February 2008 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

Winnowing the 1.0 bug list

by Dan Kegel

We now have about 100 bugs nominated for fixing in 1.0. Thanks to everybody who nominated bugs. Now it's time to winnow the list a bit. 1.0 bugs should be 'important' somehow, easy to reproduce, and have some chance of actually being fixed by, say, summer. The better understood a bug is, the more likely it is it can be fixed for 1.0, so even less important bugs can be 1.0 bugs if they're well enough understood and a patch is available. Here are a few bugs I'm thinking of deferring, and why: Not important enough http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5807 Mercora IMRadio crashes http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6048 Stokes crashes http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8687 everestpoker and Programmer's Editor don't work http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9288 Armed Assault doesn't load web page http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9895 Alzip crashes Probably not doable by summer http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609 Add BiDi support Not well enough understood: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6383 Dual-core not being correctly supported Do people agree with those assessments, and are there other bugs nominated for 1.0 that don't quite deserve it? - Dan

Feb. 18, 2008

Re: iTunes

by James Hawkins

On Feb 17, 2008 11:39 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi James, > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>: > > On Feb 17, 2008 11:16 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi James, > > > > > > > > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>: > > > > On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Christopher, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Christopher Harvey wrote: > > > > > > > > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and > > > > > > > find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' > > > > > > > registry stuff properly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 > > > > > > > actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and > > > > > > > silently fails if they don't exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is > > > > > > > probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from > > > > > > > installing without first manually creating those registry keys. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, > > > > > > we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring > > > > > > to? > > > > > Keys like: > > > > > In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: > > > > > ImagePath="C:\...." > > > > > Start=0x00000002 > > > > > Description="....." > > > > > > > > > > Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the > > > > > 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash > > > > > right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. > > > > > Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start > > > > > the service. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm according to the logs, the service is installed just fine. You'd > > > > get an err otherwise. The dependencies aren't listed, but since we > > > > don't have the tcpip service anyway, it won't make a difference > > > > (though that might be why it crashes when you get the service to > > > > start.) > > > There is a big difference. Without it it will abort installation > > > because the bonjour service fails to start. With it it will start but > > > immediately crash, however that happens after start so installation > > > happily continues. The effect is that installer will continue. I don't > > > see how it can be fine if it fails to create the appropiate registry > > > keys. > > > > > > > I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying that the call to CreateService > > doesn't fail, or you'd get an err, like I said before. > > > > service = CreateServiceW(hscm, name, disp, GENERIC_ALL, serv_type, > > start_type, err_control, file->TargetPath, > > load_order, NULL, NULL, serv_name, pass); > > if (!service) > > { > > if (GetLastError() != ERROR_SERVICE_EXISTS) > > ERR("Failed to create service %s: %d\n", debugstr_w(name), > > GetLastError()); > > } > > > > I'm not saying there's not a bug in CreateServiceW, but as it stands, > > we don't get a failure. > You can try for yourself at the following link: > http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/windows/bonjourforwindows.html > > Or try iTunes v7.6 directly. > > It could also be that it never calls CreateService for some reason, > I'm not 100% sure. > I already have tried it; that's how I know the call doesn't fail. Yes it does call CreateService. All the error paths in ITERATE_InstallService have ERRs, so you'd see it if it did fail. -- James Hawkins

Feb. 18, 2008

Re: iTunes

by Maarten Lankhorst

Hi James, 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>: > On Feb 17, 2008 11:16 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi James, > > > > > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>: > > > On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Christopher, > > > > > > > > > > > > Christopher Harvey wrote: > > > > > > > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? > > > > > > > > > > > > v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and > > > > > > find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' > > > > > > registry stuff properly. > > > > > > > > > > > > I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 > > > > > > actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and > > > > > > silently fails if they don't exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is > > > > > > probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from > > > > > > installing without first manually creating those registry keys. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, > > > > > we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring > > > > > to? > > > > Keys like: > > > > In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: > > > > ImagePath="C:\...." > > > > Start=0x00000002 > > > > Description="....." > > > > > > > > Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the > > > > 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash > > > > right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. > > > > Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start > > > > the service. :-) > > > > > > > > > > hmm according to the logs, the service is installed just fine. You'd > > > get an err otherwise. The dependencies aren't listed, but since we > > > don't have the tcpip service anyway, it won't make a difference > > > (though that might be why it crashes when you get the service to > > > start.) > > There is a big difference. Without it it will abort installation > > because the bonjour service fails to start. With it it will start but > > immediately crash, however that happens after start so installation > > happily continues. The effect is that installer will continue. I don't > > see how it can be fine if it fails to create the appropiate registry > > keys. > > > > I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying that the call to CreateService > doesn't fail, or you'd get an err, like I said before. > > service = CreateServiceW(hscm, name, disp, GENERIC_ALL, serv_type, > start_type, err_control, file->TargetPath, > load_order, NULL, NULL, serv_name, pass); > if (!service) > { > if (GetLastError() != ERROR_SERVICE_EXISTS) > ERR("Failed to create service %s: %d\n", debugstr_w(name), > GetLastError()); > } > > I'm not saying there's not a bug in CreateServiceW, but as it stands, > we don't get a failure. You can try for yourself at the following link: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/windows/bonjourforwindows.html Or try iTunes v7.6 directly. It could also be that it never calls CreateService for some reason, I'm not 100% sure. Cheers, Maarten.

Feb. 18, 2008

Re: iTunes

by Edward Savage

Maarten why not focus on supporting applications that don't have viable open source solutions first? I can think of hundreds. The only thing iTunes will add, with full support, is ipod syncing (that isn't useless). Or should we avoid that debate? On Feb 18, 2008 3:18 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Edward, > > 2008/2/17, Edward Savage <epssyis(a)gmail.com>: > > Why are we interested in iTunes? There seem to be plenty of alternatives > > available. > > > > Or are we talking about ipod compatibility specifically, as there are no > > viable alternatives to iTunes for syncing. > Because this is a project that runs windows apps in linux, instead of > writing alternatives for it? ;-) > > Cheers, > Maarten. >

Feb. 18, 2008

Re: iTunes

by James Hawkins

On Feb 17, 2008 11:16 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi James, > > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>: > > On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>: > > > > > > > On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi Christopher, > > > > > > > > > > Christopher Harvey wrote: > > > > > > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? > > > > > > > > > > v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and > > > > > find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' > > > > > registry stuff properly. > > > > > > > > > > I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 > > > > > actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and > > > > > silently fails if they don't exist. > > > > > > > > > > I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is > > > > > probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from > > > > > installing without first manually creating those registry keys. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, > > > > we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring > > > > to? > > > Keys like: > > > In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: > > > ImagePath="C:\...." > > > Start=0x00000002 > > > Description="....." > > > > > > Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the > > > 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash > > > right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. > > > Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start > > > the service. :-) > > > > > > > hmm according to the logs, the service is installed just fine. You'd > > get an err otherwise. The dependencies aren't listed, but since we > > don't have the tcpip service anyway, it won't make a difference > > (though that might be why it crashes when you get the service to > > start.) > There is a big difference. Without it it will abort installation > because the bonjour service fails to start. With it it will start but > immediately crash, however that happens after start so installation > happily continues. The effect is that installer will continue. I don't > see how it can be fine if it fails to create the appropiate registry > keys. > I'm not saying it's not. I'm saying that the call to CreateService doesn't fail, or you'd get an err, like I said before. service = CreateServiceW(hscm, name, disp, GENERIC_ALL, serv_type, start_type, err_control, file->TargetPath, load_order, NULL, NULL, serv_name, pass); if (!service) { if (GetLastError() != ERROR_SERVICE_EXISTS) ERR("Failed to create service %s: %d\n", debugstr_w(name), GetLastError()); } I'm not saying there's not a bug in CreateServiceW, but as it stands, we don't get a failure. -- James Hawkins

Feb. 18, 2008

Re: iTunes

by Maarten Lankhorst

Hi Edward, 2008/2/17, Edward Savage <epssyis(a)gmail.com>: > Why are we interested in iTunes? There seem to be plenty of alternatives > available. > > Or are we talking about ipod compatibility specifically, as there are no > viable alternatives to iTunes for syncing. Because this is a project that runs windows apps in linux, instead of writing alternatives for it? ;-) Cheers, Maarten.

Feb. 18, 2008

Re: iTunes

by Edward Savage

Why are we interested in iTunes? There seem to be plenty of alternatives available. Or are we talking about ipod compatibility specifically, as there are no viable alternatives to iTunes for syncing. Edward On Feb 18, 2008 3:11 PM, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>: > > > > > On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi Christopher, > > > > > > > > Christopher Harvey wrote: > > > > > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? > > > > > > > > v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, > and > > > > find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' > > > > registry stuff properly. > > > > > > > > I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 > > > > actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and > > > > silently fails if they don't exist. > > > > > > > > I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it > is > > > > probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from > > > > installing without first manually creating those registry keys. > > > > > > > > > > The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, > > > we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring > > > to? > > Keys like: > > In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: > > ImagePath="C:\...." > > Start=0x00000002 > > Description="....." > > > > Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the > > 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash > > right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. > > Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start > > the service. :-) > > > > hmm according to the logs, the service is installed just fine. You'd > get an err otherwise. The dependencies aren't listed, but since we > don't have the tcpip service anyway, it won't make a difference > (though that might be why it crashes when you get the service to > start.) > > -- > James Hawkins > > >

Feb. 18, 2008

Re: iTunes

by Maarten Lankhorst

Hi James, 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>: > On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>: > > > > > On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Christopher, > > > > > > > > Christopher Harvey wrote: > > > > > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? > > > > > > > > v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and > > > > find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' > > > > registry stuff properly. > > > > > > > > I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 > > > > actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and > > > > silently fails if they don't exist. > > > > > > > > I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is > > > > probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from > > > > installing without first manually creating those registry keys. > > > > > > > > > > The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, > > > we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring > > > to? > > Keys like: > > In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: > > ImagePath="C:\...." > > Start=0x00000002 > > Description="....." > > > > Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the > > 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash > > right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. > > Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start > > the service. :-) > > > > hmm according to the logs, the service is installed just fine. You'd > get an err otherwise. The dependencies aren't listed, but since we > don't have the tcpip service anyway, it won't make a difference > (though that might be why it crashes when you get the service to > start.) There is a big difference. Without it it will abort installation because the bonjour service fails to start. With it it will start but immediately crash, however that happens after start so installation happily continues. The effect is that installer will continue. I don't see how it can be fine if it fails to create the appropiate registry keys. Cheers, Maarten.

Feb. 18, 2008

Re: iTunes

by James Hawkins

On Feb 17, 2008 11:07 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>: > > > On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Christopher, > > > > > > Christopher Harvey wrote: > > > > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? > > > > > > v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and > > > find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' > > > registry stuff properly. > > > > > > I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 > > > actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and > > > silently fails if they don't exist. > > > > > > I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is > > > probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from > > > installing without first manually creating those registry keys. > > > > > > > The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, > > we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring > > to? > Keys like: > In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: > ImagePath="C:\...." > Start=0x00000002 > Description="....." > > Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the > 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash > right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. > Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start > the service. :-) > hmm according to the logs, the service is installed just fine. You'd get an err otherwise. The dependencies aren't listed, but since we don't have the tcpip service anyway, it won't make a difference (though that might be why it crashes when you get the service to start.) -- James Hawkins

Feb. 18, 2008

Re: iTunes

by Maarten Lankhorst

2008/2/17, James Hawkins <truiken(a)gmail.com>: > On Feb 17, 2008 9:42 PM, Maarten Lankhorst <m.b.lankhorst(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Christopher, > > > > Christopher Harvey wrote: > > > What needs to get done for iTunes to work? > > > > v7.6 basically works if you set windows version to windows vista, and > > find out why the installer fails to create the 'Bonjour service' > > registry stuff properly. > > > > I submitted 8 or so stub dll's to wine-patches that make iTunes v7.6 > > actually start after installation. It checks for the dll's and > > silently fails if they don't exist. > > > > I haven't done any further testing yet though, but it looks like it is > > probably a small installer bug that prevents itunes v7.6 from > > installing without first manually creating those registry keys. > > > > The Bonjour service depends on the tcpip service. As far as I know, > we don't provide that service. What registry keys are you referring > to? Keys like: In HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Bonjour Service: ImagePath="C:\...." Start=0x00000002 Description="....." Those are not created during install. If I manually add them the 'bonjour service' will report success on start, but actually crash right after. However it is enough to satisfy the itunes installer. Without those it will report failure without even attempting to start the service. :-) Cheers, Maarten.

Feb. 18, 2008