October 2007 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

winex11.drv: Window must always recieve system messages.

by darkside83＠yandex.ru

Good day time. I had problems with window redrawing. This patch helps me. Please see the bug 9579.

Oct. 5, 2007

Re: Maximum window size, help needed

by Anatoly Lyutin

Kirill K. Smirnov wrote: > Hi, > > I want to improve wineconsole a little, max hor and vert console window > dimensions. To achieve this, I need to know maximum available size of window > on the desktop. > The simpliest way I found is to use GetMonitorInfo, but it does not take > into account desktop panels. As the result, maximized window fills entire > desktop, overlapping with KDE panel. > I think that will help you GetSystemMetrics() with SM_CXFULLSCREEN and SM_CYFULLSCREEN but I did not verify it. Sorry if I shall be not right. > So the question: is there such function, smth like > GetMaxWindowSizeWithoutDesktopPanels, which clips panels? > > Thanks in advance > > -- > Kirill > > P.S. Application which uses this - Far Manager > > > -- Best regards Anatoly Lyutin.

Oct. 5, 2007

Maximum window size, help needed

by Kirill K. Smirnov

Hi, I want to improve wineconsole a little, max hor and vert console window dimensions. To achieve this, I need to know maximum available size of window on the desktop. The simpliest way I found is to use GetMonitorInfo, but it does not take into account desktop panels. As the result, maximized window fills entire desktop, overlapping with KDE panel. So the question: is there such function, smth like GetMaxWindowSizeWithoutDesktopPanels, which clips panels? Thanks in advance -- Kirill P.S. Application which uses this - Far Manager

Oct. 5, 2007

Re: .NET going open source(sort of)

by Stephan Rose

On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 13:38 -0500, James Hawkins wrote: > On 10/4/07, Brian Vincent <brian.vincent(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 10/4/07, Stephan Rose <kermos(a)somrek.net> wrote: > > > But just because code, that implements the same functionality looks > > > similar?? Well of COURSE it looks similar...it is trying to do the same > > > thing! > > > > > > I mean seriously, how does any of this stuff have legal ground? Is the > > > US system seriously that screwed up? > > > > I shouldn't bother responding.. however.. > > > > Let's say you're a huge pharmaceutical company and you manage to > > develop an AIDS vaccine. At the end of the day you've probably spent > > billions and billions of dollars and all you really end up with is a > > chemical formula. That chemical formula then takes several more > > billions of dollars in order to be tested and certified for use. > > Should some other company be allowed to just come along and copy that > > chemical formula after the other company has invested so much time and > > energy? Most people generally agree that wouldn't be fair. > > > > Now, regarding software design, I think there needs to be strict > > limits on what qualifies as software patents, etc. I would think if > > Google wanted to show everyone their code it would unfair if someone > > came along and started their own search engine based on it. > > Fortunately I'm too dumb to have a solution so I don't have to worry > > about such things. > > > > In defense of Stephan, I'm pretty sure he was referring to the case > where two companies independently arrive at the same solution to a > problem. In the case of pharmaceutical companies, that means both > companies each invested billions of dollars in strikingly similar or > exact vaccines. Concerning MS and, say, Mono, the implementation of > the .NET interface may be strikingly similar, enough to cause patent > concerns, yet they hopefully arrived at the implementations > independently. The biggest difference is timing. Who patented first, > etc? I believe this is the problem with the US patent system referred > to by Stephan. Yup that's pretty much what I meant. Stephan

Oct. 5, 2007

Re: No joy with XComposite extension on Gutsy on Thinkbook X60

by Dan Kegel

On 10/4/07, Dan Kegel <dank(a)kegel.com> wrote: > I'm running updated Gutsy beta on a Thinkbook X60, and... > Google Earth, it aborts with > DRM_I830_CMDBUFFER: -22 > According to > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=394311 > this is "libgl1-mesa-dri: i965_dri.so miscompiled with current gcc". > A patch was attached there: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=30;bug=394311 > The bug's been reported to Ubuntu: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/66645 Chris wrote: > This seems to happen on ATi cards/drivers But my laptop has Intel graphics, not ATI: 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) and the driver is open source. I guess I'll just have to figure out how to build it myself to verify the fix ... :-(

Oct. 4, 2007

Re: No joy with XComposite extension on Gutsy on Thinkbook X60

by Chris Robinson

On Thursday 04 October 2007 02:22:57 pm Dan Kegel wrote: > Sorry, here's a little brain dump before I go to bed. > > I'm running updated Gutsy beta on a Thinkbook X60, and > am testing out wine from git on Google Earth. > Initially it aborted on startup with > X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range > for operation) > Major opcode of failed request: 145 (XFree86-DRI) This seems to happen on ATi cards/drivers. glXCreateGLXPixmap silently fails in quite a spectacular way (it returns an XID, prints a libGL error, and doesn't cause any X error; leaving you with a seemingly valid but unuseable XID). Wine ignores BadDrawable errors on the gdi_display, so a problem doesn't pop up 'til later when trying to set a context. Forcing indirect contexts in Wine seems to relieve the crash, but still leaves you with an unusable GL display. Can only hope the next fglrx driver release fixes that, since they'll likely be advertising AIGLX capabilities. But given the track record of the drivers, not even this recent rewrite has been very helpful to their stability. > The log also showed it couldn't find the XComposite extension, > and sure enough, config.log showed configure hadn't found it. > I think I fixed this with > sudo apt-get install libxcomposite-dev > and reconfiguring and rebuilding Wine. But now when I start > Google Earth, it aborts with > DRM_I830_CMDBUFFER: -22 > According to > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=394311 > this is "libgl1-mesa-dri: i965_dri.so miscompiled with current gcc". > A patch was attached there: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=30;bug=394311 > The bug's been reported to Ubuntu: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/66645 Thunderbird has more experience using ATi cards (I only have nVidia which doesn't use MESA's DRI), so he can hopefully provide more insight. But this looks more like an Ubuntu/Debian packaging problem. No idea how to help there :/

Oct. 4, 2007

No joy with XComposite extension on Gutsy on Thinkbook X60

by Dan Kegel

Sorry, here's a little brain dump before I go to bed. I'm running updated Gutsy beta on a Thinkbook X60, and am testing out wine from git on Google Earth. Initially it aborted on startup with X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 145 (XFree86-DRI) The log also showed it couldn't find the XComposite extension, and sure enough, config.log showed configure hadn't found it. I think I fixed this with sudo apt-get install libxcomposite-dev and reconfiguring and rebuilding Wine. But now when I start Google Earth, it aborts with DRM_I830_CMDBUFFER: -22 According to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=394311 this is "libgl1-mesa-dri: i965_dri.so miscompiled with current gcc". A patch was attached there: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=30;bug=394311 The bug's been reported to Ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/66645 Any clues? - Dan

Oct. 4, 2007

Re: D3DX

by Stefan Dösinger

Am Donnerstag, 4. Oktober 2007 18:57:20 schrieb Luis C. Busquets Pérez: > Dear all and in particular Alexander and Louis, > Share a large number of functions. Actually, 142 of the 153 the > functions you have added to d3dx8.spec are repeated in all those dlls. > I think that a merge development should be done. That is to develop just > one dlls/d3dx/d3dx.spec together with the different dlls/d3dx/xx.c files > implementing those functions with the 349 functions that are used in all > those d3d extensions. Then, the spec files of each specific file > referring to d3dx. > Are you opposed to such alternative? It sounds like a sane plan, but we have to take care about version differences. But I'd expect most of the functionality to be the same, and tiny differences can be fixed in the version-specific dll(d3dx8 vs d3dx9). This would be simmilar to WineD3D, ddraw, d3d8 and d3d9.

Oct. 4, 2007

Re: .NET going open source(sort of)

by James Hawkins

On 10/4/07, Brian Vincent <brian.vincent(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 10/4/07, Stephan Rose <kermos(a)somrek.net> wrote: > > But just because code, that implements the same functionality looks > > similar?? Well of COURSE it looks similar...it is trying to do the same > > thing! > > > > I mean seriously, how does any of this stuff have legal ground? Is the > > US system seriously that screwed up? > > I shouldn't bother responding.. however.. > > Let's say you're a huge pharmaceutical company and you manage to > develop an AIDS vaccine. At the end of the day you've probably spent > billions and billions of dollars and all you really end up with is a > chemical formula. That chemical formula then takes several more > billions of dollars in order to be tested and certified for use. > Should some other company be allowed to just come along and copy that > chemical formula after the other company has invested so much time and > energy? Most people generally agree that wouldn't be fair. > > Now, regarding software design, I think there needs to be strict > limits on what qualifies as software patents, etc. I would think if > Google wanted to show everyone their code it would unfair if someone > came along and started their own search engine based on it. > Fortunately I'm too dumb to have a solution so I don't have to worry > about such things. > In defense of Stephan, I'm pretty sure he was referring to the case where two companies independently arrive at the same solution to a problem. In the case of pharmaceutical companies, that means both companies each invested billions of dollars in strikingly similar or exact vaccines. Concerning MS and, say, Mono, the implementation of the .NET interface may be strikingly similar, enough to cause patent concerns, yet they hopefully arrived at the implementations independently. The biggest difference is timing. Who patented first, etc? I believe this is the problem with the US patent system referred to by Stephan. -- James Hawkins

Oct. 4, 2007

Re: .NET going open source(sort of)

by Brian Vincent

On 10/4/07, Stephan Rose <kermos(a)somrek.net> wrote: > But just because code, that implements the same functionality looks > similar?? Well of COURSE it looks similar...it is trying to do the same > thing! > > I mean seriously, how does any of this stuff have legal ground? Is the > US system seriously that screwed up? I shouldn't bother responding.. however.. Let's say you're a huge pharmaceutical company and you manage to develop an AIDS vaccine. At the end of the day you've probably spent billions and billions of dollars and all you really end up with is a chemical formula. That chemical formula then takes several more billions of dollars in order to be tested and certified for use. Should some other company be allowed to just come along and copy that chemical formula after the other company has invested so much time and energy? Most people generally agree that wouldn't be fair. Now, regarding software design, I think there needs to be strict limits on what qualifies as software patents, etc. I would think if Google wanted to show everyone their code it would unfair if someone came along and started their own search engine based on it. Fortunately I'm too dumb to have a solution so I don't have to worry about such things. -Brian

Oct. 4, 2007