October 2007 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

Re: Phoronix: Ubuntu 7.10 + WINE vs. Windows XP

by Stephan Rose

On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 09:21 +0000, L. Rahyen wrote: > On Saturday October 20 2007 08:40, Scott Ritchie wrote: > > speedator wrote: > > > Hello everybody, > > > new benchmark-test at phoronix.com: > > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=882&num=1 > > > > Wait, they tested 3D Mark 2001 and 3D Mark 2003... > > > > Weren't those the exact same benchmarks NVidia was found to be cheating > > with by including hacks into their drivers on Windows? No wonder they > > found Windows to be faster in the graphics tests! > > > > Can anyone find a real (ie, not rigged on Windows) benchmark to use? > > > > Thanks, > > Scott Ritchie > > I think that best real benchmarks is real-world applications. For example > Unreal Tournament can show performance difference between OpenGL and DirectX > in Linux and this can be compared with results on Windows. Of course there is > a lot of other good games which can be used as benchmarks. > It would be great if someone who have both Linux and Windows on same computer > will run few games (preferably both old and new ones in order to test > performance of DirectX 7, 8 and 9) at same conditions so we can see what is > the real difference in FPS between Linux (WINE) and Windows. > Unfortunately personally I havn't Windows installed (only in VMWare for > running Autodesk applications) because dual-boot is unacceptable option for > me and actually I havn't need in Windows at all, it just isn't technically > suitable for my daily tasks. > But I think there is some people with dual boot configuration and modern PC > who has some games to test and enough free time to compare the results > between Windows and Linux. I can go ahead and try to install Supreme Commander and see if I can get it updated to the latest version. The auto-updater uses the .Net Framework so that makes it a little difficult. But, it has a performance test / benchmark mode I could run to do some comparisons. Stephan

Oct. 20, 2007

Re: Phoronix: Ubuntu 7.10 + WINE vs. Windows XP

by L. Rahyen

On Saturday October 20 2007 08:40, Scott Ritchie wrote: > speedator wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > new benchmark-test at phoronix.com: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=882&num=1 > > Wait, they tested 3D Mark 2001 and 3D Mark 2003... > > Weren't those the exact same benchmarks NVidia was found to be cheating > with by including hacks into their drivers on Windows? No wonder they > found Windows to be faster in the graphics tests! > > Can anyone find a real (ie, not rigged on Windows) benchmark to use? > > Thanks, > Scott Ritchie I think that best real benchmarks is real-world applications. For example Unreal Tournament can show performance difference between OpenGL and DirectX in Linux and this can be compared with results on Windows. Of course there is a lot of other good games which can be used as benchmarks. It would be great if someone who have both Linux and Windows on same computer will run few games (preferably both old and new ones in order to test performance of DirectX 7, 8 and 9) at same conditions so we can see what is the real difference in FPS between Linux (WINE) and Windows. Unfortunately personally I havn't Windows installed (only in VMWare for running Autodesk applications) because dual-boot is unacceptable option for me and actually I havn't need in Windows at all, it just isn't technically suitable for my daily tasks. But I think there is some people with dual boot configuration and modern PC who has some games to test and enough free time to compare the results between Windows and Linux.

Oct. 20, 2007

Re: [PATCH 3/3] configure: Use 0 instead of NULL because NULL isn't defined.

by Alexandre Julliard

Michael Stefaniuc <mstefani(a)redhat.com> writes: > Actually it's not a cast. It's a heuristic that the compiler has to make > to detect a NULL pointer. The best heuristic for this is (char *) 0. There's no heuristic involved here, the assignment is clearly to a pointer, and 0 is a perfectly valid null pointer, no cast is needed. -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.org

Oct. 20, 2007

Re: Phoronix: Ubuntu 7.10 + WINE vs. Windows XP

by Scott Ritchie

speedator wrote: > Hello everybody, > new benchmark-test at phoronix.com: > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=882&num=1 > > Wait, they tested 3D Mark 2001 and 3D Mark 2003... Weren't those the exact same benchmarks NVidia was found to be cheating with by including hacks into their drivers on Windows? No wonder they found Windows to be faster in the graphics tests! Can anyone find a real (ie, not rigged on Windows) benchmark to use? Thanks, Scott Ritchie

Oct. 20, 2007

Re: [PATCH 3/3] configure: Use 0 instead of NULL because NULL isn't defined.

by Michael Stefaniuc

Ken Thomases wrote: > On Oct 19, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Stefan Dösinger wrote: > >> Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 23:18:51 schrieb Ken Thomases: >>> This makes the test test the proper thing on Mac OS X. It still >>> fails, but >>> for a good reason. >>> --- >>> configure.ac | 6 +++--- >>> 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) >>> - char *name=NULL; >>> + char *name=0; >> Shouldn't that be (void *) 0 or (char *) 0? >> > > I don't think that's necessary. It compiled without warning here, > even with -Wall. Doesn't the C standard says that 0 casts to a Actually it's not a cast. It's a heuristic that the compiler has to make to detect a NULL pointer. The best heuristic for this is (char *) 0. This is a limitation of the C language to not have NULL as integral part of the language. > pointer naturally? Maybe that's C++. bye michael -- Michael Stefaniuc Tel.: +49-711-96437-199 Sr. Network Engineer Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Reg. Adresse: Red Hat GmbH, Hauptstätter Strasse 58, 70178 Stuttgart Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Stuttgart HRB 153243 Geschäftsführer: Brendan Lane, Charlie Peters, Michael Cunningham, Werner Knoblich

Oct. 19, 2007

Phoronix: Ubuntu 7.10 + WINE vs. Windows XP

by speedator

Hello everybody, new benchmark-test at phoronix.com: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=882&num=1

Oct. 19, 2007

Re: [PATCH 3/3] configure: Use 0 instead of NULL because NULL isn't defined.

by Ken Thomases

On Oct 19, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Stefan Dösinger wrote: > Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 23:18:51 schrieb Ken Thomases: >> This makes the test test the proper thing on Mac OS X. It still >> fails, but >> for a good reason. >> --- >> configure.ac | 6 +++--- >> 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) > >> - char *name=NULL; >> + char *name=0; > Shouldn't that be (void *) 0 or (char *) 0? > I don't think that's necessary. It compiled without warning here, even with -Wall. Doesn't the C standard says that 0 casts to a pointer naturally? Maybe that's C++. -Ken

Oct. 19, 2007

Re: [PATCH 3/3] configure: Use 0 instead of NULL because NULL isn't defined.

by Stefan Dösinger

Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 23:18:51 schrieb Ken Thomases: > This makes the test test the proper thing on Mac OS X. It still fails, but > for a good reason. > --- > configure.ac | 6 +++--- > 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) > - char *name=NULL; > + char *name=0; Shouldn't that be (void *) 0 or (char *) 0?

Oct. 19, 2007

Re: Photoshop Elements 5 Tryout?

by Scott Ritchie

Dan Kegel wrote: > On 10/19/07, Alexander Nicolaysen Sørnes <alex(a)thehandofagony.com> wrote: >>>> Any reason why you're not using the AppDB? This is exactly what it is >>>> for, >>> Finally, I've been asking for appdb maintainer status for photoshop >>> for months now, and haven't gotten it. >> Press the 'become a maintainer' button on the version/app page. > > I've done that twice in two months, no joy. > - Dan > > Is anyone processing these applications? I've made a few and haven't heard any updates for months either. Thanks, Scott Ritchie

Oct. 19, 2007

Re: winmm test runs forever?

by Dan Kegel

On 10/18/07, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dan Kegel schreef: > > Today I'm starting to see winmm_test spew an infinite series > > of failures on line 467 of mixer.c: > > > > I have to do wineserver -k to make progress. > > > That looks really worrying, I've never seen the alsa mixer tests fail > that spectacularly before. Can you create a bug report for it? A > +tid,+mixer,+winmm should hopefully shed a light on it, wine-devel just > isn't the place to do it. Found the problem: an uninitialized variable. I'm submitting a patch that adds the line + memset(&capsA, 0, sizeof(capsA)); and makes the test behave reliably on my test box. - Dan

Oct. 19, 2007