EC053A-400F-11D0-9DCD-00A0C90391D3}"\\InprocServer32] @="c:\winnt\system32\atl.dll" "ThreadingModel"="Both" Mike

Aug. 12, 2004

Re: Win API Stats

by Mike Hearn

> ./tools/winapi/winapi_extract --pseudo-stub-statistics --no-verbose --no-progress > loader/preloader.c: 226: syntax error: 'ElfW(auxv_t) *av' > > Unfortunately I have not had the courage to go dig in winapi_extract to > find out how to get it to cope with this construct. > (consider this a call for volunteers) Hmm, I'd just hack the preloader out of the winapi_extract script - messy but the preloader isn't relevant for calculating API stats anyway. And it's magic voodoo with strange constructs in several different ways, so I vote to jettison it with a "continue if filename eq 'preloader.c'" :)

Aug. 12, 2004