October 2007 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

Re: ReplaceFileW (was: Phoronix: Ubuntu 7.10 + WINE vs. Windows XP)

by Stephan Rose

On Sun, 2007-10-21 at 19:33 +0900, Dmitry Timoshkov wrote: > "Reece Dunn" <msclrhd(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > > On 20/10/2007, Dan Kegel <dank(a)kegel.com> wrote: > >> Reece Dunn wrote: > >> > The patch was rejected by Alexandre because the patch was > >> > implementing that command using Windows API calls, > >> > when it should be implemented natively as POSIX/GNU calls. > >> > >> Really? Where did he say that? It'd be nice to link to that from > >> http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7544 > >> - Dan > > > > I asked him about it at WineConf and that is a summary of what he said. > > I can't believe this, probably you misunderstood or misinterpreted something. > ReplaceFile API needs to abide sharing and access rights rules which are known > only to wineserver, and not known/available on the libc/kernel level. > Ok so what's the right way to implement this now? If I'm going to do this, and I most certainly wouldn't mind doing that, I'd like to be able to do it the right way the first time around. Thanks, Stephan

Oct. 21, 2007

Re: Photoshop Elements 5 Tryout? (Maintainer requests)

by Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes

On Sunday 21 October 2007 21:11:53 Vitaliy Margolen wrote: > Jan Zerebecki wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 12:12:27PM +0200, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes wrote: > >> On Saturday 20 October 2007 19:40:48 Tony Lambregts wrote: > >>> I know that maintainer requests have gone through and are working but > >>> apparently there has to be something wrong with this, since you are not > >>> the only one who has had problems. Vitamin also had a problem trying to > >>> become a maintainer. > >> > >> It appears most entries get flagged as duplicates and are deleted when > >> processed by an admin. > > > > No. Let me rephrase what vitamin already said: I accepted a > > request he made but the only effect was that it was removed from > > the queue. (Although I didn't check that, I suspect that neither > > a reject nor accept mail was generated.) > > I have not received any e-mails. > > Vitaliy. There wouldn't have been any; the maintainer entries would be silently deleted without any notification. Alexander N. Sørnes

Oct. 21, 2007

Re: icmp states I need to be running wine as root

by Juan Lang

> Why can't the ping request be forwarded to the linux ping executable that I have the ability to run rather than trying to open a new raw socket which I don't have permission to do? Patches always welcome. --Juan

Oct. 21, 2007

Re: Phoronix: Ubuntu 7.10 + WINE vs. Windows XP

by H. Verbeet

On 21/10/2007, Vitaliy Margolen <wine-devel(a)kievinfo.com> wrote: > GLSL maybe, but not FBO. It causes major slowdown in most source games. And > I'm talking about drop to 0.1 FPS. If that can be fixed then I don't see > major reasons why FBO can't be the default. If anything it does fix a lot of > lighting and geometry related problems in number of other games. > Is that a regression? At least for HL2 & CSS it never did that for me. (And at least a while ago CSS stress test actually was faster with FBOs)

Oct. 21, 2007

RE: icmp states I need to be running wine as root

by EA Durbin

----------------------------------------> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:26:58 -0700> From: juan.lang(a)gmail.com> To: ead1234(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: icmp states I need to be running wine as root> CC: wine-devel(a)winehq.org>>> I can ping in linux without being a superuser? Isn't there another way to do this than with SOCK_RAW, or having to run wine as root?>> I think you mean the first sentence as a statement, not a question.> And yes you can, sort of: the ping executable is suid root. It runs> as root, regardless of whether you are. Why can't the ping request be forwarded to the linux ping executable that I have the ability to run rather than trying to open a new raw socket which I don't have permission to do? _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL1006269…

Oct. 21, 2007

RE: icmp states I need to be running wine as root

by Uwe Bonnes

>>>>> "EA" == EA Durbin <ead1234(a)hotmail.com> writes: ... EA> I can ping in linux without being a superuser? Isn't there another EA> way to do this than with SOCK_RAW, or having to run wine as root? > ls -l /bin/ping -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 39496 25. Nov 2006 /bin/ping ping is suid root. Can we perhaps translate a lot of icmp.dll calls via ping? -- Uwe Bonnes bon(a)elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt --------- Tel. 06151 162516 -------- Fax. 06151 164321 ----------

Oct. 21, 2007

Re: icmp states I need to be running wine as root

by Juan Lang

> I can ping in linux without being a superuser? Isn't there another way to do this than with SOCK_RAW, or having to run wine as root? I think you mean the first sentence as a statement, not a question. And yes you can, sort of: the ping executable is suid root. It runs as root, regardless of whether you are. In answer to your second question: yes, modify the Linux kernel not to have such restrictions. --Juan

Oct. 21, 2007

RE: icmp states I need to be running wine as root

by EA Durbin

----------------------------------------> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:05:15 -0700> From: juan.lang(a)gmail.com> To: ead1234(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: icmp states I need to be running wine as root> CC: wine-devel(a)winehq.org>>>> I thought wine was not to be run as root, is this not correct?>> It's not the ICMP you need to look at but "SOCK_RAW". This is not supported>> for regular users, only superuser.>> So to be clear: we strongly recommend against running Wine as root.> But you sometimes need to run Wine as root in order to do certain> things on Linux, e.g. open raw sockets. The solution: don't run> applications that want to do those things, or take it up with the> Linux kernel developers.>> --Juan I can ping in linux without being a superuser? Isn't there another way to do this than with SOCK_RAW, or having to run wine as root? _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us

Oct. 21, 2007

Re: icmp states I need to be running wine as root

by Juan Lang

> > I thought wine was not to be run as root, is this not correct? > It's not the ICMP you need to look at but "SOCK_RAW". This is not supported > for regular users, only superuser. So to be clear: we strongly recommend against running Wine as root. But you sometimes need to run Wine as root in order to do certain things on Linux, e.g. open raw sockets. The solution: don't run applications that want to do those things, or take it up with the Linux kernel developers. --Juan

Oct. 21, 2007

Re: icmp states I need to be running wine as root

by Vitaliy Margolen

EA Durbin wrote: > I tried to update the Ocean application as outlined in bug 8332 and got a > message from the console stating I needed to be running as root for ICMP to > work. I thought wine was not to be run as root, is this not correct? > > int sid=socket(AF_INET,SOCK_RAW,IPPROTO_ICMP); > if (sid < 0) { > MESSAGE("WARNING: Trying to use ICMP (network ping) will fail unless running as root\n"); > SetLastError(ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED); > return INVALID_HANDLE_VALUE; > } It's not the ICMP you need to look at but "SOCK_RAW". This is not supported for regular users, only superuser. Vitaliy.

Oct. 21, 2007