January 2024 - Wine-Devel - list.winehq.org

Re: 9.0 release notes, please review

by Gabriel Ivăncescu

On 17/01/2024 16:57, Hans Leidekker wrote: > On Wed, 2024-01-17 at 16:17 +0200, Gabriel Ivăncescu wrote: >> Not being use-able in pure 32-bit Wine sounds pretty bad, I hope it >> doesn't become a trend. > > I don't believee there are many users stuck on pure 32-bit Wine that also need > winscard support. Note that it was never usable when pure 32-bit Wine was still > the norm. Adding support isn't free unfortunately and I don't think that passing > the tests is sufficient reason to pay that cost. I'd rather wait and see if > there's real interest. > > > > Yeah, I was thinking along the lines of it becoming a "trend" for other areas, which was more worrying. For winscard by itself it's not.

Jan. 17, 2024

Re: 9.0 release notes, please review

by Hans Leidekker

On Wed, 2024-01-17 at 16:17 +0200, Gabriel Ivăncescu wrote: > On 17/01/2024 01:31, Francois Gouget wrote: > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2024, Hans Leidekker wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2024-01-16 at 18:24 +0100, Francois Gouget wrote: > > > > > - Smart cards are supported in the Winscard dll, using the Unix > > > > > PSCSlite library. > > > > > > > > It should probably be noted that this is not supported for 32-bit > > > > Windows applications despite Wine providing a 32-bit winscard.dll. > > > > > > It is supported for 32-bit applications but currently only in the new > > > Wow64 setup. > > > > And since no one will use that mode the release notes should note that > > this is not supported in pure 32-bit Wine and for 32-bit applications > > running in the default old WoW64 mode that every Linux distribution will > > ship. Arch is already offering new-style wow64 packages and macOS users have no choice. > Not being use-able in pure 32-bit Wine sounds pretty bad, I hope it > doesn't become a trend. I don't believee there are many users stuck on pure 32-bit Wine that also need winscard support. Note that it was never usable when pure 32-bit Wine was still the norm. Adding support isn't free unfortunately and I don't think that passing the tests is sufficient reason to pay that cost. I'd rather wait and see if there's real interest.

Jan. 17, 2024

Re: 9.0 release notes, please review

by Gabriel Ivăncescu

On 17/01/2024 01:31, Francois Gouget wrote: > On Tue, 16 Jan 2024, Hans Leidekker wrote: > >> On Tue, 2024-01-16 at 18:24 +0100, Francois Gouget wrote: >>>> - Smart cards are supported in the Winscard dll, using the Unix >>>> PSCSlite library. >>> >>> It should probably be noted that this is not supported for 32-bit >>> Windows applications despite Wine providing a 32-bit winscard.dll. >> >> It is supported for 32-bit applications but currently only in the new >> Wow64 setup. > > And since no one will use that mode the release notes should note that > this is not supported in pure 32-bit Wine and for 32-bit applications > running in the default old WoW64 mode that every Linux distribution will > ship. > > > > > Not being use-able in pure 32-bit Wine sounds pretty bad, I hope it doesn't become a trend.

Jan. 17, 2024

Re: 9.0 release notes, please review

by Francois Gouget

On Tue, 16 Jan 2024, Hans Leidekker wrote: > On Tue, 2024-01-16 at 18:24 +0100, Francois Gouget wrote: > > > - Smart cards are supported in the Winscard dll, using the Unix > > > PSCSlite library. > > > > It should probably be noted that this is not supported for 32-bit > > Windows applications despite Wine providing a 32-bit winscard.dll. > > It is supported for 32-bit applications but currently only in the new > Wow64 setup. And since no one will use that mode the release notes should note that this is not supported in pure 32-bit Wine and for 32-bit applications running in the default old WoW64 mode that every Linux distribution will ship. -- Francois Gouget <fgouget(a)free.fr> http://fgouget.free.fr/ All generalizations are false, including this one. -- Mark Twain

Jan. 16, 2024

Wine staging 9.0 release

by Alistair Leslie-Hughes

Binary packages for various distributions will be available from: https://www.winehq.org/download Summary since last release * Rebased to current wine 9.0 (505 patches are applied to wine vanilla) Upstreamed (Either directly from staging or fixed with a similar patch). * None Added: * None Updated: * vkd3d-latest Where can you help * Run Steam/Battle.net/GOG/UPlay/Epic * Test your favorite game. * Test your favorite applications. * Improve staging patches and get them accepted upstream. * Suggest patches to be included in staging. As always, if you find a bug, please report it via https://bugs.winehq.org Best Regards Alistair.

Jan. 16, 2024

Re: 9.0 release notes, please review

by Elizabeth Figura

On Tuesday, 16 January 2024 14:07:46 CST Hans Leidekker wrote: > On Tue, 2024-01-16 at 11:51 -0600, Elizabeth Figura wrote: > > > > Also missing are thunks for opencl, winscard, and odbc32, and capi2032. I > > suppose these were deemed not worth mentioning? > > winscard does have wow64 thunks. Right, sorry. I mixed it up with the opposite problem where it doesn't support old wow64.

Jan. 16, 2024

Re: 9.0 release notes, please review

by Hans Leidekker

On Tue, 2024-01-16 at 11:51 -0600, Elizabeth Figura wrote: > > Also missing are thunks for opencl, winscard, and odbc32, and capi2032. I > suppose these were deemed not worth mentioning? winscard does have wow64 thunks.

Jan. 16, 2024

Re: 9.0 release notes, please review

by Hans Leidekker

On Tue, 2024-01-16 at 18:24 +0100, Francois Gouget wrote: > > - Smart cards are supported in the Winscard dll, using the Unix > > PSCSlite library. > > It should probably be noted that this is not supported for 32-bit > Windows applications despite Wine providing a 32-bit winscard.dll. It is supported for 32-bit applications but currently only in the new Wow64 setup.

Jan. 16, 2024

Re: 9.0 release notes, please review

by Dean Greer

> - Reduced OpenGL performance on Linux due to extra buffer copies. The reduced performance also affects macOS, possibly affects all platforms. On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 1:14 PM Elizabeth Figura <zfigura(a)codeweavers.com> wrote: > > - The new WoW64 mode is not yet enabled by default. It can be enabled by > passing > > the `--enable-archs=i386,x86_64` option to configure. This is expected > to > work > > for most applications, but there are still some limitations, in > particular: > > - Lack of support for 16-bit code. > > - Reduced OpenGL performance on Linux due to extra buffer copies. > > It's not just severely reduced performance; it also prevents us from > exposing > ARB_buffer_storage entirely, which in turn means we can't support 4.4 (and > I > know there are applications that depend on that). > > Also missing are thunks for opencl, winscard, and odbc32, and capi2032. I > suppose these were deemed not worth mentioning? > > > - The Indeo IV50 codec is implemented. > > Specifically, the Video for Windows decoder. [IV50 support was already > available through winegstreamer when using other APIs.] > > > - Direct Input action maps are implemented, improving compatibility with > many > > "DirectInput" > > > > >

Jan. 16, 2024

Re: 9.0 release notes, please review

by Elizabeth Figura

> - The new WoW64 mode is not yet enabled by default. It can be enabled by passing > the `--enable-archs=i386,x86_64` option to configure. This is expected to work > for most applications, but there are still some limitations, in particular: > - Lack of support for 16-bit code. > - Reduced OpenGL performance on Linux due to extra buffer copies. It's not just severely reduced performance; it also prevents us from exposing ARB_buffer_storage entirely, which in turn means we can't support 4.4 (and I know there are applications that depend on that). Also missing are thunks for opencl, winscard, and odbc32, and capi2032. I suppose these were deemed not worth mentioning? > - The Indeo IV50 codec is implemented. Specifically, the Video for Windows decoder. [IV50 support was already available through winegstreamer when using other APIs.] > - Direct Input action maps are implemented, improving compatibility with many "DirectInput"

Jan. 16, 2024