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Re: Cuda Applications on Wine - suggesting to merge wine-staging/patches/nvcuda-CUDA_Support patches into upstream wine.

by Stefan Dösinger

> Am 16.11.2022 um 17:40 schrieb Sveinar Søpler <cybermax(a)dexter.no>: > > I tend to agree that since CUDA needs the linux version of libcuda that only come with the nvidia driver, i am a bit unsure if it would be a "default wine" thing. A regular windows user do not install (nv)CUDA.dll libraries unless they use an NVIDIA adapter afaik. > > I have been working on improving CUDA support for wine here: https://github.com/SveSop/nvcuda/tree/devel , but i am unable to crack compatibility with CUDA SDK 11.6 and newer i am afraid. Afaiu a challenge with this is interop with graphics APIs. I am writing this from half-knowledge here, but I think CUDA has ways to transfer data to and from OpenGL, d3d and Vulkan. Getting those to work will need deep rooted hooks in winex11.drv and wined3d, for a vendor specific library. One important thing is that a Wine built on a machine with Cuda headers and libs needs to run on a machine without Cuda installed (minus Cuda functions, obviously).

Nov. 16, 2022

Re: Cuda Applications on Wine - suggesting to merge wine-staging/patches/nvcuda-CUDA_Support patches into upstream wine.

by Sveinar Søpler

I tend to agree that since CUDA needs the linux version of libcuda that only come with the nvidia driver, i am a bit unsure if it would be a "default wine" thing. A regular windows user do not install (nv)CUDA.dll libraries unless they use an NVIDIA adapter afaik. I have been working on improving CUDA support for wine here: https://github.com/SveSop/nvcuda/tree/devel , but i am unable to crack compatibility with CUDA SDK 11.6 and newer i am afraid. Sveinar On 16.11.2022 08:38, Alois Schlögl wrote: > > > Am 11/16/22 um 02:21 schrieb Alex Henrie: >> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 9:13 AM Alois Schlögl >> <alois.schloegl(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> I'd like suggesting to merge the 17 patches from >>> wine-staging/patches/nvcuda-CUDA_Support patches into upstream wine >> In my opinion, CUDA for Wine would make the most sense as some kind of >> downloadable add-on (maybe something akin to Wine Mono). But I never >> use CUDA, so it would be up to someone else to make that happen. >> >> -Alex > > [1] seems to suggest that this is not possible because cuda is a > "low-level library", and because of that > "...You cant install some windows driver in wine and expect this to > work. ...". > > Therefore, adding the nvcuda patches in upstream wine seems to be the > proper approach. > > - Alois > > > [1] https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52528#c4 > >

Nov. 16, 2022

Re: Cuda Applications on Wine - suggesting to merge wine-staging/patches/nvcuda-CUDA_Support patches into upstream wine.

by Aaryaman Vasishta

For the runtime dependency, could we also support HIP ? We have a large audience of steam deck users who might want to tinker around with HIP applications. I'd like to share a library my team has been working on called Orochi https://github.com/GPUOpen-LibrariesAndSDKs/Orochi It handles runtime linking of both nvcuda.dll and amdhip64.dll dynamically. This could be used as part of a wine add-on. Cheers, Aaryaman On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 4:39 PM Alois Schlögl <alois.schloegl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Am 11/16/22 um 02:21 schrieb Alex Henrie: > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 9:13 AM Alois Schlögl <alois.schloegl(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I'd like suggesting to merge the 17 patches from > >> wine-staging/patches/nvcuda-CUDA_Support patches into upstream wine > > In my opinion, CUDA for Wine would make the most sense as some kind of > > downloadable add-on (maybe something akin to Wine Mono). But I never > > use CUDA, so it would be up to someone else to make that happen. > > > > -Alex > > [1] seems to suggest that this is not possible because cuda is a > "low-level library", and because of that > "...You cant install some windows driver in wine and expect this to > work. ...". > > Therefore, adding the nvcuda patches in upstream wine seems to be the > proper approach. > > - Alois > > > [1] https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52528#c4 > > >

Nov. 16, 2022

Re: Cuda Applications on Wine - suggesting to merge wine-staging/patches/nvcuda-CUDA_Support patches into upstream wine.

by Alois Schlögl

Am 11/16/22 um 02:21 schrieb Alex Henrie: > On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 9:13 AM Alois Schlögl <alois.schloegl(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I'd like suggesting to merge the 17 patches from >> wine-staging/patches/nvcuda-CUDA_Support patches into upstream wine > In my opinion, CUDA for Wine would make the most sense as some kind of > downloadable add-on (maybe something akin to Wine Mono). But I never > use CUDA, so it would be up to someone else to make that happen. > > -Alex [1] seems to suggest that this is not possible because cuda is a "low-level library", and because of that "...You cant install some windows driver in wine and expect this to work. ...". Therefore, adding the nvcuda patches in upstream wine seems to be the proper approach. - Alois [1] https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52528#c4

Nov. 16, 2022

Re: Cuda Applications on Wine - suggesting to merge wine-staging/patches/nvcuda-CUDA_Support patches into upstream wine.

by Alex Henrie

On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 9:13 AM Alois Schlögl <alois.schloegl(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I'd like suggesting to merge the 17 patches from > wine-staging/patches/nvcuda-CUDA_Support patches into upstream wine In my opinion, CUDA for Wine would make the most sense as some kind of downloadable add-on (maybe something akin to Wine Mono). But I never use CUDA, so it would be up to someone else to make that happen. -Alex

Nov. 16, 2022

Wine 8.0 code freeze

by Alexandre Julliard

Folks, With the end of the year approaching, it will soon be time to start the code freeze towards Wine 8.0. My plan is to have another two development releases, and start code freeze with Wine 7.23, on December 9. So if there are things that you want in 8.0, you have another 4 weeks to get them upstreamed... -- Alexandre Julliard julliard(a)winehq.org

Nov. 14, 2022

Re: Wine staging 7.21 release

by Zebediah Figura

On 11/13/22 05:12, Sven Baars wrote: > On 13-11-2022 05:20, Alistair Leslie-Hughes wrote: >> >> Binary packages for various distributions will be available from: >> https://www.winehq.org/download >> >> Summary since last release >> * Rebased to current wine 7.21 (495 patches are applied to wine vanilla) > > Congrats on finally reaching fewer than 500 patches! 🥳 > > Sadly we haven't *really* hit that number yet :-( We have 495 patches applied, but if you count disabled ones, it's actually 579. (And I think it's only correct to count disabled ones, since those are our responsibility too.)

Nov. 13, 2022

Re: Wine staging 7.21 release

by Sven Baars

On 13-11-2022 05:20, Alistair Leslie-Hughes wrote: > > Binary packages for various distributions will be available from: > https://www.winehq.org/download > > Summary since last release > * Rebased to current wine 7.21 (495 patches are applied to wine vanilla) Congrats on finally reaching fewer than 500 patches! 🥳

Nov. 13, 2022

Wine staging 7.21 release

by Alistair Leslie-Hughes

Binary packages for various distributions will be available from: https://www.winehq.org/download Summary since last release * Rebased to current wine 7.21 (495 patches are applied to wine vanilla) Upstreamed (Either directly from staging or fixed with a similar patch). * mshtml: Add IHTMLLocation::hash property's getter implementation. * uxtheme: Protect CloseThemeData() from invalid input. * user32/tests: Add some tests to see when MessageBox gains WS_EX_TOPMOST style. * user32: MessageBox should be topmost when MB_SYSTEMMODAL style is set. Added: * None Updated: * eventfd_synchronization * ntdll-Syscall_Emulation * ntdll-ForceBottomUpAlloc Where can you help * Run Steam/Battle.net/GOG/UPlay/Epic * Test your favorite game. * Test your favorite applications. * Improve staging patches and get them accepted upstream. * Suggest patches to be included in staging. As always, if you find a bug, please report it via https://bugs.winehq.org Best Regards Alistair.

Nov. 13, 2022

Cuda Applications on Wine - suggesting to merge wine-staging/patches/nvcuda-CUDA_Support patches into upstream wine.

by Alois Schlögl

I'd like suggesting to merge the 17 patches from wine-staging/patches/nvcuda-CUDA_Support patches into upstream wine for the following reasons: Currently Cuda applications for Windows do not run in native Wine. Such an application is Warpem (available for Windows only), and CUDA-Z for Windows. I assume there are other applications as well. This could be fixed by pulling in the 17 patches wine-staging/patches/nvcuda-CUDA_Support. Possible disadvantages: - build dependency to cuda - some distros might not want to have a build dependency on cuda.h That's the choice of the package manager, but this should be endorsed and recommended for the above reason. - run-time dependency on cuda wine does not have a runtime dependency on cuda (probably due to dynamic linking) e.g. cuda-z can be started under wine, and stops gracefully with a message the cuda is not available. - number of APIs to maintain is currently done anyway (by the wine-staging team) From a the perspective of some application, Cuda is part of the operating system should be provided by the platform (Wine in our case). Overall, it seems merging the nvcuda-CUDA_Support into upstream Wine are the right thing to do. Best regards, Alois

Nov. 12, 2022